[gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here

2010-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 11:21:35AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: snip Unpacking source... Unpacking DBD-mysql-4.013.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3/work Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3/work

[gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here

2010-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org writes: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:52:30 -0600 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. object version 1.609 does not match $::VERSION %_ at /usr/lib

[gentoo-user] Re: Filesystem corruption - reiserfs? - won't boot, filesystem couldn't be fixed :(

2010-03-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: In my most recent case what looked like a simple disk corruption problem was really a prelude to the drive just plain going bad. Have you tried smartctl to see what it says about the drive at this point? Sorry to butt in here... is that tool,

[gentoo-user] Is the move perl-5.10 involved here

2010-03-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm having trouble when revdep-rebuild tries to emerge dev-perl/DBD-mysql I can't really make much sense of the output but I see it involves scripting from perl-5.8.8 I've included the tail of the emerge below, and below that the output of emerge --info =dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3 as suggested

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-03-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Monday 01 March 2010 06:16:09 Harry Putnam wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: FWIW, Solaris syslogd is like other basic tools on Solaris: standards compliant in that it caters for the lowest common denominator

[gentoo-user] about the vga clause on kernel line of grub.conf

2010-03-02 Thread Harry Putnam
For quite a long time I've been using things like: vga=0x31A On the kernel line in grub.conf Its a hexidecimal system drawn info in this (partial) chart I found somewhere in the kernel documentation long ago. ## 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 ## 256 0x301 0x303 0x305

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: FWIW, Solaris syslogd is like other basic tools on Solaris: standards compliant in that it caters for the lowest common denominator that comprises Unix. Which is to say, almost always useless for real work. A little turn towards OT: so what are

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 26 February 2010 23:44:03 Harry Putnam wrote: Where I'm weak is the part where the custom script checks if the daemon is running, before the script itself starts. That part would need to be something pretty fool proof... maybe just grep

[gentoo-user] aclocal failing on all emerges

2010-02-27 Thread Harry Putnam
I've run into something here on an OS that was installed from scratch only a week or so ago. emerge -vuDNp world shows only 8 pkgs (on a todays sync). But none of them will install even with --skipfirst and --keep-going All fail when aclocal is trotted out. I don't see recent threads here

[gentoo-user] [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Harry Putnam
ALERT [ This is a slightly rewritten repost from `gmane.[...].perl.beginners', where it got no responses] ---- ---=--- - My subject line is probably not really that good at describing what I want advice on but here it is: I've setup one

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Then tap into the fifo with a perl script that is written to be able to sort and write the syslog output according to various regex that may be part of startup cmd or fed in later during the running script. I don't know rsyslog at all (I use

[gentoo-user] any advantage to dbus or hal on minimal system

2010-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
On a non-x system, is there any advantage to having dbus and hal installed? I'm bring a formally X enabled system down to a hardcore console only log server. Don't now enough about either hal or dbus to know if they need to be removed?

[gentoo-user] Re: How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: well, cfg-update keeps a backup. It detects manual edits and try to resolve conflicts resulting from that automatically. Which works surprisingly well. If Volker gave me that same advice long ago, I've used cfg-update ever since. Its

[gentoo-user] How to get text only console on livecd install

2010-02-19 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I force a text only console when installing from live cd? (This is the most recent livecd for x86 on www.gentoo.org) There appears only gentoo or gentoo-nofb...as boot choices and either of those ends in a gui. I always find it takes me 10 minutes to find a terminal once the gui comes

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get text only console on livecd install

2010-02-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Unless it has changed, it is gentoo nox at the prompt. Whatever option you want to use, you have to put the gentoo first. At least it Yup, sorry for missing it in the options (F7). Iain B. nailed right off the bat.

[gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-19 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm currently rsyncing an OS (new gentoo install) from one vmware disk to a newly created one. I know not to copy /proc but not sure about /dev. Looking at an unbooted OS disk with an install on it... I see /dev/ is populated (with no boot up), but I recall seeing things during boot like

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of Photo gallery tools

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au writes: On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:14 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if anyone here can speak on the various photo and gallery generating tools available on linux. I have photos on smugmug.com and wondered if there is do it yourself tools

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of Photo gallery tools

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Thursday 18 February 2010 01:35:12 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:14 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if anyone here can speak on the various photo and gallery generating tools available on linux. I have photos on smugmug.com

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of Photo gallery tools

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: never tried smugmug and don't know what your requirements are, but I push JAlbum. You can create some pretty good looking albums and run them from CD / HD / webserver (I especially like the

[gentoo-user] strange one with gentoo guest in vmware

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm trying to get a gentoo guest running in vmware app on windowsxp. I just installed a prebuilt appliance (gentoo 2008) and am now updating it. I got the kernel rebuilt and updated to 2.6.32-r5 and rebooted into that. I now have all uppercase at the cmdline. The actual keyboard is not in

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of Photo gallery tools

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
is only done if the requested size doesn't exist yet, eg. it will only do it once (unless you clear the derivatives folder ;) ) Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:53:15 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: If you want to host it yourself, there's Gallery. It too has plenty

[gentoo-user] Re: strange one with gentoo guest in vmware

2010-02-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I'm trying to get a gentoo guest running in vmware app on windowsxp. I just installed a prebuilt appliance (gentoo 2008) and am now updating it. I got the kernel rebuilt and updated to 2.6.32-r5 and rebooted into that. I now have all uppercase

[gentoo-user] Re: log messages

2010-02-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Remote logging and just leave it till the machine freezes again will hopefully give you the useful logs you need to identify the problem. To save disk space you can configure logrotate on the remote logger to delete the previous days stuff - you

[gentoo-user] [OT] Choice of Photo gallery tools

2010-02-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I wondered if anyone here can speak on the various photo and gallery generating tools available on linux. I have photos on smugmug.com and wondered if there is do it yourself tools that come anywhere close the sophisticated handling they do.

[gentoo-user] log messages

2010-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Hundreds, maybe thousands of lines like this (wrapped for mail): Feb 16 09:38:47 reader kernel: [162289.090685] usb 4-2.1:1.1: uevent Feb 16 09:38:48 reader kernel: [162289.467065] hdc: status error: status=0x00 { } Feb 16 09:38:48 reader kernel: [162289.467071] hdc: possibly failed

[gentoo-user] Re: log messages

2010-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 17 February 2010 00:36:42 Harry Putnam wrote: Hundreds, maybe thousands of lines like this (wrapped for mail): Feb 16 09:38:47 reader kernel: [162289.090685] usb 4-2.1:1.1: uevent Feb 16 09:38:48 reader kernel: [162289.467065

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!

2010-02-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: Possibly you installed something other than xfce4-meta? firefly ~ # emerge -ep xfce4-meta | grep xfce | grep utils [ebuild R ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 firefly ~ # I'm just seconding fireflys' report. I suspect xfce4 expects you to be starting

[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Leon Feng rainofch...@gmail.com writes: [...] I'm running ~x86 on everything and latest version of gentoolkit (I don't have gentoolkit-dev installed) I've emerged lafilefixer (thanks Steve) and ran lafilefixer --justfixit Then ran revdep-rebuild again it still finds broken

[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:13:20 +0800, Leon Feng wrote: I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is listed below, anyone has a solution? Are you also

[gentoo-user] Re: binutils broken revdep-rebuild

2010-02-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Mariusz Ceier mce...@gmail.com writes: But if I am reading revdep-rebuild output correctly, it means that your binutils is compiled to be linked against that library. But the library cannot be found by revdep-rebuild. Hence the error. W libiberty.a comes from binutils. Looking at Stefan

[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 03 February 2010 23:45:00 Harry Putnam wrote: After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing

[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-03 Thread Harry Putnam
After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing. Anyone seen something similar or have an idea what might be the problem?

