[gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
Hello, We currently have values like the following: RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 I find it confusing, and I would like to propose to keep the same style for all the above values. I personally prefer the ruby one. Keep in mind that if the relevant teams decide

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:30:07 +0100 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, We currently have values like the following: RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 I find it confusing, and I would like to propose to keep the same style for all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 15:30 +0100, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: Hello, We currently have values like the following: RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 I find it confusing, and I would like to propose to keep the same style for all the above values. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/11/2012 07:46, Brian Dolbec wrote: For ruby19, split in the middle to get 1.9, but what about 110, is it 11.0 or 1.10. Okay stop. There's no 1.10. There's 2.0 that's being developed for a long time. And we're not going to change our scheme just because of some theoretical corner

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Peter Stuge
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 24/11/2012 07:46, Brian Dolbec wrote: For ruby19, split in the middle to get 1.9, but what about 110, is it 11.0 or 1.10. Okay stop. There's no 1.10. There's 2.0 that's being developed for a long time. And we're not going to change our scheme just

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/11/2012 10:19, Peter Stuge wrote: Diego, remember the original point. It is obvious that a common syntax is more coherent and thus easier for the world to understand. Having that would be a good thing. It is also obvious that the ruby syntax is problematic in the general case. And the

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
24.11.12 19:19, Peter Stuge написав(ла): Look at the following: PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 Note the redundancy, which I'm not quite sure why we have at all.. Why not also eliminate the language name in one of the two places; either in the variable

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 24/11/2012 10:19, Peter Stuge wrote: Diego, remember the original point. It is obvious that a common syntax is more coherent and thus easier for the world to understand. Having that would be a good thing. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 08:07 -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 24/11/2012 07:46, Brian Dolbec wrote: For ruby19, split in the middle to get 1.9, but what about 110, is it 11.0 or 1.10. Okay stop. There's no 1.10. There's 2.0 that's being developed for a long time. And we're

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/11/2012 10:40, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: What will you do with PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 pypy1_9 jython2_5 then? That's another good point. And since Ruby has been brought up before, let's not forget that we're not really slotting just for the sake of it most of the time. JRuby

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Peter Stuge
Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: PHP_TARGETS=5.3 5.4 RUBY_TARGETS=1.9 PYTHON_TARGETS=2.7 But maybe it would be too problematic? What will you do with PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 pypy1_9 jython2_5 then? That's an excellent point. Thanks! Thinking out loud another round: _TARGETS is

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Peter Stuge
Peter Stuge wrote: Thinking out loud another round: _TARGETS is an interface by Gentoo, so maybe it would not be such a bad idea to use existing Gentoo identifiers there, ie. (a subset of?) PMS version specifications. Including the package name. This would also make the UX change smaller, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Ole Markus With
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/11/12 19:46, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 24/11/2012 10:19, Peter Stuge wrote: Diego, remember the original point. It is obvious that a common syntax is more

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2012-11-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
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2012-11-24 Thread James Cloos
The percentage of bogosity is nicely small, but there are a couple in there which shouldn't be dropped. # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (24 Nov 2012) # Lots of bug report, use version from science overlay as pointed # in bug #339364#c3 . Removal in a month sci-mathematics/scilab The version

[gentoo-dev] Re: proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-24 Thread Duncan
Peter Stuge posted on Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:20:27 +0100 as excerpted: Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: PHP_TARGETS=5.3 5.4 RUBY_TARGETS=1.9 PYTHON_TARGETS=2.7 But maybe it would be too problematic? What will you do with PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 pypy1_9 jython2_5 then? That's an

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-office/lyx: lyx-2.0.5.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-11-24 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/23/12 21:17, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:45:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/20/12 21:57, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:10:51 + (UTC) Patrick Lauer (patrick) patr...@gentoo.org wrote: patrick 12/11/16 09:10:51

Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change?

2012-11-24 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/23/12 22:32, Thomas Sachau wrote: Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: On 22/11/12 11:22 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and there

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2012-11-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 24-11-2012 a las 18:47 -0500, James Cloos escribió: The percentage of bogosity is nicely small, but there are a couple in there which shouldn't be dropped. # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (24 Nov 2012) # Lots of bug report, use version from science overlay as pointed # in bug

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2012-11-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 25-11-2012 a las 08:03 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: [...] Much worse, however, is this insanity: # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (24 Nov 2012) # Fail to start due missing fonts (bugs 395353, 402713, 429234). # Removal in a month. x11-misc/bbdate x11-misc/bbweather