Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 01 April 2013 20:51:45 Michael Mol wrote: --->8 > So, there are three conceivable configurations (initramfs > notwithstanding): What a fine word! It's a while since I saw it last. > 1. With systems which don't require /usr binaries before /usr would be > mounted, separate /usr is not

Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.04.2013 01:12, schrieb walt: > Any of you admin types out there have any grumpy thoughts about this > article? :) Is it really just marketing BS from cloudflare, or is it > solid stuff? > > http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-ddos-that-almost-broke-the-internet > > > well, it was bad for spamhaus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On 04/01/2013 03:26 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 01:44:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: >>> Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: > Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: >> On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: >>> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/01/2013 03:26 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 01:44:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: >>> On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: > On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> >>> Since it's obviou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 01:44:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: > > On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: > >> Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: > >>> On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > Since it's obvious that upsteam has this "my way or the highway"

Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to compile chromium 26

2013-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.04.2013 18:59, schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mair-Keimberger > wrote: >> Look at bug 463550 [1].. >> >> >> >> Either you downgrade to app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher-0.7.1-r2 or use >> the patch which is pointed out at the bug. >> >> >> >> mike >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to compile chromium 26

2013-04-01 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: > Look at bug 463550 [1].. > > > > Either you downgrade to app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher-0.7.1-r2 or use > the patch which is pointed out at the bug. > > > > mike > > > > > > 1) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463550 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ZFS wiki confusion

2013-04-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:09:05 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: > > > Just ignore the section "Installing into the kernel directory (for > > static installs)" on that page, unless you have a very special install > > (but then, you probably wouldn't hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Udev 200 : dhcpcd problem + solution

2013-04-01 Thread Philip Webb
130401 Mick wrote: > On Monday 01 Apr 2013 02:54:08 Philip Webb wrote: >> I've spent a lot of today trying to fix a glitch in starting 'dhcpcd' >> after upgrading to udev-200 ; I outlined it in a msg to gentoo-dev . -- details snipped -- > Thanks for sharing this Philip. > I was surprised to see

Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to compile chromium 26

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
Look at bug 463550 [1].. Either you downgrade to app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher-0.7.1-r2 or use the patch which is pointed out at the bug. mike 1) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463550 On Monday 01 April 2013 20:57:43 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > I'm unable to compile chromium.

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:07 + (UTC) "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" wrote: > On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: > > Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: > >> On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote: > >>> Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Since it's obvious that upsteam has this "my way or the highway" > ment

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between --update and --emptytree?

2013-04-01 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> What do you mean by sane depclean? Are there any problems with >> --depclean that I am not aware of? > > emerge -p --depclean > > generates dire warnings. I keep a previous version of the kernel > (gentoo-sources) as a fallback, and --depcl

Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/01/2013 09:54 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:29:08 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > >>> MAC addresses are not human-friendly. It would be OK if you could set >>> up aliases, so your firewall rules could use enaabbccddeeff while you >>> could still type eth0. > >> Frankly, I ne

Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:29:08 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > MAC addresses are not human-friendly. It would be OK if you could set > > up aliases, so your firewall rules could use enaabbccddeeff while you > > could still type eth0. > Frankly, I never found 'eth0' to be particularly friendly, either

Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:12:17 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I still don't understand what's so bad with MAC-based > > identification? I mean, uniqueness defined through MAC Address > > identity, the system name is just a label... > > MAC addresses are not human-friendly. It would be OK if you c

Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/01/2013 09:12 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:57:42 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> I still don't understand what's so bad with MAC-based identification? I >> mean, uniqueness defined through MAC Address identity, the system name >> is just a label... > > MAC addresses are

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert quickpkg of udev-171-r10 to local overlay...

2013-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:24:33 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > No, you only do that if the original is not available. Copy the whole > > sys-fs/udev directory to your overlay then remove the files you don't > > need > > Well, that presupposes I know what files I need and what files I don't > need...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:19:18 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > What the article didn't mention was that if you change your interface > > names, you have to create a new symlink in /etc/init.d and add it to > > the default runlevel. I'm glad I spotted that one before rebooting:) > > So, just > > ln -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ZFS wiki confusion

2013-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:09:05 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: > Just ignore the section "Installing into the kernel directory (for > static installs)" on that page, unless you have a very special install > (but then, you probably wouldn't have to ask here). Yes, you only need that if you want the modules

Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:57:42 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > I still don't understand what's so bad with MAC-based identification? I > mean, uniqueness defined through MAC Address identity, the system name > is just a label... MAC addresses are not human-friendly. It would be OK if you could set up a

Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Apr 2013 04:37:50 luis jure wrote: > on 2013-03-31 at 23:05 Michael Mol wrote: > > On 03/31/2013 10:00 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > > > There was a good story in 'Guardian' : > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/29/cyberwar-spun-sho > > > ddy-journalism > > > > The G

Re: [gentoo-user] Udev 200 : dhcpcd problem + solution

2013-04-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Apr 2013 02:54:08 Philip Webb wrote: > I've spent a lot of today trying to fix a glitch in starting 'dhcpcd' > after upgrading to udev-200 ; I outlined it in a msg to gentoo-dev . > > When I tried to start my I/net connection, I got this : > > root:501 ~> dhcpcd > dhcpcd[831]

[gentoo-user] Re: ZFS wiki confusion

2013-04-01 Thread Remy Blank
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Do you really need to copy the files into the kernel tree? No, you don't need to do that. > which seems to pull in the daemon and the kmod so wouldn't the zfs-kmod > ebuild build against the current kernel and drop in the modules > directory all by itself much like any o