Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Bill Roberts
This is my first time replying to a thread using gmail, so I apologize in advance if It ends up on the wrong end of the thread. There seems to be a big change coming in graphics: Intel is coming out towards the end of the year with a motherboard with integrated graphics that will be competitive

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Bill Roberts wrote: This is my first time replying to a thread using gmail, so I apologize in advance if It ends up on the wrong end of the thread. There seems to be a big change coming in graphics: Intel is coming out towards the end of the year with a motherboard

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Platoali wrote: And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? I don't know if this

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Platoali
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Platoali wrote: And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:51:05 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. It's not a

[gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in /etc/make.conf (which is -O2) Is there a means to do so without changing /etc/make.conf temporarily? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Justin
Helmut Jarausch schrieb: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in /etc/make.conf (which is -O2) Is there a means to do so without changing /etc/make.conf temporarily? Many thanks for a hint,

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:14:56 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: MythDVD runs on the frontend, you should have a CD/DVD item in the main menu, with options to Play DVD and Import DVD. I do not have this option in the main menu. I see: Watch TV Media Manage Recordings Information Center

[gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread felix
I have two problems related to world on my ~amd64 system. I upgraded gcc and finished the emerge -ev system, but I can't do the same to world because of blockage. Specifically -- !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:31:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: www-client/mozilla-firefox:0 ('ebuild', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14', 'merge')

[gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Matt Harrison
Hi all, Some of you may remember my problems with lvm after an update in http://www.archivum.info/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/2008-04/msg00899.html I'm now headed back towards the same situation. I have a load of updates to do according to emerge -DNavu world but I've had to mask all upgraded

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in /etc/make.conf (which is -O2) Is there a means to do so without changing /etc/make.conf temporarily?

[gentoo-user] digital camera - Longshot!

2008-06-18 Thread Matthew R. Lee
Dear All, I've just taken delivery of a shiny new microscope with a digital imaging system. Essentially a fancy usb webcam. As usual out of the box there is no Linux support. The model is a Q Imaging Go-3. Their website doesn't mention linux support except in the context of the firewire

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Justin
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in /etc/make.conf (which is -O2) Is there a means to do so without

Re: [gentoo-user] digital camera - Longshot!

2008-06-18 Thread felix
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:50:42PM -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote: Dear All, I've just taken delivery of a shiny new microscope with a digital imaging system. Essentially a fancy usb webcam. As usual out of the box there is no Linux support. The model is a Q Imaging Go-3. Their website doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:14:56 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: MythDVD runs on the frontend, you should have a CD/DVD item in the main menu, with options to Play DVD and Import DVD. I do not have this option in the main

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mess started before firefox-3.0.0 was released, but I have since upgraded.  I still get this complaint about 2.0.0.14.  I have demerged dev-haskell/gtk2hs, yet emerge -pev world still wants to drag it in (it shows as [  N ]) and that

Re: [gentoo-user] digital camera - Longshot!

2008-06-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Jun 2008, at 18:50, Matthew R. Lee wrote: ... I've done a lsusb and got the following info: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 5354:80e3 [no model or manufacturer info] I've looked through various webcam, gentoo-wiki, and V4L sites to see if those IDs mean anything, but no luck sofar. I even tried

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread felix
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:14:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 2 ways to find out: 1. equery depends gtk2hs This method is not really reliable but works often enough to be useful I had tried this, but it blows up and dumps out a nice backtrace which might be fun for somebody, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi, I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. The proprietary drivers *never* worked for me - the binary kernel modules crashed the whole kernel (complete lockup) after a several seconds (doesnt even need X to come up for that). I've analyzed their module a bit and

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:29 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: eix -e mythtv SNIP Installed versions: 0.21_p16867(12:32:45 04/07/08)(alsa dvb dvd ivtv mmx perl python vorbis xvmc -aac -altivec -autostart -dbox2 -debug -directv -hdhomerun -ieee1394 -iptv -jack -joystick -lcd -lirc -opengl

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in /etc/make.conf (which is -O2) Is there a means to do so without

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:41:12 +0100 Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Some of you may remember my problems with lvm after an update in http://www.archivum.info/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/2008-04/msg00899.html I'm now headed back towards the same situation. I have a load

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi, I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. The proprietary drivers *never* worked for me - the binary kernel modules crashed the whole kernel (complete lockup) after a several seconds (doesnt even need X to come

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Justin wrote: First he only wants to reduce his CFLAGS and second as discussed it is more easy to use EXTRA_ECONF variable to expand configure stuff. and filter-flags does exaclty that - filter and replaces flags. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1) than my default in

