Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 23:54 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
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| Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no
| bugfree software out there. Why should this be any other with
| nvidia-drivers?
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 00:24 schrieb Spider:
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you
stop using framebuffer or add
Too bad, I want my TV out. oops. And I
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
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| Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I
| am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be
Brendan Sullivan wrote:
nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux about a
bit over a year ago. Sure they're not perfect, but i haven't had any
problems i haven't been able to find the solutions to and fix myself,
and i'm not at all a linux guru. I use gentoo for daily email,
Spider wrote:
No, xserver != XFree86. Same origins, different beast. (And, oops. the
drivers would work if they'd been Open Source. )
So I can play America's Army with the nv driver?
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On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 01:39, Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
Stroller wrote:
I'd go for the 9200 for bang/buck - however, you will need to use the
ATI binary drivers for 3D. If you get the 7000/7500 you should be able
to use the DRI open-source drivers.
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tom Wesley wrote:
I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for
linux :-)
Grendel
Any recommendations as to which? I've about £100 to spend...
Hmm..At that price you are probably looking for a geforce Ti4200 chipset
based card, It is
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:28, Stroller wrote:
...Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
- 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out for £35
you may want to read this:
Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for
linux :-)
Grendel
It's a question what u mean by support.
If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed
code drivers, u are right.
IMHO support for
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,
Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for
linux :-)
Grendel
It's a question what u mean by support.
If by support u mean
Pawel J Maczewski wrote:
I'd like to see your X config file...
Here it follows:
# Radeon 7500 + Eizo F56 + Genius Netmouse Pro + xfree-drm
Section ServerLayout
Identifier radeon + netmouse + eizo
Screen 0Screen0 0 0
InputDevice Mouse0
Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stroller wrote:
Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
- 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out for £35
I'd go for the 9200 for bang/buck - however, you will
Grendel wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,
Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for
linux :-)
Grendel
It's a question what u mean by support.
If by support u mean
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,
Grendel wrote:
I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's.
And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset
using proprietary drivers.
Most are due to linux's buggy ACPI implementations. VIA support
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Thomas Preissler commented thusly,
I have a AMD Duron 700 with a NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX. When I switch
videomode the computer hangs somtimes - as mentioned in various
forums - mem=nopentium as kernelparameter works great. For about
one week my computer was not freezed by that
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:30:06 +0600 (LKT) Grendel
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snip loads of nvidia fanboy stuff
| Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major
| manufacturers tweak there drivers so that certain benchmark utilities
| like 3dmark, quake3, and splinter cell all run
Grendel wrote:
But how were the frame rates in 3d when compared with windows versions of
the same application.
This I really don't care, since I haven't any copy of that M$ shit.
noro
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Ciaran McCreesh commented thusly,
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:30:06 +0600 (LKT) Grendel
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snip loads of nvidia fanboy stuff
| Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major
| manufacturers tweak there drivers so
Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if you're
going to be doing some gaming...
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On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:14 pm, Gard Spreemann wrote:
Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if
you're
going to be doing some gaming...
The ATI ones..?
So a geForce would be worth the extra money..?
I'm tempted by the Abit 64Mb Siluro GeForce 3 VIO at #35 or the 64Mb
XFX
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Stroller commented thusly,
On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:14 pm, Gard Spreemann wrote:
Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if
you're
going to be doing some gaming...
The ATI ones..?
So a geForce would be worth the
Grendel wrote:
the reason they arent open sourcing is that they are (justifiably) afraid
that ATI will have a look at their driver interface to the card, then they
(ATI) can figure out the current wekneses of NVIDIA cards and improve
there ATI's based on that. Its not that they dont like the
Norbert Kamenicky said,
I would say nvidia is worry about the same thing as microshit.
If they open the sources, a lot of programmers will die.
The reason is a lot simpler than that. The NVIDIA drivers contain some
proprietary TL code. They have bought a licence to use the code but not
to
If I were going to invest in any graphics card for use with gaming in Linux, I
would definately get a GeForce FX5600 Ultra or a 5900. Yes - they are
expensive, but if you are getting anything less (like a GF4 or an ancient
GF3), do get them used!
On Monday 09 February 2004 16:29, Stroller
i would agree with the FX part of thatthe 5900 series of FX cards is
amazing...but some people (like me) dont have the $400 needed to put one
of those into our gaming machines. That card alone costs about 50% of
what i payed for all the parts for my latest machine.
I have a GF4 ti4200 and am
Hello,
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 19:27 schrieb Norbert Kamenicky:
Grendel wrote:
the reason they arent open sourcing is that they are (justifiably) afraid
that ATI will have a look at their driver interface to the card, then
they (ATI) can figure out the current wekneses of NVIDIA cards
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
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| Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I
| am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get an
ebuild
Hi,
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I
| am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
Please tell
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 19:35, Stroller wrote:
The UK supplier has some graphics cards on sale Today Only (which at
the weekends means Monday, too).
Has anyone got any recommendations out of the following cheap graphics
cards..?
Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Blah. Did you actually read their sources,
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Blah. Did you actually read their sources,
nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux about a
bit over a year ago. Sure they're not perfect, but i haven't had any
problems i haven't been able to find the solutions to and fix myself,
and i'm not at all a linux guru. I use gentoo for daily email, chatting,
web browsing,
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:20:17 -0600
Brendan Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux.
No, xserver != XFree86. Same origins, different beast. (And, oops. the
drivers would work if they'd been Open Source. )
//Spider
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Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 22:06 schrieb Spider:
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
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ahwas not aware of that...further enlightenment ;)
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:28, Spider wrote:
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:20:17 -0600
Brendan Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux.
No, xserver != XFree86. Same
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no
| bugfree software out there. Why should this be any other with
| nvidia-drivers? Report them, and maybe they get fixed.
Yeah right. nVidia have
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you
stop using framebuffer or add
Too bad, I want my TV out. oops. And I said text not framebuffer
. Back to go.
Maybe a bug
Hi,
On Monday 09 February 2004 22:20, Brendan Sullivan wrote:
I've used nvidia's drivers with 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with very little
problems at all...is this the exception rather than the norm???
no, but the one with the problems are whining around, while the satisfied
users are quiet. I am
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Gard Spreemann commented thusly,
If I were going to invest in any graphics card for use with gaming in Linux, I
would definately get a GeForce FX5600 Ultra or a 5900. Yes - they are
Wasnt the 5600 the one with which had the infamous tinnitus
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Spider commented thusly,
Why is the kernel-driver larger than the binary image of my kernel?
I dunno, you have the much valued source for the kernel driver so please
figure this out yourself and help us by trimmimg the unncessary slack if
it is so
Grendel wrote:
Let me tell you this, the xfree86 has buggy drivers for cards as well. So
does open source software for example even our beloved kernel has a lot of
problems with ACPI, so even free software has its bugs. Tell me the
ide-scsi source code is available has anyone fixed that for
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Manuel McLure commented thusly,
Grendel wrote:
Let me tell you this, the xfree86 has buggy drivers for cards as well. So
does open source software for example even our beloved kernel has a lot of
problems with ACPI, so even free software has its
The UK supplier has some graphics cards on sale Today Only (which at
the weekends means Monday, too).
Has anyone got any recommendations out of the following cheap graphics
cards..?
Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP
Stroller wrote:
The UK supplier has some graphics cards on sale Today Only (which at
the weekends means Monday, too).
Has anyone got any recommendations out of the following cheap graphics
cards..?
Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:28, Stroller wrote:
On Feb 9, 2004, at 1:19 am, Manuel McLure wrote:
Stroller wrote:
...Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
- 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out
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