On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:47:10 +0100
Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Andreas K. Huettel
dilfri...@gentoo.orgwrote:
I thought -O0 was generally discouraged, even for debugging?!
As Michał said, it all depends on what you want to debug. I
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:33:48 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
What can we do to improve this? I'm not really happy to have LLVM
ebuild analyze CFLAGS to set proper space constraints. Maybe we should
make check-reqs-r1 automatically bump the constraints by some
statistical multiplier
Probably not a big deal, but there is a “~/.netrc” file which holds
usernames and password for various services (some FTP clients use it,
maybe others).
Chris
https://github.com/kr/netrc
https://metacpan.org/module/Net::Netrc
^ too much evidence of prior work
And worse, Net::Netrc is
On 5 August 2013 17:33, Christopher Head ch...@chead.ca wrote:
Probably not a big deal, but there is a “~/.netrc” file which holds
usernames and password for various services (some FTP clients use it,
maybe others).
If you want a suggestion that imbues all the things we want to imbue,
and
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Neither of which are correct, since dev-libs/openssl has SLOT=0 and
SLOT=0.9.8 and virtual/jpeg has SLOT=0 and SLOT=62.
Need to pull in the SLOT that installs headers:
Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 12:33:45
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Neither of which are correct, since dev-libs/openssl has SLOT=0 and
SLOT=0.9.8 and
Picked random mail from this thread.
So, I've seen many people raising intrest in keeping IUSE=static in
cryptsetup and lvm2 but I haven't really seen anyone working on it yet,
except _AxS_ committed one patch but that isn't enough.
Take eg. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472692#c4
On 08/05/2013 11:49 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 12:33:45
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Neither of which are correct, since
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:19:16 +0200
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
I find it a bit silly to require discussing global useflags on dev-ML.
The purpose of the discussion is to come up with a description that is general
enough to apply to most ebuilds that use that flag. It's a throwback to
On 5/08/2013 19:33, Samuli Suominen wrote:
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Is there any reason for the subslot operator being specified at all? I
don't see those packages defining any subslots.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:19:16 +0200
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
I find it a bit silly to require discussing global useflags on dev-ML.
The purpose of the discussion is to come up with a description that is general
On 08/05/2013 01:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
It isn't a bad idea to still post on -dev. Maintainers should be
removing the local definitions, and just because a decision seems like
the obviously-correct one doesn't mean that it is.
Follow-up question: Should _I_ remove the identical local
On 08/05/2013 01:10 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
On 08/05/2013 01:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
It isn't a bad idea to still post on -dev. Maintainers should be
removing the local definitions, and just because a decision seems like
the obviously-correct one doesn't mean that it is.
Follow-up
Currently, USE flag descriptions are a mix of imperative (Enable)
and indicative (Enables) forms, the former occuring more often:
Enable : Enables = 2143 : 408
Add : Adds = 525 : 341
Build : Builds = 833 : 27
Use : Uses = 619 : 11
Install : Installs =
On 05/08/13 13:56, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 19:33, Samuli Suominen wrote:
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Is there any reason for the subslot operator being specified at all? I
don't see those
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote:
You don't need to see it, because portage sets implicit subslot /0
in EAPI=5 so it's there, even if you don't see it.
Shouldn't the implicit sub-slot be equal to the regular slot?
Ulrich
On Aug 5, 2013 8:06 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote:
You don't need to see it, because portage sets implicit subslot /0
in EAPI=5 so it's there, even if you don't see it.
Shouldn't the implicit sub-slot be equal to the regular slot?
No package has the following flags in IUSE, so I'll remove them in a
few days from now:
kdeprefix - Makes a KDE prefixed install into /usr/kde/${SLOT} if enabled or
into /usr (FHS compatible) otherwise
nocxx - Old flag -- USE=cxx from now on
Ulrich
On 5/08/2013 21:58, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/08/13 13:56, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 19:33, Samuli Suominen wrote:
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
Is there any reason for the subslot operator
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
Even though the subslot is implicit, is that any reason to still use the
operator? We don't know what the maintainer's future intentions for the
subslot will be.
For example, we caused many useless rebuilds with
On 05/08/13 18:00, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 21:58, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/08/13 13:56, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 19:33, Samuli Suominen wrote:
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies like:
dev-libs/openssl:=
virtual/jpeg:=
On 6/08/2013 01:06, Samuli Suominen wrote:
The plan is to change SLOT of virtual/jpeg from 0 to eg. 0/1 after
next SONAME change in the default of the virtual, so it's useful to have
everything depend on virtual/jpeg:0= ready, to get the benefits of the
subslot.
