Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 March 2015 02:24:00 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/29/2015 02:06 AM, Franz Fellner wrote: > >> Yeah, but I have to be in the directory where the ebuild lives for that > >> to work. `emerge foo` works anywhere. It's also more flexible -- if I > >> want the *unpatched* files, I just Ctr

[gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
Hi, just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is about to be updated. I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep my working system as it is? Regards, A Humble User Ya

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
walt writes: > On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > >> When I do a control-right-click on an xterm to manipulate fonts, the >> xterm crashes. > > I had the same problem once. IIRC, strace showed me that xterm was trying > to load the "default" font but there was no value set for "de

Re: [gentoo-user] [distcc redux] A working distcc setup

2015-03-29 Thread lee
"Walter Dnes" writes: > First of all, thanks to everybody who answered my questions, and > helped me get it working. Now for the setup. This is a home LAN, so I > don't bother with ssh tunneling, etc, which will be necessary if you're > going over untrusted links, e.g. the public internet. >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
Peter Humphrey writes: > The remaining question is: why is the user not allowed to halt it? It's because a user who wants to somewhat permanently disrupt the services the machine provides would need to remain at the keyboard to continue to reboot it and thus can be caught more easily than a user

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
Philip Webb writes: > 150322 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down ? Strange >>> The thinking is that you can unplug the machine

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.03.2015 um 01:46 schrieb microcai: > on Saturday 21 March 2015 13:58:45,Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German wrote: No, I am trying to shutdown from a console >>> Well, the old answer would be tha

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> and dump people keep talking nonsencely that sysvinit is enough while it >> cannot even handle reboot for normal user. sad. >> >> >> > > it can. Did for decaded. > > Dumb systemd fanbois spouting their lies everywhere. Sad. > "Sad

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Yanestra wrote: > > just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after > the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is > about to be updated. > > I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >>> and dump people keep talking nonsencely that sysvinit is enough while it >>> cannot even handle reboot for normal user. sad. >> >> it can. Did for decaded. >> >> Dumb system

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Yanestra wrote: > Hi, > > just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but > after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole > system is about to be updated. > > I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep > my working system as i

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use > > sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32 > sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32 I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to add those two as well. > and after that doing the following comm

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: >> On 28-03-2015 06:45 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am 28.03.2015 um 14:58 schrieb Sebas Pedersen

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 09:34 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:48:48PM -0300, Sebas Pedersen wrote: >>> bios update/microcode update. A google search suggests that you have >>> run into an errata. >> >> Oh OK, thank you. Must have miss that in the search. So you are saying >> that

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:42:10 Sebas Pedersen wrote: > On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: > >> On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: > >> >> On 28-03-2015 06:45 PM, Volker

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 10:13 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:48:48 PM Sebas Pedersen wrote: I see, thanks for clarifying that. So looks like not too many options, either try to update the bios and/or replace the CPU. I really appreciated you replys and time. Thanks!, Sebas

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 29-03-2015 12:45 PM, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:42:10 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: >> On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: >> >> O

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:20:31 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use > > > > sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32 > > sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32 > > I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct > suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade because qtchooser's mask miraculously becomes ignored. And qt

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: > On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct > > suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. > > The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade bec

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > I thought about getting a wide-gamut display, namely a Dell with > rgb-LEDs, but in the end decided against it because its quality seems About two years ago I tested two Dell U3011. The first one had such a bad homogeneity of luminance that I sent it back instantly. T

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: > > On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct > > > suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. > > > > The first thing what happens here is tha

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > > I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to > > overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt > > 4.8.6. How did you go about overcoming this? > > I also have dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: >> On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: >>> "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct >>> suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. >> >> The first thing what happens

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mick wrote: > > > > I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to > > > overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt > > > 4.8.6. How did you go about overcoming this? > > > > I

[gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 30/03/15 03:43, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > >> On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: >>> On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. >

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: > >> On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct > >>> suggestions for that when using

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote: >> I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed >> this: >> >> /etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32: >>> =dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4 >>> abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/29/2015 07:27 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > If you're on stable, you'll need to keyword qt-4.8.6 in its entirety. > You can't mix and match versions, and 4.8.6 is the only one that > supports multilib. Hm, a little documentation wouldn't hurt, don't you think? This guy has written a whole a

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 19:30, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: >>> On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > "In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct >

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 19:53, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote: > >>> I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed >>> this: >>> >>> /etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32: =dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
(crossposting to -dev since this is fairly high-impact) On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 30/03/15 03:43, waben...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I also have dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2 and some other qt packages installed >> but I had no problems with that. >> >> I'm on gentoo sta

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:43:12PM +0200, lee wrote > That leaves the question why a user who isn't even logged in should > be able to reboot, which IIRC they can by default with Ctrl+Alt+Del. > Such users shouldn't be allowed to do anything but to log in. As the old saying goes... "If you don'

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:43:12PM +0200, lee wrote > >> That leaves the question why a user who isn't even logged in should >> be able to reboot, which IIRC they can by default with Ctrl+Alt+Del. >> Such users shouldn't be allowed to do anythi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-03-29 Thread Urs Schütz
On 03/29/15 06:23, lee wrote: walt writes: On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: As to fonts, I highly recommend "Source Code Pro" and "Source Sans Pro". They finally resolved my long search for good fonts. Unfortunately, they don't come with Gentoo. I copied them over from a Fedor

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is >> correct in the end > > > > It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not > your 32 bit apps that have to be listed, it's all the libs and deps the

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/30/2015 12:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > My main system isn't that special at all, gnome, systemd, libreoffice, > thunderbird, some browsers ... Stuff like that makes me really wonder > if I spend too much of my life time struggling with doing *updates* I > like Gentoo, you all know,

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/03/2015 00:10, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > >>> I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is >>> correct in the end >> >> >> >> It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not >> your 32 bit ap

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 03:30:07PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote > With TPM, full-disk encryption, and a verified boot path, you could > actually protect against that scenario (they'd have to tear apart the > TPM chip and try to access the non-volatile storage directly, and the > chips are specificall

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Be careful what you wish for. I have my doubts that TPM chips would > boot linux with Microsoft offering "volume discounts" to OEMS. Call me > cynical. > TPM chips don't control what boots. They just accept the hash of the bootloader re

[gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread James
Peter Humphrey prh.myzen.co.uk> writes: > > $ emerge xjobs > > ^C > > Ain't nobody got time for that =) > $ ebuild $(equery w xjobs) prepare Hey guys, Thanks for the discussion. I'm going to ponder these comments and test/verify suggestions a bit and develop my semantic for this. Thx,