Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

Let's step back a minute, and consider *WHY* non-developers feel the need to join this list in the first place. Do you remember the acrimony after the decision to not officially support a separate /usr without initramfs? A lot of people who complained on the Gentoo-User list were bluntly told

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

> On Tue, 23 May 2017, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:31:18PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: >> I'd like to request Infra to establish a new mailing list that would >> fill in the gap between our public mailing lists and the gentoo-core >> mailing list. >> >> Name:

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

Hi Michał, > Name: gentoo-dev-internal > > Topic: technical discussions between active Gentoo contributors Basically I object to this proposal. 1. Another layer of hierarchy is not desirable for a non-profit organization like us. 2. Useful discussion are diluted from 1 list into 2 lists.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

Hi all, On 2017-05-23 21:08, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:31:18PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > > > I'd like to request Infra to establish a new mailing list that would > > fill in the gap between our public mailing lists and the gentoo-core > > mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:31:18PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I'd like to request Infra to establish a new mailing list that would > fill in the gap between our public mailing lists and the gentoo-core > mailing list. > > Name: gentoo-dev-internal > > Topic: technical

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

The same asnow with other words?, wouldn it be possible to repost peoples mail in gen-dev?. I mean instead of leting people send mail to gen-int we kidnapped the mail and send it to gen-dev so that all using gen-dev gets the hole conversion, and does only subscribe to gen-int only get to se posts

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

On Tue, 23 May 2017 20:32:03 + Erik Närström wrote: > I'snt the idea of creating a new mailing list to let gentoo-dev be > mesy?, in that case we could simply redirect all non-aproved posts > from gen-int to gen-dev. I mean, messy in the sense you'd have replies,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

I'snt the idea of creating a new mailing list to let gentoo-dev be mesy?, in that case we could simply redirect all non-aproved posts from gen-int to gen-dev. /EKG On 23 May 2017 22:04, "Kent Fredric" wrote: > On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:31:18 +0200 > Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:52:52 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > Is this proposal itself not just a waste of valuable developer time > in moderating, censoring & deciding who is a sheep & who is a goat ? Its not censorship, because censorship is the practice of preventing something

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:31:18 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > - public (open subscription), initially we may optionally copy all > subscribers from gentoo-dev so that they do not miss discussion, What would be the result if somebody replied to a g-dev-internal ML without

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

170523 Michał Górny wrote: > Sadly, it is not uncommon for threads on that mailing list to turn into > trollfests, get deranged or hijacked into completely different topics. > Things are so bad that the mailing list stops serving its purpose. It > involves a number of consequences: As a user,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > A. It gives a wider choice of tools for developers (and privileged > contributors) -- they can choose either the open or restricted mailing > list depending on the type of requested feedback. > > B. The gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

Hi, everyone. I'd like to request Infra to establish a new mailing list that would fill in the gap between our public mailing lists and the gentoo-core mailing list. Name: gentoo-dev-internal Topic: technical discussions between active Gentoo contributors Restrictions: - public (open