Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > a big question is how to make it happen without just throwing > complaints on the folks who are trying their best to keep it all going. The answer to this is the same as it has always been: Demonstrate that you are capable and reliable and given social compatibility then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of > the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute > solutions and only *then* have a chance of becoming part of the team. > > I for one am

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/14/2015 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of >> the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute >> solutions and only *then* have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 03:03:53PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > If I had access to things I could help. But I don't, so I can't. The scripts of the git->rsync process are already open. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/infra/mastermirror-scripts.git/ (also in there are the related scripts for the other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:36:41 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > Broken breakage > > > tl;dr: Stuff is broken, and no one seems to care > ... > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557184 RESOLVED > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557192 RESOLVED > [3]

[gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
Broken breakage tl;dr: Stuff is broken, and no one seems to care In August the git "migration" happened, moving our main repository from old stupid cvs to modern shiny git. Well, migration is not the word I'd use, because this was an untested forced migration that is now, months later, still

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
TL;DR summary: Yes, stuff has broken, but I'd call them reasonable teething issues well distributed through the stack, and to be compared to the CVS server moves from a decade ago, rather than CVS just before the Git switch. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 06:36:41PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: ... (mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > In the long run I am considering just creating my own clone of all > infrastructure bits so I can fix things I just wanted to comment that things like this should never be viewed as a bad thing. Many contributions to