[gentoo-user] Re: Smart Database

2010-01-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Jon Hardcastle jd_hardcas...@yahoo.com writes: Hi guys, I want to update my gentoo install to use the latest trunk version of the smartmontools drive database. Does anyone have any gentoo orientated guidance here? I have spoken to the chaps there and they say to run configure with

[gentoo-user] Re: Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: On Tuesday 19 January 2010 09:03:57 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:21:18 -0600, Dale wrote: I usually just do softlevel=single or that other one I got wrote down here somewhere. That turns off almost everything, whereas

[gentoo-user] Re: Smart Database

2010-01-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Jon Hardcastle jd_hardcas...@yahoo.com writes: Thanks for your input! Wow that is alot more complicated that I had hoped! I am already using the masked version of Smartmontools but the 5.39 version does not include 1 of the HDD I use and as I have got a whole load more of that exact model

[gentoo-user] Re: Devicekit - especially just for Dale

2010-01-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: See? I don't have to remember any options, I just key up or down to the config I want. Easy. Nice... thanks

[gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 01/16/2010 01:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: I hadn't done a full reinstall for a good while, long enough that I missed out on whateve was said about the change over from using /etc/X11/xorg.conf to control the X display to whatever does it now. So my first

[gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
pk pete...@coolmail.se writes: Harry Putnam wrote: For now, with hal, with dbus, assuming no xorg.conf... where are custom settings regarding the X session done? Under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/... or you could continue to use the old xorg.conf since that will override what's in ...xorg.conf.d

[gentoo-user] [OT] Something like Webresearch for linux

2010-01-18 Thread Harry Putnam
I wondered if anyone here knows of a linux tool that is similar to webresearch: http://www.macropool.de/en/products/webresearch/index.html Its one of those clip and save from the internet (or whole pages) kind of things that allows you to make a hierarchy of folders and has some useful search

[gentoo-user] Re: About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-17 Thread Harry Putnam
pk pete...@coolmail.se writes: Harry Putnam wrote: So, where would I make such a setting in the new arrangement?... I suspect I could force a return to xorg.conf... but would sooner understand how to utilize the new proceedure. xorg.conf still works fine with the latest incarnations

[gentoo-user] Re: What role does dev-libs/boost play with encfs?

2010-01-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: If you *really* want to know what encfs uses Boost for you could, of course, examine the source :) But you really only need to know that it's a big C++ library that's used by encfs. Go grab a coffee or do a load of laundry or something. Good

[gentoo-user] Accesssing gentoo repostitories

2010-01-16 Thread Harry Putnam
In the course of a full reinstall I've run into several packages that appear not to be findable... watching emerge race all over the glob looking for certain packages...there seems to be some problem with what portage is looking for and pushing those packages out to repos. I've already forgotten

[gentoo-user] Re: Accesssing gentoo repostitories

2010-01-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: In the course of a full reinstall I've run into several packages that appear not to be findable... watching emerge race all over the glob looking for certain packages...there seems to be some problem with what portage is looking for and pushing those

[gentoo-user] About the change from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2010-01-16 Thread Harry Putnam
I hadn't done a full reinstall for a good while, long enough that I missed out on whateve was said about the change over from using /etc/X11/xorg.conf to control the X display to whatever does it now. So my first question is what does do it?.. I have a nice desktop but no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

[gentoo-user] Re: Freeze up during X session

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de writes: To exclude a software problem, try booting from a SystemRescue-CD http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page It's Gentoo based and sports an X-Server. Thanks for the recue disk tip. That are the problems that makes one crazy! Well put...

[gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of anything better. I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when I test what all gets installed with: emerge -vp xfce4-meta I notice that xorg-x11 is

[gentoo-user] Re: file system failure after emerge -DuN @system

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de writes: Does the machine run well enough that you can reinstall both glibc and udev again? Not right now. After the boot complains that the super block isn't right the disk is getting mounted read only. I cannot even edit a file with vi. Try

[gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
[Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have made it to the mail/news server] Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of anything better. I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did

[gentoo-user] Re: What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: On Friday 15 January 2010 20:43:32 Harry Putnam wrote: [Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have made it to the mail/news server] Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of anything

[gentoo-user] What role does dev-libs/boost play with encfs?

