[gentoo-dev] Re: proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 24/11/12, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: No. Being consistently stupid is not a good reason to be consistent. Stop being fallacious, please. And since as I said the RUBY_TARGETS interface is designed to be _usable by Ruby developers_, being consistent and breaking that, is not something I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread hasufell
On 11/26/2012 12:40 AM, Denis M. (Phr33d0m) wrote: Hello, I'd have to mention, as HexChat is a fork from XChat it strictly depends on gtk+-2 as well. So removing gtk+-2* will make HexChat unusuable (at least the GUI). Also there are no plans on porting it to anything like gtk+-3 (or Qt (I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: I also planned to release a news through the portage news system as soon as I lastrite xchat so people know how to move over to

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:40 -0500 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: I also planned to release a news through the portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:40 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: I also planned to

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:07:53 -0500 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:40 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Mike Frysinger

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: xchat hexchat are different packages. It's a bit like pretending that the discontinuation and fork didn't ever happen, and the packages are equivalent (which they are not, as have been already pointed out). they're about as equivalent as

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: along those lines, a news entry is probably not even necessary. So, users will just suddenly have their binary change names, and will need to manually move config files and update logrotate.d files (if in use), and the only

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: prosody + lua deps

2012-11-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
I'd like to retire from these sometime soon: dev-lua/lua-zlib: no other maintainers/herd dev-lua/luadbi: no other maintainers/herd dev-lua/luaevent: blueness, rafaelmartins dev-lua/luaexpat: rafaelmartins dev-lua/luasec: rafaelmartins net-im/prosody: klausman, rafaelmartins AFAICT Rafael isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/26/2012 01:16 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: along those lines, a news entry is probably not even necessary. So, users will just suddenly have their binary change names, and will need to manually move config files and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proposal for consistency between {RUBY,PYTHON,PHP}_TARGETS

2012-11-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/11/2012 00:20, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The request is for Gentoo administration. So, talking about developers of a language is not the question. Gentoo administration? What on earth would that be? I am a ruby developer and having ruby18 or ruby_1_8 is not much a problem. There are a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: open season on robbat2's packages

2012-11-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:22 Fri 23 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and there is no herd listed (but their might be other maintainers): I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs: prosody + lua deps

2012-11-26 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to retire from these sometime soon: dev-lua/lua-zlib: no other maintainers/herd dev-lua/luadbi: no other maintainers/herd dev-lua/luaevent: blueness, rafaelmartins dev-lua/luaexpat: rafaelmartins

[gentoo-dev] Some packages up for grabs

2012-11-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
Swegener recently moved away from the following packages: app-admin/eselect-pinentry app-crypt/pinentry Thanks for taking care of them if you want signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:33:15AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote the inability to make users read the package.mask message explaining the situation is the only valid point in your e-mail. along those lines, a news entry is probably not even necessary. Howsabout following the same procedure

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/11/2012 10:17, Walter Dnes wrote: Howsabout following the same procedure as when xpdf was dropped? I vaguely remember emerge --update --deep world stopping with a message that xpdf was being dropped, and also a few alternatives were suggested in the message. That's the p.maks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some packages up for grabs

2012-11-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 26-11-2012 a las 18:58 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: Swegener recently moved away from the following packages: app-admin/eselect-pinentry app-crypt/pinentry Thanks for taking care of them if you want And: net-dns/avahi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some packages up for grabs

2012-11-26 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/26/2012 01:52 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 26-11-2012 a las 18:58 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: Swegener recently moved away from the following packages: app-admin/eselect-pinentry app-crypt/pinentry Thanks for taking care of them if you want And: net-dns/avahi This one is interesting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't heard back from them, maybe you can ask them what's up. This has been setup (with Donnie's help): https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo I've claimed 15 of the projects on there that I could easily find, analysis on

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:17:13 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Maybe. On the other hand, the udev-systemd switch was performed upstream which makes it a valid candidate for package move. No, it's not a valid candidate for a package move if the destination package already exists. A

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: along those lines, a news entry is probably not even necessary. So, users will just move config in an elog? Oh, and they don't even use. see what happens when you delete context ? it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Justin
On 26.11.2012 21:58, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't heard back from them, maybe you can ask them what's up. This has been setup (with Donnie's help): https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo I've claimed 15 of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-26 Thread W. Trevor King
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 09:58:32PM +0100, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo I'm not a dev, and I haven't really been following this thread, but all the other organization summaries start out with something like Organization X is … not In order to sustain the current

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:30 PM, W. Trevor King wk...@tremily.us wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 09:58:32PM +0100, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo I'm not a dev, and I haven't really been following this thread, but all the other organization summaries start out with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Yeah, that was my thought as well. The text was lifted from our charter, which was apparently written from a problem/solution standpoint rather than something that would be less time-bound. It doesn't really make sense

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Tightly-coupled core distro

2012-11-26 Thread Steven J. Long
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52:46AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Debian / Ubuntu have a tool that basically does this. Its update-initramfs. I believe it is called from..the postinst of packages that are supposed to be