Zac Medico wrote:
I'd suggest a special ebuild phase to check for ABI changes, like
the pre_pkg_preinst_abi_check phase suggested here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192319#c20
I guess, that phase would detect ABI change and package manager
would know how to handle it by
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On 07/07/12 07:29 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
Zac Medico wrote:
I'd suggest a special ebuild phase to check for ABI
changes, like the pre_pkg_preinst_abi_check phase
suggested here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192319#c20
I guess,
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
Is it unrealistic to assume that upstream ABI providers will mark
their ABIs by using sonames correctly?
Maybe that is at least the common case, then ABI_SLOT could be set
automatically.
Although we have a lot of this information available (which is why/how
On 07/07/2012 11:54 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
Is it unrealistic to assume that upstream ABI providers will mark
their ABIs by using sonames correctly?
Maybe that is at least the common case, then ABI_SLOT could be set
automatically.
Although we have a lot of this
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On 25/06/12 01:58 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/25/2012 06:03 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 23/06/12 08:42 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/10/2012 11:18 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012
On 06/25/2012 06:03 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 23/06/12 08:42 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/10/2012 11:18 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT
On 06/10/2012 11:18 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the
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On 10/06/12 06:49 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts.
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib
dependency will be expressed with an atom such as dev-libs/glib:2:=
and the package
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib
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On 10/06/12 08:45 AM, Davide Pesavento wrote:
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional
On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib
dependency will be expressed with an
El dom, 10-06-2012 a las 13:25 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib
dependency will be
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using
the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib
dependency will be
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:31 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM,
El sáb, 09-06-2012 a las 12:46 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:31 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:31:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
We can just write a specification for this one feature, and ask the
Council to approve it.
The last feature someone did that way was REQUIRED_USE, and we all know
how that turned out...
What you *should* do is get an
On 06/09/2012 05:15 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:31:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
We can just write a specification for this one feature, and ask the
Council to approve it.
The last feature someone did that way was REQUIRED_USE, and we all know
how that
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012
On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM,
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On 08/06/12 03:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
It's close enough to ABI_SLOT that it would make more sense just
to use ABI_SLOT because it's more flexible.
In that case, I think it's clear
On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after
glib:2 updates?
Badly, most likely.
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would
be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 14:59 -0700, Brian Harring escribió:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 07:18:01PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
Is there any chance to detect this ZLIB_VERSION problem with
revdep-rebuild (worst case: add a list of possibly broken
On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would
On 06/06/2012 10:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple
versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If you really
couldn't do that (and you should think very
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular
than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate
the common practice of allowing ABI changes within a particular SLOT.
You're
On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after
glib:2 updates?
Badly, most likely.
And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, if
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 18:40 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular
than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate
the common
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 10:42 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/06/2012 10:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple
versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If
On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular
than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate
the common practice of allowing
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
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On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote:
And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps,
if they were available.
No, we wouldn't.
Best regards, Wulf
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:03:25 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
You're missing out on a brilliant opportunity to encourage
developers put in a bit more work to save users a huge amount of
pain here.
What about cases like the dbus-glib and glib:2 dependency, where it's
just too
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:42:29 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
It seems like you're trying to make glib fit your SLOT operator
model, even though it's a natural fit for the ABI_SLOT operator
model.
No, I'm trying to strongly encourage people to make proper use of
slots to
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:04 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger escribió:
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On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote:
And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps,
if they were available.
No, we wouldn't.
Best regards, Wulf
Talk
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular
than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:47:19 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after
glib:2 updates?
Badly, most
On 06/07/2012 11:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun
On 06/07/2012 11:13 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:47:19 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:16 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on
glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than
two slots are available
Well, per:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on
glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than
two slots are
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on
glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more
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On 07/06/12 03:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to
RDEPEND on
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:14:03 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
How is the case of something like libpng going to be handled, where we
only support one API (and so only one SLOT)? Either in the proposed
ABI_SLOT thing or when using slot
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I would
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:15:28PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:14:03 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
How is the case of something like libpng going to be handled, where we
only support one API (and so
On 06/07/2012 11:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote:
I'm perfectly fine w/ ABI_SLOT and SLOT (I proposed a similar thing
in '06/'07); I'd however suggest ensuring there is some
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 16:07 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/05/2012 06:31 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson escribió:
The ideal solution is for the Ebuild to instruct the PMS to rebuild
the dependent packages.
