Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread John Blinka
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: > Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm > running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for > /

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk wrote: > On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! Just posted to -devel, the news item r

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +0100, pk wrote: > > I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! testing, not masked. Although it turns out that the latest in ~amd64 is the s

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: > * Dale [120309 21:55]: >> Howdy, >> > [..] >> [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... > > It found your initramfs... > >> [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed > > The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs > >> [0.88011

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk wrote: > On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! That's one case; I would not take it f

[gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-10 Thread András Csányi
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Bryan Gardiner wrote: >> From Paul's output: >>> sys-apps/smartmontools: >>>         5082    /usr/sbin/smartd >>> sys-auth/consolekit: >>>         4384    /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon >> >> This gives the pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:36:07 +0100, YoYo Siska wrote: > > I use an ext2 filesystem for portage, it's still the fastest out > > there. Journals are unnecessary because its such a small filesystem, > > and if it does get damaged I can just reformat and sync again. > > I use an ext2 partition in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Bryan Gardiner wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:09:37 -0800 > Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Paul Hartman >> wrote: >> > >> > I just ran it, here's the output: >> > >> > Found 22 processes using old versions of upgraded files >> > (15 distinct

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread YoYo Siska
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:35:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:30:15 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Any tips on this? Does it make sense to use a special file system just > > for the portage tree? What would be best? Would it help to re-create > > this file system from

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:09:26 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > > > Hi there! > > > > Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra > > partition? > > > > Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient > > when usin

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale [120309 21:55]: > Howdy, > [..] > [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... > [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs > [0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (d

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: > Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm > running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for > /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate > partition outside of LVM, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:30:15 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: > Any tips on this? Does it make sense to use a special file system just > for the portage tree? What would be best? Would it help to re-create > this file system from time to time in case it gets slower with every > sync? I use an ext2 fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 10, 2012 10:09 PM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > > > On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > > > Hi there! > > > > Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? > > > > Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when > > using many s

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > Hi there! > > Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? > > Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when > using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends to > get slo

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 10.03.2012 14:30, schrieb Alex Schuster: > Hi there! > > Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? > Yes. It allows you to use a smaller and more appropriate block size like 1k or 2k which decreases internal fragmentation. It also increases locality of data, mea

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Hi there! > > Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? > > Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when > using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends to > get slower with every emerge --sync

[gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends to get slower with every emerge --sync. Space is no longer an argument i

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag >>> changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge >>> -e system or world and then changing USE flags. > >> I even tried USE="-*" e

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 03:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several > >> reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change > >> and the other is to u

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 03:48, Dale wrote: > Howdy, Howdy! > this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to > keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, As long as you don't use the udev version that requires access to /usr at boot time (or mdev) then yo

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: > > I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag > > changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge > > -e system or world and then changing USE flags. > I even tried USE="-*" emerge -e system and it just

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to >> brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a >> emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It >>

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to > brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a > emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It > appears that the stage3 tarba

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm > going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) What's the point in using -v if you're not there to watch it? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a n

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several >> reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change >> and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for >> everything b

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several > reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change > and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for > everything but root itself and /boot of c