Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 15-11-2013 a las 23:39 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a distro: 1:

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to obsolete this python-exec news fix the issue automatically for users

2013-11-16 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Robin H Johnson wrote: Add this line to the dev-lang/python-exec ebuilds: PDEPEND==dev-python/python-exec-1:$SLOT This looks wrong to me. On a newly installed system, currrently only dev-lang/python-exec:2 would be installed. Adding above PDEPEND would unnecessarily

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to obsolete this python-exec news fix the issue automatically for users

2013-11-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:11:47 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Robin H Johnson wrote: Add this line to the dev-lang/python-exec ebuilds: PDEPEND==dev-python/python-exec-1:$SLOT This looks wrong to me. On a newly installed system, currrently only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: El vie, 15-11-2013 a las 23:39 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a

[gentoo-dev] RFC: New Project: Bug Cleaners

2013-11-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
Hello This is a request for comments on a new project: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Bug_Cleaners The Gentoo Bug Cleaners project aims to clean up the oldest bugs in Bugzilla. Our goal is twofold, the main purpose of this project is to close bugs on Bugzilla that do no longer apply due to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Markos Chandras
On 11/16/2013 10:27 AM, Tom Wijsman (tomwij) wrote: tomwij 13/11/16 10:27:43 Added:index.xml Log: Initial project directory for the Bug Cleaners project. Revision ChangesPath 1.1 xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners/index.xml file :

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:29:20 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/16/2013 10:27 AM, Tom Wijsman (tomwij) wrote: tomwij 13/11/16 10:27:43 Added:index.xml Log: Initial project directory for the Bug Cleaners project. Revision Changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2013/11/16 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:29:20 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: I think this is unnecessary. Infra requested all new projects to be in the Wiki so I don't think that you are supposed to add a proj/en page anymore just so you can

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: 3: multilib.eclass This is my preferred solution However, it has some serious drawbacks; most importantly: It implies that the same USE-flags must be used for the native and 32-bit variant. This is really a severe restriction since the motivation for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 15. November 2013, 21:18:03 schrieb Martin Vaeth: If this is not very hard to implement in portage, I would strongly vote to remove this implicit connection: Not really doable since this is explicitly defined as such in EAPI=5 PMS. Retroactively changing PMS is probably not a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-11-16, o godz. 12:39:37 Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de napisał(a): Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: 3: multilib.eclass This is my preferred solution However, it has some serious drawbacks; most importantly: It implies that the same USE-flags must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 15. November 2013, 21:18:03 schrieb Martin Vaeth: Probably a lot of the confusion could be avoided if /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords would not implicitly unmask useflags. How would you handle the case if a package has only one version in portage and that one is stable?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-11-16, o godz. 13:50:11 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Am Freitag, 15. November 2013, 21:18:03 schrieb Martin Vaeth: Probably a lot of the confusion could be avoided if /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords would not implicitly unmask useflags. How would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:29:20 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: I think this is unnecessary. Infra requested all new projects to be in the Wiki so I don't think that you are supposed to add a proj/en page anymore just so you can redirect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:40:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:29:20 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: I think this is unnecessary. Infra requested all new projects to be in the Wiki so I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to obsolete this python-exec news fix the issue automatically for users

2013-11-16 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/16/2013 04:11 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Robin H Johnson wrote: Add this line to the dev-lang/python-exec ebuilds: PDEPEND==dev-python/python-exec-1:$SLOT This looks wrong to me. On a newly installed system, currrently only dev-lang/python-exec:2 would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New Project: Bug Cleaners

2013-11-16 Thread Damien Levac
+1 I was an user very interested by the bug day event, but the timing was never right. A permanent effort where everyone can help whenever they can seems more interesting. The only thing needed then is documentation on exactly what can be done by users with varying skills. Damien On 11/16/2013

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Kent Fredric
On 17 November 2013 01:39, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: This is really a severe restriction since the motivation for installation can be very different for these variants. For instance, for a native ffmpeg the user might want support for a lot of codecs/devices while

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Duncan
Martin Vaeth posted on Sat, 16 Nov 2013 12:39:37 + as excerpted: A cleaner solution would somehow treat the 32bit and 64bit variant like separate packages, each having its own set of USE-Flags, and also the possibility to rebuild one without rebuilding the other. AFAIK multilib-portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-11-17, o godz. 09:24:26 Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com napisał(a): On 17 November 2013 01:39, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: This is really a severe restriction since the motivation for installation can be very different for these variants. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Kent Fredric
On 17 November 2013 10:52, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Unless I'm misunderstanding something, you are not correct. You can surely do something like: RDEPEND=abi_x86_32? ( dev-libs/c[abi_x86_32(-)] ) It was more you cant do IUSE=foo without doing RDEPEND= abi_x86_32? ( foo ? (