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Matt Harrison
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:46:25PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Which versions are you using, to which shall they be updated and on which arch are you? Knowing emerge --info and your profile might also help. Thanks for the reply. Ok, versions in use: lvm2-2.02.10 mdadm-2.6.4-r1 udev-104-r12

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread Roy Wright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two problems related to world on my ~amd64 system. I upgraded gcc and finished the emerge -ev system, but I can't do the same to world because of blockage. Specifically -- !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the

[gentoo-user] GRUB question

2008-06-18 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I've just compiled a new kernel. I then mounted the boot partition, copied the new bzimage across, along with .config and system.map. I then edited the grub.conf But when I reboot it offers me the same options as in the old grub.conf not the new one. I must have missed a step somewhere, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB question

2008-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:34:35 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote: I've just compiled a new kernel. I then mounted the boot partition, copied the new bzimage across, along with .config and system.map. I then edited the grub.conf But when I reboot it offers me the same options as in the old grub.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:14:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 2 ways to find out: 1. equery depends gtk2hs This method is not really reliable but works often enough to be useful I had tried this, but it blows up and dumps out

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:01:03 +0100 Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:46:25PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Which versions are you using, to which shall they be updated and on which arch are you? Knowing emerge --info and your profile might also help.

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Slightly older version on this machine so I'll upgrade to the one you are running in case it's a bug that got caught and fixed. Unless it's the opengl stuff I don't see anything else really obvious to me. I'm sure I

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB question

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Matthew R. Lee wrote: I've just compiled a new kernel. I then mounted the boot partition, copied the new bzimage across, along with .config and system.map. I then edited the grub.conf But when I reboot it offers me the same options as in the old grub.conf not the new

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB question

2008-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:34:35 -0400 Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just compiled a new kernel. I then mounted the boot partition, copied the new bzimage across, along with .config and system.map. I then edited the grub.conf But when I reboot it offers me the same options as in

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Matt Harrison wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:46:25PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Which versions are you using, to which shall they be updated and on which arch are you? Knowing emerge --info and your profile might also help. Thanks for the reply. Ok,

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread felix
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 18 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:14:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 2 ways to find out: 1. equery depends gtk2hs This method is not really reliable but works often enough

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world?

2008-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 19 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I demerged himerge and now it comes down to this: !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: x11-proto/printproto:0 Somebody else posted that this is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading without breaking LVM

2008-06-18 Thread Matt Harrison
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:01:03 +0100 Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:46:25PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Which versions are you using, to which shall they be updated and on which arch are

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I update world? -- FIXED

2008-06-18 Thread felix
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:29:00PM -0500, Roy Wright wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two problems related to world on my ~amd64 system. I upgraded gcc and finished the emerge -ev system, but I can't do the same to world because of blockage. Specifically -- !!! Multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: ATI? Which 3d drivers are as bad as nvidia from 'obfuscation' point of view and a lot worse if you compare the horror stories? The point is that *this* is changing with ATI. -- Nicolas Sebrecht -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB question

2008-06-18 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Wednesday 18 June 2008 17:54:28 Florian Philipp wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:34:35 -0400 Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just compiled a new kernel. I then mounted the boot partition, copied the new bzimage across, along with .config and system.map. I then edited the

Re: [gentoo-user] temporarily lower gcc's optimization flags - HowTo

2008-06-18 Thread William Kenworthy
CFLAGS='-MY_OTHER_FLAGS -O1' emerge package ??? BillK On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 19:46 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, due to a bug with gcc-4.3.1 when used with -O2 or higher I need to emerge a package with a lower optimization (-O1)

Re: [gentoo-user] digital camera - Longshot!

2008-06-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 13:50 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote: Dear All, I've just taken delivery of a shiny new microscope with a digital imaging system. Essentially a fancy usb webcam. As usual out of the box there is no Linux support. The model is a Q Imaging Go-3. Their website doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Slightly older version on this machine so I'll upgrade to the one you are running in case it's a bug that got caught and fixed. Unless it's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Robert Bridge
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:04:40 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. There is your problem. A notebook card. Even the nVidia site admits that the notebook cards are weird. The drivers support the chipset, but there are no

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:05 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida Hi, I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. The proprietary drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 19 June 2008, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: ATI? Which 3d drivers are as bad as nvidia from 'obfuscation' point of view and a lot worse if you compare the horror stories? The point is that *this* is changing with ATI. really? it is? and