Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 13:08 +0200, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: > > > > It's a Go package though, so it will quietly install a mountain a > > random outdated static libraries from github. > > What? No, it will not. Those dependencies are absolutely not installed, > they are only used for building & l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2024-10-25 00:47:27, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > Try net-dns/doggo[2] > > Cool, and it doens't want to install 4 other new packages like > bind-tools does. [OK, two are just account/group packages, so it's > not quite as bad as it sounds.] It's a Go package though, so it will quietly install

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2024-09-24 21:42:23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > > Please do not disable the USE=ipv6, as that is *utterly* insane. It also > does approximately nothing. In packages which support this USE flag, > which is rare, it causes the code to use old, untested APIs which only > support ipv4, rather than new,

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 22:08 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > But the unused code still gets built in, doesn't it? That's a somewhat > un-gentoo like situation. > It depends on the language, but in a compiled language, not usually. Regardless: if you aren't a fan of widespread changes to global

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4

2024-09-09 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 21:33 -0300, João Matos wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). It > requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and found > this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184 TIL that we have a twenty-year-old

Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping world rebuild with profile 23.0 upgrade?

2024-06-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 17:05 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > So what happens if I skip the very last step in the profile 23.0 upgrade > guide, which is: > > 6. Rebuild world: > emerge --ask --emptytree @world > > Is this just a security concern due to the new hardening flags, or are > ther

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2024-05-22 at 09:40 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Yes, this is during installation. > I did type: > mount --rbind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev > I was outside of chroot at the time but that's all I did with dev before > running emerge-webrsync. > Ok, that was my one guess. I'm out of ideas, sorry

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
Is this during install? Maybe forgot to bind-mount /dev from the real system into your chroot?

Re: [gentoo-user] Program shutting down - where is its status held?

2024-04-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 16:09 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 4 April 2024 10:12:23 BST I wrote: > > > Some of my machines run BOINC, which I want to stop while doing my sync & > > update. For some reason, '/etc/init.d/boinc stop' often takes exactly 60s to > > complete instead of its no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 01:32 +0300, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: > https://piaille.fr/@zeno/112185928685603910 > > There's an ENV var you can set that is a kill switch for the whole thing :) > For the part that we found :) The author of the backdoor had commit access to the upstream repository fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 18:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > The old version will show up as liblzma.so.5.6.1. Restart anything that > uses it. Or liblzma.so.5.6.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 12:04 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It is not necessary to rebuild anything, unless you're doing something > so unusual that you'd already know the answer to the question. > You should probably reboot afterwards though. For a more fine-grained approach, you can check for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-12-28 23:00:36, stefan1 wrote: > Should I at least file bugs about those packages? > Surely there is no reason to artificially limit the python version in > ::gentoo? Yes, especially if the package has a test suite that passes under python-3.12. Most python packages are community-main

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

2023-12-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2023-12-28 at 18:38 +, stefan1 wrote: > > Anyway, at least I don't have many ebuilds to patch to support python > 3.12. If you're comfortable with git, you could switch your ::gentoo repo to a git checkout and edit/commit your changes there. Then when you git pull/rebase, you'll

Re: [gentoo-user] hardened vs desktop

2023-11-13 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2023-11-13 at 11:19 +0100, ralfconn wrote: > > It seems to me easier to add these to the desktop rather the other way > round. Any gotcha's I am missing? > There are a few other things in profiles/features/hardened that you should copy -- particularly the gcc USE flags -- but basically,

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

2023-11-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote: > Hi all. > > I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack > on my sound card. I think this happened since the last major reboot > after my world update. The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of

Re: [gentoo-user] gradle as source? How safe are overlays?

2023-10-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 21:29 +0200, n952162 wrote: > Why might it only be in an overlay? Because it bundles 100+ other packages. That is inherently a security risk, although plenty of people use Windows and install all of their software that way and are perfectly happy on those days of the year whe

Re: [gentoo-user] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.5-r600 depclean wants to remove

2023-09-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 08:07 -0400, John Covici wrote: > HI. This was a package installed on my last world update, but now > depclean wants to remove the package. Isn't it pulled in by gnome or > other packages? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > The weird -r410 and -r600 versions of

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-db/mysql fails to build, more than one version.

2023-09-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 09:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Anyone else having this?  Is this mysql or is something else causing > this and mysql is just a symptom?  Given two versions are failing to > build, is kinda interesting.  https://bugs.gentoo.org/912797

Re: [gentoo-user] Jekyll on Gentoo using containers

2023-08-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2023-08-31 at 14:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I remember replying to this, but I can't find the reply anywhere. Did it get > to > the list? I don't think so.