Does that mean that anyone that
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:06:33 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
The plan is to change SLOT of virtual/jpeg from 0 to eg. 0/1
after next SONAME change in the default of the virtual, so it's
useful to have everything depend on virtual/jpeg:0= ready, to get the
benefits of the
[snip]
:p I'm actually thinking netrc if Robin is ok with it. William
replaying to a random message in the tree
Not going to suggest a name but if has to be something for general
consumption, it should avoid the gentoo inside the name
just my 0.2¢
On 6/08/2013 01:07, Rich Freeman wrote:
I suspect most maintainers would rather upgrade their package once to
EAPI5 and not keep checking back every month to see if there is a new
opportunity to add another slot operator dep. If maintainers don't
add them up-front even with the deps don't
Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 11:50:38
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:06:33 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
The plan is to change SLOT of virtual/jpeg from 0 to eg. 0/1
after next SONAME change in the default of the virtual, so it's
Am Montag, 5. August 2013, 15:39:48 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
No package has the following flags in IUSE, so I'll remove them in a
few days from now:
kdeprefix - Makes a KDE prefixed install into /usr/kde/${SLOT} if
enabled or into /usr (FHS compatible) otherwise
kdeprefix is long gone,
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:03:28 +1000
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
How often does this situation even come up? If 9/10 times the
libraries are set up as maintainers expect them to be, it is
probably better to deal with the odd unnecessary rebuild until
somebody spots it,
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:10:46 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 11:50:38
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:06:33 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
The plan is to change SLOT of virtual/jpeg from 0 to
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:13:49 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:03:28 +1000
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
How often does this situation even come up? If 9/10 times the
libraries are set up as maintainers expect them to be, it
On 6/08/2013 02:13, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:03:28 +1000
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
How often does this situation even come up? If 9/10 times the
libraries are set up as maintainers expect them to be, it is
probably better to deal with the odd
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:22:32 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:13:49 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:03:28 +1000
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
How often does this situation even come up?
Am Montag, 5. August 2013, 18:22:32 schrieb Alexis Ballier:
'horrible breakage' is mitigated by preserve-libs and running
@preserved-rebuild as soon as possible has the same end result avoiding
useless rebuilds.
No it is not and does not.
[Providing roughly the same information depth in my
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:36:49 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:22:32 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:13:49 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:03:28 +1000
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:37:29 +0200
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Montag, 5. August 2013, 18:22:32 schrieb Alexis Ballier:
'horrible breakage' is mitigated by preserve-libs and running
@preserved-rebuild as soon as possible has the same end result
avoiding useless
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:10:46 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
We can simply have multiple virtual versions, each depending
on the proper jpeg jpeg-turbo versions.
you can do it that way, yes.
what will
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Not really. There's a tradeoff between dependencies that are
occasionally too strict, and dependencies that are horribly
complicated (see subslot dictionaries).
having a way to express 'my subslot is the one of my
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:54 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Not really. There's a tradeoff between dependencies that are
occasionally too strict, and dependencies that are horribly
On 05/08/13 18:06, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/08/13 18:00, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 21:58, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/08/13 13:56, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 5/08/2013 19:33, Samuli Suominen wrote:
This is a friendly reminder.
I've found the tree again to have dependencies
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:58:49 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Unfortunately things that don't seem to be complicated sometimes
are complicated. We haven't established whether that's the case
here. In particular, we don't have any notion of providers
currently,
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
okay, maybe this plan sucks as some have suggested in later posts in this
thread.
however the main point from first post stands, don't at least do
virtual/jpeg:= deps, use at least virtual/jpeg:0 or virtual/jpeg:0=
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for
naming ideas.
I'm most certainly not planning to get rid of the package whatsoever,
many
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 22:09:54 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Naming goals:
- Should describe what it does
- Does NOT have a name conflict as verified by Google.
- Does NOT imply OpenRC.
- Implying Gentoo is fine, as it's where the package comes from.
- Should drop 'old'
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On 08/06/2013 12:09 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a
single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas
for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 19:13:06 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
and
it's not clear such a concept makes sense as-is. We haven't worked
out what happens in a || ( a b !c ) case where a, b and c are all
installed, for example.
subslot = concatenation of the
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote
Naming goals:
- Should describe what it does
- Does NOT have a name conflict as verified by Google.
- Does NOT imply OpenRC.
- Implying Gentoo is fine, as it's where the package comes from.
- Should drop 'old'
Some
On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
- netrc (conflicts)
Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
On 08/05/2013 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
- netrc (conflicts)
Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
Or, duh, networkrc.
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