[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-27 Thread Martin Vaeth
hasufell wrote: >> With rsync I believe you can exclude categories: >> http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync > > That is uninformed. I think he is right. > check the --depth option of git. You can even clone specific tags with > --depth=1. Every tag will still cont

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > > Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. > Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) > will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. > Many of them may decide the moderate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Some devs take this stuff too personally. Only the devs? LOL

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-27 Thread James
hasufell gentoo.org> writes: > I still don't see a good argument why we made our system so inflexible, > that obviously needed change needs such high amount of work, PR and proof. I think that most folks appreciate your efforts and insightful ideas on how to open up development, particularly in

[gentoo-user] Python Installation

2014-11-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I have python2.7 and python3.4 installed here. I'd like to emerge any packages which use python only for python3.4 unless this package can only be installed for python2.7. Currently, I have the following in /etc/portage/make.conf and with this configuration, packages which can be instal

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar >> (along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future > > Doesn't matter because: > > a) it won't be syste

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/23/2014 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> Also, I'll wager it likely won't be implemented in such a way as to be >> perceived by its user base as being shoved down their throats. > > Clarification - this reference was actually to the way Deb

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Gevisz wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:05:16 + Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: >>> >>> I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing >>> window button "x" to the upper-left corner of the window

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards > wrote: >> I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching >> from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like >> overkill. > > Strange enough but acc

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stuermer
Am 27.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Tom H: > I wouldn't bet to much on that. One of the most vocal anti-systemd > Debian users tried either Gento or Funtoo and reported that > installation and maintenance were difficult. Binary distros do make > things rather easier, especially if you start to play wit

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stuermer
Am 27.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Tom H: > Lennart made some design choices that I wish that he hadn't made but > I'm not losing any sleep over this; and I don't understand why anyone > else should. Three frequently brought up issues: 1. Lennart Poettering does not exactly have a track record of ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards >> wrote: > > >>> I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching >>> from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different des

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Marc Stuermer wrote: > Am 27.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Tom H: > >> I wouldn't bet to much on that. One of the most vocal anti-systemd >> Debian users tried either Gento or Funtoo and reported that >> installation and maintenance were difficult. Binary distros do mak

[gentoo-user] nginx ssl

2014-11-27 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello, has someone here running nginx with comodo ssl? I try it yet since few hours but nginx say something what i can not understand. nginx -t nginx: [emerg] SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file("/var/www/de/etc/ssl/de.key") failed (SSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate routines:X509_check_private_key:ke

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: And Sabayon uses systemd, of course. Holy moly... never noticed that this happened.

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> And Sabayon uses systemd, of course. > > Holy moly... never noticed that this happened. Sabayon started rolling systemd in April 15, 2013[1]. By Sabayon 14.01, it was the default init[2

Re: [gentoo-user] nginx ssl

2014-11-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/27/2014 01:45 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: > Hello, > > has someone here running nginx with comodo ssl? I try it yet since few > hours but nginx say something what i can not understand. > > nginx -t > nginx: [emerg] SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file("/var/www/de/etc/ssl/de.key") > failed (SSL

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Paige Thompson
so we pretty much established that dropping openrc isn't in the plans for gentoo right? Probably gonna be an option like bootloaders right? On 11/27/14 21:46, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: >> Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Paige Thompson
I think im just going to go to sleep. I really don't care if they drop support for it I'll just make my own ebuild / systemd emulation for whatever I need in spite of it, fork it and call it "you can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands linux." good night -Paige On 11/27/14 22:56, Pai

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Paige Thompson wrote: > I think im just going to go to sleep. I really don't care if they drop > support for it I'll just make my own ebuild / systemd emulation for > whatever I need in spite of it, fork it and call it "you can have it > when you pry it from my col

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:46:06PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > It sounds really cool Sabayon, I should probably try it one of these days. I'd say it's my favorite distro. Sadly, equo still doesn't know how to "depclean". -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Python Installation

2014-11-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I have python2.7 and python3.4 installed here. > I'd like to emerge any packages which use python only for python3.4 unless > this package > can only be installed for python2.7. > > Currently, I have the following in /etc/portage/ma