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm probably way behind the eightball asking something like this, but I'm wondering what role `dev-libs/boost' plays with encfs. The home page indicates its something of a helper application for using cpp++ programming language and applications. The reason I ask is that it appears to be up there

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:27:32 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Then use rsync instead of tar, then you can mount the remote filesystem using sshfs and encfs to read individual files. It's a little slow as you are layering two FUSE filesystems, but quicker

[gentoo-user] Freeze up during X session

2010-01-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm experiencing a problem where during an X session the machine inexplicably freezes up... networking along with mouse keyboard etc. No access is then possible via ssh or any other way other than a hard reboot. I've attempted to debug the problem by first searching the logs. But not finding

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:09:03 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Why not just tar up the underlying encfs partition? The data is already encrypted, what's the point of decrypting it to encrypt it again? That way you don't need to rely on any encryption

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:12:29 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I have an encfs encrpted partition on my home machine.. However I want a back up offsite. The encrypted partition would be mounted, the contents tarred/gzipped, mcrypt'ed on home machine

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:32:07 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I want to encrypt a directory heirarchy on a remote machine where I don't have root. I can use either an openbsd, or gentoo remote. Provided the kernel has ecrypt support and the userspace

[gentoo-user] Re: rsync reverts to old file versions

2010-01-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com writes: rsync -vr --inplace --delete /path/to/music/ gr...@192.168.1.2:/path/to/music what OSs' are the hosts? I've had that happen a time or two when the source host was a windows machine, having something to do with the way windows handles permissions and dates.

[gentoo-user] [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-01 Thread Harry Putnam
I want to encrypt a directory heirarchy on a remote machine where I don't have root. I can use either an openbsd, or gentoo remote.

[gentoo-user] [OT apache] No cgi scripts work now

2009-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
This machine was my local lan httpd server, but then I switched that functionality to an opensolaris machine... due to problems with a recent osol build I switched back temporarily. Meantime I must have allowed a new config to get setup ... maybe thru careless allowing of new conf files.

[gentoo-user] [lame logrotate Q]

2009-12-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone show me how to write a logrotate rule that will rotate on either size or age? I use some very simple scripting for yrs but don't really see how to rotate on more than one condition. I'd like to rotate a certain log weekly or over 7000k and keep no more than 12 rotations for whatever

[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net writes: On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes: As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the info than first pulling

[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. sys-apps/lshw Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting. It gives as good as dmidecode

[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes: As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some

[gentoo-user] How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-29 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. Various hardware reporting tools such as uhinv and syscriptor do not give that information (far as I can tell). In fact syscriptor cannot even report pci info and gives the message `cannot open /proc/pci'

[gentoo-user] OS inaccessable after brief uptime in X

2009-11-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I keep having a problem where the OS becomes inaccessable after running in X for a while. I haven't noticed a time pattern yet but it doesn't take long sometimes. Today I started from an OFF machine, booted up, started X did a few things A few minutes later I attempted to login via ssh from a

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: configuring is easy. enable the hardware you have. disable the hardware you don't have. read the help to all options that are default on - do you really need it? Really? read the help to all options that are off but might be usefull

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread. I'm with you Stroller. Although I do have to admit

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
daid kahl daid...@gmail.com writes: 2009/11/4 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com: I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always been a problem for me.  I don't remember ever not having a problem, in 10+ yrs.. Many people here seem to find it completely easy... not me

[gentoo-user] [OT] Homebuilt Mobo bundles

2009-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
come-on and the price is like that all over. Is there anyone here who is willing to correspond with me privately about this project? Maybe someone who can vouch for some of the more recent equipment out there. Since gmane obfuscates the email address on From line here it is: Harry Putnam rea

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Homebuilt Mobo bundles

2009-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: One caution there -- newer computer hardware demands a great deal of power, and older power supplies may not be up to the task. Don't try to squeak by with a wimpy power supply. I thought maybe a mobo bundle would be a good starting place... I've been

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
John H. Moe john...@optusnet.com.au writes: I stopped using that option in my systems, as there is now a AHCI SATA option to use instead. It appears CONFIG_ATA_SFF (which CONFIG_ATA_PIIX requires) is deprecated. From the help on it: Do you notice some kind of difference from switching?

