Re: [gentoo-dev] Choosing GUI toolkits from multiple choices

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
> I drafted that mentioned USE_EXPAND idea as a means to get some > 'design from the scratch' discussion going and flesh out this way of > potentially doing it (such a USE_EXPAND was idly mentioned at start > by > others as something that was deemed too crazy, but I didn't find any > references).

[gentoo-dev] Choosing GUI toolkits from multiple choices

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 03.06.2016 kell 22:40, kirjutas Daniel Campbell: > You touched on the part that I'm most concerned about: choosing. If > the > 'GUI' USE_EXPAND gets in, do we maintainers check that variable and > if > there's no preference just build whatever? Will we not be expected to >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 03.06.2016 kell 22:40, kirjutas Daniel Campbell: > You touched on the part that I'm most concerned about: choosing. If > the > 'GUI' USE_EXPAND gets in, do we maintainers check that variable and > if > there's no preference just build whatever? As I don't want this thread to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-04 Thread NP-Hardass
On 06/02/2016 05:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Michał Górny wrote: We understand that some people have goals like 'I want Qt everywhere, I hate GTK+ so much I'd rather not be able to do anything than have GTK+ on my system'. We respect them. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 21:17, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > We've still got 5.x stable, but that's because there's a security bug > for PHP every 20 days and it takes 30 days to stabilize an ebuild. > > Here's a status report: > > * We've got the "eselect php..." stuff sorted out already so you can >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 04:03 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> > LOL - that still happens?! > Yeah, at least in the U.S. There was a "PHP 6", but everything went so wrong that they decided to just pretend that the number 6 doesn't exist. > I still see php5 installed as stable everywhere .. so perhaps php7

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:59, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be >> months/years to move everything that's centred on php5 up to php7 if >> that's the way things are going. What happened to php6

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Kristian Fiskerstrand schrieb: Personally I'da thought an ewarning would be sufficient based on the old flag, and perhaps a news item if considered important enough?! as long as it is sufficient time and it notifies ahead of time, and the new use flag can be added to package.use immediately,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be > months/years to move everything that's centred on php5 up to php7 if > that's the way things are going. What happened to php6 ?!? v5 and v7 are mostly compatible, and the few

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:53 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> >> would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use >> flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? >> > > You mean like requiring USE=webp (new) if the user has

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 04/06/16 20:45, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use >> flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? >> > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use > flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? > You mean like requiring USE=webp (new) if the user has USE=vpx (old)? Sounds like a good idea. It's been totally

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:45, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use > flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be months/years to move everything that's centred on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 06/04/2016 09:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >>> potentially .. >>> >> >> I changed them to, >> >> Enable webp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >> potentially .. >> > > I changed them to, > > Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x > Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:39, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >> potentially .. >> > I changed them to, > > Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x > Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x > > Ok

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, > potentially .. > I changed them to, Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 18:14, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 12:29 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> dev-lang/php:vpx - Enable webp suppoprt for GD >> >> ?!?!?!?! Is that a typo? >> > Half and half. The "suppoprt" is obviously a typo, but unfortunately, > PHP uses a bundled copy of GD, so that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 12:29 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > dev-lang/php:vpx - Enable webp suppoprt for GD > > ?!?!?!?! Is that a typo? > Half and half. The "suppoprt" is obviously a typo, but unfortunately, PHP uses a bundled copy of GD, so that isn't. ...and there's more. In php-7.x, they've

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/04/2016 09:29 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 12:45:15PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguy???n wrote >> Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format >> Currently in use by the following packages: > > Out of sheer curiousity... > > grep -i -w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread waltdnes
On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 12:45:15PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguy???n wrote > Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format > Currently in use by the following packages: Out of sheer curiousity... grep -i -w webp /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc ...returns the same list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Raymond Jennings
+2 I don't know how many packages that is but it's WAY over the minimum of 5 advised in the dev handbook On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Davide Pesavento wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > wrote: > > Suggested

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format > Currently in use by the following packages: > > app-text/tesseract:webp - Enable support for webp image format. > dev-games/aseprite:webp -

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format Currently in use by the following packages: app-text/tesseract:webp - Enable support for webp image format. dev-games/aseprite:webp - Enable webp image format support dev-libs/DirectFB:webp - build WebP image provider dev-libs/efl:webp