We can have a variable
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 06:33 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:31:01 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We all know what would be the ideal solution, the problem is how to
implement it (and how many years we need to wait to get it working).
We do? Please
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 01:54 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
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On 06/06/2012 01:46 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 19:18 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
Is there any chance to detect this
On 06/06/2012 01:28 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 16:07 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
The SLOT operator dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are
very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work with
unslotted packages, then we need to introduce a separate
On 06/06/2012 02:10 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 01:54 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/06/2012 01:46 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 19:18 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
Is there any chance to detect this
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 02:17 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/06/2012 01:28 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 16:07 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
The SLOT operator dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are
very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work
On 06/06/2012 02:48 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 02:17 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
On 06/06/2012 01:28 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 16:07 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
The SLOT operator dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are
very close to a good
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:48:26 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
That looks nice, only two notes:
- Looks like would be more sense on distinguish between SLOT and
ABI_SLOT, for example:
* dbus-glib would rdepend on glib:2
* if glib:2 abi changes, we would pull a
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:32:08 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still
didn't fully know what the problem was.
Well, could you please let me know how to handle some issues already
mentioned? For example:
- Rebuild dbus-glib
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 18:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:48:26 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
That looks nice, only two notes:
- Looks like would be more sense on distinguish between SLOT and
ABI_SLOT, for example:
* dbus-glib would rdepend on
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 18:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:32:08 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still
didn't fully know what the problem was.
Well, could you please let me know how to
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:02:24 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Probably other gnome team could reply this better than me, but I don't
think slotting every glib-2 due ABI changes deserves the huge effort.
Think of the users.
Also, we want people to rebuild them against, for example,
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 19:15 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:02:24 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Probably other gnome team could reply this better than me, but I don't
think slotting every glib-2 due ABI changes deserves the huge effort.
Think of the
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:30:52 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Also, how could this be handled in dbus-glib side? I mean, would
we need to update dbus-glib update from RDEPENDing on glib:2.30 to
glib:2.32? :O
Noo. You'd use := dependencies, possibly with a = constraint.
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 19:33 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:30:52 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Also, how could this be handled in dbus-glib side? I mean, would
we need to update dbus-glib update from RDEPENDing on glib:2.30 to
glib:2.32? :O
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would
be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it and looks to have an idea
about what should it do.
There's a big leap from more or less clear and an idea to the
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 20:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would
be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it and looks to have an idea
about what should
On 06/06/2012 10:16 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:48:26 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
That looks nice, only two notes:
- Looks like would be more sense on distinguish between SLOT and
ABI_SLOT, for example:
* dbus-glib would rdepend on glib:2
* if
On 06/06/2012 10:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:32:08 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still
didn't fully know what the problem was.
Well, could you please let me know how to handle some issues already
On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would
be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it and looks to have an idea
about what should it do.
There's a
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple
versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If you really
couldn't do that (and you should think very carefully before saying
you can't, since this
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson escribió:
[...]
There's never anything important in all that text. - Anonymous
Gentoo User
We've already determined that the users don't read the output. This is
a known fact. Something I repeat in #gentoo more often than I care to
On 06/05/2012 06:31 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson escribió:
The ideal solution is for the Ebuild to instruct the PMS to rebuild
the dependent packages.
We can have a variable called REBUILD. All packages that would need to
be rebuilt can be
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:07:40 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
The SLOT operator dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are
very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work with
unslotted packages, then we need to introduce a separate ABI_SLOT
variable as discussed
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:31:01 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We all know what would be the ideal solution, the problem is how to
implement it (and how many years we need to wait to get it working).
We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still didn't
fully know what
On 06/05/2012 10:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:07:40 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
The SLOT operator dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are
very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work with
unslotted packages, then we need to
Hello, will send this to gentoo-dev mailing list per Zac's suggestion ;):
Probably Zac already remembers my suggestion of:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413619
Sorry for insisting a bit on it but this issue bites me periodically.
Months ago, I was able to administrate myself some of
On 06/04/2012 02:29 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
- Looks like there is no consensus about what to do and, then, this
could probably be implemented on eapi... 7? While former could probably
be implemented much sooner (probably even in eapi5)
Ciaran has been advocating SLOT operator dependencies for
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