[gentoo-user] fsck date problem during boot

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been fiddling with a new kernel, and have had several occasions to reboot lately. If I mounted /boot to cp the new kernel etc over, I have a problem on reboot for sure. Somehow the date of last fsck on /boot is seen as `in the future' so fsck fails on /dev/had1 (/boot). Which means nearly

[gentoo-user] Another angle on hal/xorg thread

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I didn't want to derail the ongoing thread about hal/xorg with this question there. Far as I remember I haven't done anything special concerning hal but at some point hal disappeared. And is not on my system anymore. I've always used and /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for starting X. What I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org writes: The 'make' man page wouldn't know anything about the kernel's makefile. You want the README file that's included in the top of the kernel source folder. That file says, among other things: make oldconfig Default all questions based on the contents

[gentoo-user] Re: Another angle on hal/xorg thread

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org writes: Strange. Is hal still in your USE flags? It is not really neded, but I think it's nice to have - maybe not for x.org, but for other things like automounting devices. Here's the list of my packages that need HAL: I didn't tell quite all of it. Hal

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: If it still won't work, you can also post your kernel config and the output of lspci -vv here and somebody will find out what's wrong/missing. Good input thanks. I did get it working. It was an IDE selection I missed. From the lspci -vv

[gentoo-user] Re: fsck date problem during boot

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 4 Nov 2009, at 15:45, Harry Putnam wrote: ... Somehow the date of last fsck on /boot is seen as `in the future' so fsck fails on /dev/had1 (/boot). The first thing I would want to check is the motherboard battery. Is the time correct

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: your drivers for the ide disks have to be built INTO THE KERNEL! NOT MODULES. Is that really a hard rule? I've done it both ways successfully in the past. And in fact, I didn't record my first builds on this kernel but I'm pretty sure my

[gentoo-user] Re: new version of gcc

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:03:24 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Turns out I have bigger problems. ( I didn't upgrade gcc) but the things I did upgrad in upgrade system followed by upgrade world. Have messed up mouse and keyboard in X. Did you follow

[gentoo-user] kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not having a problem, in 10+ yrs.. Many people here seem to find it completely easy... not me. So I'm back in the soup. [I hope what I try to layout below is not overly confusing]

[gentoo-user] Re: new version of gcc

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Nice... good advice all around. Thanks posters. Turns out I have bigger problems. ( I didn't upgrade gcc) but the things I did upgrad in upgrade system followed by upgrade world. Have messed up mouse and keyboard in X. But even that, is a lesser problem than my kernel build ends up in a kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: There's no reason to use menuconfig after running oldconfig, If your old kernel was using all of the hardware, then the new kernel should, too, just with oldconfig. I don't know about that. I found a whole lot of stuff different when I ran menuconfig and

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
hamilton hamil...@pobox.com writes: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:02:18 -0800, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2009 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not having a problem, in 10

[gentoo-user] Re: When masked pkg not in [...]profiles/package.mask, where is it

2009-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: failing that, look in /etc/portage/package.mask* Sure enough... I masked it.. but like Dick Cheney, I don't recall it. Ahh the joys of senility

[gentoo-user] Re: libsxlt and aclocal/autoconf failing during emerge

2009-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de writes: Wait, but those are small 'm's. That means they must have been masked manually. As Alan McKinnon mentioned in your other thread (When masked pkg not in [...]profiles/package.mask, where is it), you might have an entry in /etc/portage/package.mask. My

