Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/23/2015 01:48 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him): 1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. The Python script can be downloaded and executed using the following command: $ wget -O -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread hasufell
Anthony G. Basile: On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a libressl USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling SUBSLOTs impossible.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. The Python script can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 00:18:50 Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net napisał(a): Michał Górny posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:40:17 +0100 as excerpted: Display-If-Keyword: amd64 ~amd64 x86 ~x86 The USE flags corresponding to intruction sets and other features specific to the x86 architecture

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 16:16:25 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 05:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Even `wget --no-check-certificate` would be a big improvement. ...because? You rule out some 13-year-olds in coffee shops as attackers. I overstated -- since the user isn't replying with any data, it's not a big improvement, but it's still a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: But that's not the biggest problem with the wget thing: the first time someone runs this it's going to fail. $ wget -O - dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py | python ... Unable to determine PORTDIR, please set it before calling

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: The problem I see now is that people will have a hard time to actually switch, because unlike gnutls we cannot have openssl and libressl be installed at the same time. I personally find it annoying when people fork

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 06:12 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. It can be found in app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags package: I think you accidentally a word here, but otherwise it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:22:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. The Python script can be downloaded and executed using the following command: $ wget

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-24, o godz. 00:59:24 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:22:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 17:27:16 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 05:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Even `wget --no-check-certificate` would be a big improvement. ...because? You rule out some 13-year-olds in coffee shops as attackers. I overstated --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 05:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test and stabilize it. I do. It seems like a lot of work, but we can test and quick-stable it. Thank you. If what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Moving CPU flags into USE_EXPAND

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 01:13:08 + (UTC) Duncan wrote: Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:59:23 +0300 as excerpted: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:17:35 -0800 Christopher Head wrote: On January 20, 2015 12:47:03 AM PST, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: So, you're telling me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:16:25 -0500 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:12:15 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. It can be found in app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags package: $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script which generates the correct value from your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test and stabilize it. I think this should be in an ebuild. You mentioned that it's only needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 17:56:49 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 05:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test and stabilize it. I do. It

[gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, Attaching the news item for planned USE=libav introduction. The emphasis on letting users know that they may need to set USE=-libav to get their systems back in working condition. I hope that we've finally agreed on going for variant 1. I was trying to come up with a hybrid possibly-friendly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-24, o godz. 02:29:26 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:12:15 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. It can be found in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-20, o godz. 10:40:17 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Dnia 2015-01-18, o godz. 21:44:05 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Hello, I would like to commit the following flags as cpu_flags_x86_desc. The list combines global USE flags with some local USE

[gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:13:34 +0100 as excerpted: Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 00:18:50 Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net napisał(a): Michał Górny posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:40:17 +0100 [as snipped] So based on this preliminary news item, I decided to get ahead of the game

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Diamond
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:45:34 -0600 Ben Kohler bkoh...@gmail.com wrote: I think this should be in an ebuild. You mentioned that it's only needed ONCE, but it's needed ONCE for everytime one install gentoos, along the same lines as mirrorselect. A couple of years from now, do we want users

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
But they don't. See my two blog posts on the matter. ABI compatibility is explicitly not. What they care about. On 23 Jan 2015 05:56, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him): 1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav (because of ||). The effective deps will

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a libressl USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling SUBSLOTs impossible. If libressl and