Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Christopher Head wrote: > > Why? It’s just another dependency. Why does DEPEND="dev-libs/bar" work > so beautifully but DEPEND="dev-libs/bar[baz]" work so horribly? If I > haven’t explicitly said I want baz, and I haven’t explicitly said I > *don’t*

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-02-03 Thread Christopher Head
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:11:43 +0100 Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > If I may add a user opinion. I agree with you but I would choose > different solution for user-friendliness. Instead of _adding_ > interactivity to PM I would _remove_ it. So if there would be > multiple

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/27/2017 12:51 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 01/27/2017 12:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> Forked from the gdbm/berkdb thread, wall of text ensues... >> >> >> On 01/27/2017 03:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >>> >>> You mention REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly, I think I see your >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-29 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:51:27 -0500 NP-Hardass wrote: > On 01/27/2017 12:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Forked from the gdbm/berkdb thread, wall of text ensues... > > > > > > On 01/27/2017 03:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > >> > >> You mention REQUIRED_USE should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-28 Thread james
On 01/28/2017 08:27 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 02:57:00PM -0500, james wrote Exactly:: simplify the flags, profiles and associated constructs down to the bare bones. Even embedded (arm/mips/etc) builds could benefit from a really minimized gentoo as a starting point.

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 02:57:00PM -0500, james wrote > > Exactly:: simplify the flags, profiles and associated constructs down to > the bare bones. Even embedded (arm/mips/etc) builds could benefit from a > really minimized gentoo as a starting point. Freedom to build and fork > Gentoo, per

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-27 Thread NP-Hardass
On 01/27/2017 12:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Forked from the gdbm/berkdb thread, wall of text ensues... > > > On 01/27/2017 03:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> >> You mention REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly, I think I see your >> reasoning, but if so, then why did we add it in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-27 Thread james
On 01/27/2017 12:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Forked from the gdbm/berkdb thread, wall of text ensues... On 01/27/2017 03:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: You mention REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly, I think I see your reasoning, but if so, then why did we add it in the first place?

[gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
Forked from the gdbm/berkdb thread, wall of text ensues... On 01/27/2017 03:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > You mention REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly, I think I see your > reasoning, but if so, then why did we add it in the first place? There are a few conflicting interests at play.