Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-10 Thread Alexey Sokolov
ср, 10 февр. 2021 г. в 01:16, Tim Harder : > > On 2021-02-09 Tue 17:51, Benda Xu wrote: > > I am wondering how useable pkgcore is on alpha, hppa, etc. Maybe it's > > time for us to plan for a Gentoo without essential Python dependency. > > Just to keep misinformation down, pkgcore currently has

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-10 Thread Peter Stuge
Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > The first big blocker we're going to hit is trustme [3] package that > > > relies on cryptography API pretty heavily to generate TLS certs for > > > testing. > > > > For which testing? Could it be changed to generate certs differently? > > He is probably referring to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:57 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > > The first big blocker we're going to hit is trustme [3] package that > > relies on cryptography API pretty heavily to generate TLS certs for > > testing. > > For which testing? Could it be changed to generate certs differently? He is

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-10 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > I'm seriously wondering why I'm wasting so much effort on open source. Open source only ever works when taking responsibility for one's problems. > I don't see a good way out of it. I see a couple. Of course all require some effort. One was already mentioned; move Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-09 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 08:51 +0800, Benda Xu wrote: > > > > The first big blocker we're going to hit is trustme [3] package that > > relies on cryptography API pretty heavily to generate TLS certs for > > testing. If we managed to convince upstream to support an alternate > > crypto backend, we'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-09 Thread Tim Harder
On 2021-02-09 Tue 17:51, Benda Xu wrote: > I am wondering how useable pkgcore is on alpha, hppa, etc. Maybe it's > time for us to plan for a Gentoo without essential Python dependency. Just to keep misinformation down, pkgcore currently has nothing to do with rust as it's implemented in python

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-09 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: > So it seems that upstream has practically closed the discussion, > and the short summary is that they only care for the 'majority' of > users, they don't care for minor platforms (but we're free to port > LLVM/Rust to them) and -- unsurprisingly -- this is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-02-08 at 12:19 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. > > Since cryptography is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 1:35 PM Brian Evans wrote: > > On 2/8/2021 12:53 PM, Brian Evans wrote: > > On 2/8/2021 6:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > >> to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:02:43AM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:56 AM Alessandro Barbieri > wrote: > > > > Il Lun 8 Feb 2021, 12:19 Michał Górny ha scritto: > >> > > > > Should we shed tears for those legacy architectures or move forward? Does > > anyone really use

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-02-08 at 18:56 +0100, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > Il Lun 8 Feb 2021, 12:19 Michał Górny ha scritto: > > > Hi, > > > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > > provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Brian Evans
On 2/8/2021 12:53 PM, Brian Evans wrote: On 2/8/2021 6:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Hi, FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions.  It's unlikely that they're going to provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-02-08 at 12:53 -0500, Brian Evans wrote: > On 2/8/2021 6:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, > > > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > > provide LTS support or security

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:56 AM Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > > Il Lun 8 Feb 2021, 12:19 Michał Górny ha scritto: >> >> Hi, >> >> FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going >> to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to >> provide LTS

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 2/8/21 7:53 PM, Brian Evans wrote: > > AFAICT, it is just used to pull GPG sigs in gemato via > dev-python/requests. > And it that's true, isn't this only relevant when syncing the tree using rsync? So using git would still be viable? -- juippis OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Alessandro Barbieri
Il Lun 8 Feb 2021, 12:19 Michał Górny ha scritto: > Hi, > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. > > Since cryptography is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Brian Evans
On 2/8/2021 6:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Hi, FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. Since cryptography is a very important

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 2/8/21 2:27 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Not only that, but you will be dropping support for at least two of my > machines that are literally incapable of building the 10+ GiB bundled > rust package due to the amount of disk space and RAM required. > Pardon my intervention, but there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-02-08 at 12:19 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > Since cryptography is a very important package in the Python ecosystem, > and it is an indirect dependency of Portage, this means that we will > probably have to entirely drop support for architectures that are not > supported by Rust. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Sam James
> On 8 Feb 2021, at 11:19, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. > > Since cryptography is

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 12:19:13 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to > provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. > > > > Honestly, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 08-02-2021 a las 12:19 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: > Hi, > > FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going > to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions.  It's unlikely that they're going to > provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. > > Since

[gentoo-dev] dev-python/cryptography to use rust, effectively killing alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, s390

2021-02-08 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, FYI the developers of dev-python/cryptography decided that Rust is going to be mandatory for 1.5+ versions. It's unlikely that they're going to provide LTS support or security fixes for the old versions. Since cryptography is a very important package in the Python ecosystem, and it is an