Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers ^H^H^H^H^Haq

2003-11-27 Thread POLAX
> Can someone explain to me what is going on. Usually in computers, if > there are no external speakers the internal speaker works and when you plug in > the > the external speakers they start to work. Is it a hardware feature or a > software feature. Can I control which speakers will be use. I ca

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers, you mean windows?

2003-11-27 Thread Scharf Yuval
Now that I checked it, I think that HvR was right. The internal speaker is really the regular system speaker. Windows installed drivers for two devices one connected to the internal speaker and the other is the real soundcard. Yuval Scharf On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, HvR wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-27 a

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers, you mean windows?

2003-11-27 Thread HvR
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 07:55, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Scharf Yuval wrote: > Hello, > > For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer > in my university produce any sound with no luck. > > Today I tried to play a CD but it didn't work. I became very suspicious, > play

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:25:36 + MAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collins Richey wrote: > > Maybe you have the same problem as I do. My gentoo system uses devfs. When > > I load the alsa ens1371 module (modprobe ens1371), the soundcard clicks, but > > no/dev/dsp ... device entries are created.

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jeff MacDonald wrote: Is your sound card integrated into the mobo? > yup. That makes more sense. I refuse to get a mobo that has anything more than an IDE and floppy controller integrated into it. well you're very noble :) this was a 150$ machine i use as a file server, so i don't care too much

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Jim
On Thursday 27 November 2003 10:38 am, Collins Richey wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:39 +0200 (IST) Scharf Yuval > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer > > in my university produce any sound with no luck. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff MacDonald
> >>Is your sound card integrated into the mobo? > > > > yup. > > That makes more sense. I refuse to get a mobo that has anything more than an IDE and > floppy controller integrated into it. well you're very noble :) this was a 150$ machine i use as a file server, so i don't care too much. jef

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread MAL
Collins Richey wrote: Maybe you have the same problem as I do. My gentoo system uses devfs. When I load the alsa ens1371 module (modprobe ens1371), the soundcard clicks, but no /dev/dsp ... device entries are created. I have to 'rmmod ens1371' then 'modprobe ens1371' a second time to get it to w

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jeff MacDonald wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 12:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jeff MacDonald wrote: So, Windows uses only the internal speaker and Linux uses only the external speakers. I wasn't aware the internal speaker could produce anything more than different beeps ;) Is this perhaps a laptop?

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff MacDonald
yup. On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 12:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Jeff MacDonald wrote: > >>>So, Windows uses only the internal speaker and Linux uses only the > >>>external speakers. > >> > >>I wasn't aware the internal speaker could produce anything more than different > >>beeps ;) Is > >>this perhap

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Have you disabled sound support in the kernel before using alsa? I use the es1371 driver, which is in the kernel, and it works great (no alsa). On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 16:38, Collins Richey wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:39 +0200 (IST) Scharf Yuval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hello, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
Scharf Yuval wrote: Hi Andrew, You are referring to the system speaker, the beep producer. I'm referring to a real (lousy) internal speaker in a Compaq desktop. Yuval Scharf The only reason that wintendo uses the internal speakers is because the driver is setup that way. Just a "more_better

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Scharf Yuval wrote: Hi Andrew, You are referring to the system speaker, the beep producer. I'm referring to a real (lousy) internal speaker in a Compaq desktop. One more reason to hate crappy Compaq computers. What is the point of this design? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jeff MacDonald wrote: So, Windows uses only the internal speaker and Linux uses only the external speakers. I wasn't aware the internal speaker could produce anything more than different beeps ;) Is this perhaps a laptop? Oddly enough , this isn't the case. I have an IBM aptiva running FreeBSD,

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hi Andrew, You are referring to the system speaker, the beep producer. I'm referring to a real (lousy) internal speaker in a Compaq desktop. Yuval Scharf On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Scharf Yuval wrote: > > Hello, > > > > For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my ol

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Jeff MacDonald
> > > > So, Windows uses only the internal speaker and Linux uses only the > > external speakers. > > I wasn't aware the internal speaker could produce anything more than different beeps > ;) Is > this perhaps a laptop? Oddly enough , this isn't the case. I have an IBM aptiva running FreeBSD,

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Scharf Yuval wrote: Hello, For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer in my university produce any sound with no luck. Today I tried to play a CD but it didn't work. I became very suspicious, playing a CD has very little to do with the OS. So I took two speakers, con

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Scharf Yuval
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:39 +0200 (IST) Scharf Yuval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer > > in my university produce any sound with no luck. > > > > I used red-ha

Re: [gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:39 +0200 (IST) Scharf Yuval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer > in my university produce any sound with no luck. > > I used red-had 8, Gentoo with 2.4 kernel, Gentoo with 2.6 kerenl. > I tri

[gentoo-user] I hate computers

2003-11-27 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hello, For dozens of hours I tried to make the ens1371 in my old Compaq computer in my university produce any sound with no luck. I used red-had 8, Gentoo with 2.4 kernel, Gentoo with 2.6 kerenl. I tried amazingly many combinations. It didn't work. As much as I could have seen the computer was pl