Re: [gentoo-user] Jekyll on Gentoo using containers

2023-08-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2023-08-30 at 11:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Can you point me to that file (privately if you prefer)? I've had a look > around > and it doesn't reveal itself. https://github.com/gentoo-ev/www.gentoo.de/blob/master/Dockerfile > > > It builds a static site so you can open the r

Re: [gentoo-user] Jekyll on Gentoo using containers

2023-08-29 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2023-08-29 at 15:31 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm trying to set a container up to run jekyll to build a blog, following a > suggestion at the bottom of https://github.com/gentoo-ev/www.gentoo.de. > This is my first foray into containers. The containers don't add anyth

Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging dev-php/xdebug

2023-08-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2023-08-28 at 11:21 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2023-08-28 at 15:04 +0200, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > dev-lang/php:7.4 is also masked, so I assume this is due to be  > > removed soon. > > 7.X is EOL upstream as of 9 months ago, hence the mask. > > It was acknowledged in the mask com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install Ruby bindings in an ebuild

2023-04-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 22:15 +0200, Ralph Seichter wrote: > > Hm. While that sounds useful for "full Ruby" ebuilds, I don't see how to > circumvent the impact for the particular ebuild I am trying to extend, > other than overriding S in src_compile() etc. > > The build needs to create a C shared l

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install Ruby bindings in an ebuild

2023-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 09:16 +0200, Ralph Seichter wrote: > > I tried what you suggested. However, inheriting from ruby-ng.eclass > introduces an odd problem: For some reason unknown to me, "${S}" no > longer matches the default value of "${WORKDIR}/${P}", but only what I'd > expect in "${WORKDIR}"

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install Ruby bindings in an ebuild

2023-04-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-04-19 01:08:23, Ralph Seichter wrote: > I need to install Ruby bindings (something.so) during an ebuild, > specifically into the /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/3.0.0/x86_64-linux > directory. Hey Ralph. I'm not an expert on the ruby eclasses, but they work more or less like the python ones, i

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-lang/php - making binary

2023-04-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2023-04-15 at 21:29 -0400, jul...@jroy.ca wrote: > > You can keep a copy of the ebuild so even if it's removed from portage > you will be able to install it. > > Even without a copy, you will be able to retrieve it from git history. This is a better idea. I'll warn you though, PHP upstr

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting shell globs to regular expressions

2023-04-13 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2023-04-13 at 18:27 +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > does anybody know about some command to convert shell globs (shell pat- > terns) into regular expressions? > What exactly are you trying to do? This sounds like an XY problem (https://xyproblem.info/).

Re: [gentoo-user] mpv no longer compiles

2023-03-17 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2023-03-17 at 12:21 +, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > > > I don't think this should be necessary. The docutils ebuild should > take care of this. If it doesn't there is a bug in docutils or maybe > the mpv ebuild should call the py script directly. > The ebuilds themselves don't really t

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > managed differently. > Should be less, since you already have portage installed but not necessarily esel

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby, Ragel, and Colm

2022-12-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 18:49 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > I hesitate to open a new Gentoo Bugzilla bug because it might not be a real > bug - > but what do I have to do on my new system that ruby (and all dependencies) can > be installed? > > Thanks in advance, > You shouldn't be afraid to

Re: [gentoo-user] Change History of linux commands

2022-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 17:47 +0200, tastytea wrote: > > > /usr/bin/test was installed by sys-apps/coreutils If you're using bash, the "test" command is actually built-in to the shell to avoid forking a million processes in every shell script.

Re: [gentoo-user] seems lots of packages no longer in the tree

2022-09-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-09-25 at 10:04 -0400, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I updated the tree yesterday using git. Now, in this mornings > batch of announcements, I am finding lots of packages no longer in the > tree -- one of them is app-admin/logcheck . Another is rxvt. Now, I > don't use these packages, bu

Re: [gentoo-user] openvpn experience, anyone?

2022-09-18 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-09-18 at 09:26 +0200, n952162 wrote: > > Then, for some reason (licensing?), we were switched to openvpn, which > works for xfreerdp but not for ssh. > > I don't have control over the institution's firewall (but I do have for > the host itself) > Is the machine that you're trying t

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

2022-05-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 20:22 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > --deep world from installing it again. > How to do this ? > 1. Switch away from Mozilla products. Evolution is a great Thunderbird alternative, and Epiphany is a passabl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:39 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Have you tried using dev-lang/rust-bin? > No, I avoid rust mainly for the security problems. The compilation time saved is just a bonus.