[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild vs. @preserved-rebuild

2009-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: You read the message, run @preserved-rebuild and x now links to the new y library. When everything in @preserved-rebuild has been rebuilt, portage knows that now nothing links to the old y library, and removes it. Alan, I haven't followed the

[gentoo-user] new version of gcc

2009-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
I noticed I've been masking gcc beyond version 4.3.2-r3, and have forgotten why I had it masked. I'm updating world right now, and wondered if I were to move up to most recent gcc (4.4.2), which would be a 5 version jump, what I could expect in the way of problems. Would I need to re-emerge just

[gentoo-user] Re: new version of gcc

2009-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: Harry asked: Would I need to re-emerge just about everything? Volker answered: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gentoo+gcc+upgrade+guidel=1 Quoted from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml , | To be completely safe that your

[gentoo-user] Re: libsxlt and aclocal/autoconf failing during emerge

2009-11-01 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 10/31/2009 07:05 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: ... /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.26/temp/autoconf.out * autoconf * * PWD: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.26/work/libxslt-1.1.26 * autoconf configure.in:120: error: possibly

[gentoo-user] When masked pkg not in [...]profiles/package.mask, where is it

2009-11-01 Thread Harry Putnam
When a package comes up as masked in an eix search, they are usually found in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, but if a particular masked package is not listed there... where else would it be. I see libtool is masked above version 1.5.26-r1, but is not in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask...

[gentoo-user] video capture from min-dv... kernel params

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
My windowsXP video editing machine where I use various adobe tools to capture and edit video, has lost use of the ohci ports, and seemingly the usb ports as well. I've been seeing problems with those inputs for a while and today, finally the machine simply is not `seeing' the video cam attached

[gentoo-user] Kernel upgrading and linux symlink

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Looking at the kernel upgrade pages at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml Its a bit confusing about the symlink creation. I've wondered about it a few times. At the top, you're told how to get the sources and then a discussion of the symlink follows. It appears you are

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrading and linux symlink

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: The link is created only if you have the symlink USE flag enabled. Also, Gentoo requires that the [...] symbolic link points to the sources of the kernel you are running is not entirely correct. It is required only when you want to build something

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrading and linux symlink

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Nikos is being kind to the document writers :-) Thanks for saving me from the Dunce cap...hehe. But I might yet acquire full rights to it.. So, is the symlink not really necessary? Doe something look at /usr/src/linux for files? For example, if

[gentoo-user] More about hal

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
When I noticed the thread here about `hal' that started a while back it caused me enough curiousity that i ran eix -Ic ^hal$ but found I have no `hal' installed. I have keep up with updates somewhat better than usual the last few months but don't remember when hal went away... I do remember

[gentoo-user] libsxlt and aclocal/autoconf failing during emerge

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone tell from the tail of emerge -vuD system what the trouble is with aclocal/autoconf and libxslt. First it failed on aclocal... I re-emerged emerge -v sys-devel/aclocal-wrapper Tried again and it failed on autoconf emerge -v sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper But that didn't help it ...

[gentoo-user] Re: libsxlt and aclocal/autoconf failing during emerge

2009-10-31 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 10/31/2009 06:03 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone tell from the tail of emerge -vuD system what the trouble is with aclocal/autoconf and libxslt. ... * Failed Running autoconf ! * * Include in your bugreport the contents of: * /var/tmp/portage/dev

[gentoo-user] Re: public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com writes: [...] So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an email address? Yes, and I know of at least one that will work for you. If you have a newsguy mail account, newsguy's smtp servers will allow you to connect regardless of your

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org writes: Harry Putnam wrote: In fact what does `developer' buy you? Among other things, it enables I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING, which tells you the expected audience :). Seriously, the developer profiles are mainly for Gentoo Devs, people who are going to be doing

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you? x86/10.0 gives you a baseline for that release x86/10.0/desktop|developer|server give you a profile more suited (tweaked) for that kind of usage. [...] Nice.. thanks I see I

[gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-26 Thread Harry Putnam
My profile has been ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of ln -sf

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