Re: [gentoo-user] Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 08:24 -0700, cal wrote: > > Do you have any other (more powerful) machines at home that you could > set up as a distcc cluster? My desktop is only slightly more powerful. I don't really mind the webkit-gtk build time since it's shared between epiphany and evolution. I just r

Re: [gentoo-user] Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:41 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Clever indeed, but here: > > gnome-base/librsvg-2.52.6 pulled in by: > app-text/djvu-3.5.28-r1 requires gnome-base/librsvg > media-gfx/gimp-2.10.30 requires >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.6:2 > media-gfx/imagemagick-7.1.0.13 re

Re: [gentoo-user] Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 14:31 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Firefox and Rust have -bin packages - not so lucky with LLVM and > webkit-gtk. > Everything has a -bin package if you're willing to trade the security, configurability, and performance that you get from a source build: https://gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-user] Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:49 +0300, Dex Conner wrote: > Hi everyone, > > So I've found a Thinkpad X200 online and I'm thinking of buying it for > libreboot purposes. Do you think the P8600 cpu can handle all the > compiling on gentoo? For the record, I don't have any of the "big stuff" > like KDE,

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 12:57 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > But --changed-use slows things down a lot, so you also don't want to > use it *every* time. > Whoops, I mean --changed-deps.

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 16:42 +0100, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > So for people like me, neither being a developer nor managing a local > server for binary packages (thanks Andreas for pointing out this special > case), "--changed-deps" really is an option not to be used. > > Case finally closed

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 14:26 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It's not a relic, it's a fairly recent addition. It's a bit of a belt and > braces approach which basically says "rebuild everything that might just > possibly, maybe, in some circumstances have some sort of effect". > > It's really a

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 00:12 +0200, j...@clusters.gr wrote: > Pardon me, but how would using --nodeps be a wise choice to rebuild > your @world? Straightaway, it isn't. But if you've already computed the list of packages to be emerged, and the order in which to emerge them, then emerging those one

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 19:51 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Shouldn't --keep-going have kicked in there and restarted the update? > You'd think, but --keep-going tries to recompute dependencies and if the original emerge crashes in an inconsistent state, that often seems to push the calculation

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 15:18 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > So basically, dont-stop would update everything it can. I half-jokingly called this "emerge --i-dont-care" in 2012: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.gentoo.user/c/wE2GnF7RlnY There are (still) a lot of people who want it. Last night I

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing keyword. Overlay question too, maybe.

2022-02-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2022-02-19 at 10:20 -0600, Dale wrote: > > Thanks to both for the info.  Looks to me like they would test these > packages in a local overlay first then move when major arches are > ready.  To each his/her own.  I was hoping to use the more recent > version and not have to update for a whi

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing keyword. Overlay question too, maybe.

2022-02-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2022-02-19 at 09:54 -0600, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm just going to point to the gentoo page for this but I'd like to know > why something is in the tree if it is not available to anyone due to > missing keywords.  > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-office/libreoffice Probabl

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config thingy, "make menuconfig"

2022-01-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 22:38 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Dear all, > I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel. > This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig" > builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in > alphabetical o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: urxvt asking for confirmation when pasting

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2022-01-14 at 16:53 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-01-14, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > urxvt has suddenly started prompting for confimation when pasting text > > by clicking the middle mouse button. This is excruciatingly > > annoying. I don't see any relevent X resources when I do '

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug in run-crons?

2021-12-13 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 22:38 +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well I *could* disable run-crons altogether and add entries to fcron’s own > crontab which would run those scripts in /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,...} > instead. > > However, I like predictable times at which those jobs will run. Especi

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug in run-crons?

2021-12-13 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 22:19 +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > For the record: The checks in run-crons that I referred to earlier are > actually more for those cases in which the machine was powered off for a > while in order to restore cron completeness as early as possible after boot. > The

Re: [gentoo-user] script help - removing newlines

2021-12-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2021-12-08 17:15:43, Adam Carter wrote: > > but sometimes there are newline characters in the comment field; > > property "something" > > comment "something > > something else > > a third thing" > > I want to replace any newlines between 'comment "' and the next '"' with > spaces so the wh

Re: [gentoo-user] php different version

2021-10-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2021-10-21 00:53:55, zca...@gmail.com wrote: > > 1 day, 1 emerge --sync, 1 update later: php-7.4 is additionally > installed. for a php application i would expect that 1 php version is > enough. but depending on the use flag this is not the case for > nextcloud and roundcube, 2 versions are ins

Re: [gentoo-user] php different version

2021-10-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2021-10-20 19:23:09, zca...@gmail.com wrote: > > when i install nextcloud it also installs php-7.3.31 and php-7.4.24, > this is probably due to dev-php/imagick-3.5.1 > PHP is slotted, so it's not too unusual for multiple versions to be installed at the same time. An "emerge --depclean" may lat

Re: [gentoo-user] MEGA sync problems

2021-10-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2021-10-08 at 14:33 -0600, Skippy wrote: > > I've been informed that 4.5.3 is failing because it needs <=ffmpeg-3.4. > > That brings me to how to install such a version of ffmpeg. My limited > understanding of slots tells me this should be possible, but I've yet to > find anything expla

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 15:56 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > > Well, this was the suggested way to go, see > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-05-05-python3-9.html It was only suggested for a period of about three weeks: We are planning to switch the default Python target of Gentoo sy

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 14:50 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to update a system that is about 1 year old. I have python3.7 > and python 3.8 installed, 3.7 is the default. After updating the repo, > it was suggested to update portage first (probably useful to support > new EAPI version

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync keeps failing

2021-08-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-08-02 at 13:10 +0200, n952162 wrote: > > > > I have this problem every month.  Why does it fail?  Is it just a > timeout because my network is slow?  Can that be tweaked? > I'm not really sure. I've seen it fail in the past due to bad memory or a dying hard drive, but it also "just

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync keeps failing

2021-08-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2021-08-02 09:20:19, n952162 wrote: > On 8/1/21 8:32 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-08-01 at 17:32 +0200, n952162 wrote: > >>  * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine > >> ...!!! Manifest verification failed: > >&g

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync keeps failing

2021-08-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2021-08-01 at 17:32 +0200, n952162 wrote: >  * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine > ...!!! Manifest verification failed: >  Manifest mismatch for metadata/news/Manifest > > I've raised this question before and the only useful answer I got was to > keep try

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-lang/perl:0

2021-07-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 07:08 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Thu, 2021-07-29 at 20:42 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > I'm trying to run an upgrade but I got stuck on perl: > > > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been &

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-lang/perl:0

2021-07-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2021-07-29 at 20:42 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I'm trying to run an upgrade but I got stuck on perl: > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been > pulled > !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: > > dev-lang/perl:0 > Addin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 21:58 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I was thinking more along the lines of a USE flag, as suggested first by > Rich. Add a system-init flag to daemontools, defaulting to off, and have > the virtual depend on daemontools[system-init] and the problem goes away > with the only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 21:18 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Instead of continually beating on portage on this list, which will > achieve nothing more than a minor waste of electrons, you should be > focussing on getting the ebuilds fixed so that portage is no longer given > conflicting or incorrec

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2021-07-25 at 20:52 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 8:39 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > > This is indeed a bug, but not the ones that have been suggested. The > > underlying problem is that the DJB programs (mail-mta/netqmail, but > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
(Replying nowhere in particular) This is indeed a bug, but not the ones that have been suggested. The underlying problem is that the DJB programs (mail-mta/netqmail, but also net-dns/djbdns, for example) require a particular service manager. When OpenRC is installed only as a side effect of being

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-lang/php-7.4.21-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2021-07-17 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 15:13 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On of my system is giving me an error when compiling php > > In file included from /usr/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:812, > from > /var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/php-7.4.21-r1/work/sapis-build/cli/ext/libxml/libxml.

Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates

2021-06-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 15:25 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > > The proper way configure certificates is: > > 1) Create a key on the local server. > 2) Create a Certificate Signing Request (a.k.a. CSR) which references, > but does not include, the key. > 3) As a CA to sign the CSR. > 4) Use the c

Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates)

2021-06-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:02 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > So what would you recommend for someone in the case Joost cites? I'm in that > position, being a home user of a small network but no registered Internet > name. > A self-signed certificate combined with a browser extension that lets

Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates)

2021-06-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:17 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > It's not that easy to do it with internal-only systems as Let's Encrypt > requires the hostname to be known externally. > And there are plenty of devices you do not want the whole internet to know > about. > And in this situation LetsE

Re: [gentoo-user] IPv4 broken beyond repair

2021-05-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 21:29 +0200, tastytea wrote: > > A good measure against non-targeted spam is a hidden input field with > the name “url”. If the bot put anything in that field, throw it out. And be sure to put a paragraph of (hidden) explanatory text above it so that blind users with screen

Re: [gentoo-user] one machine out of many has nothing to update [RESOVLED]

2021-05-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 17:04 +0200, n952162 wrote: > > > How naive of me.  After 5 tries (average of 25 minutes a pop), it worked. > I am happy to hear my cynicism was not misplaced =)

Re: [gentoo-user] one machine out of many has nothing to update

2021-05-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 07:30 +0200, n952162 wrote: > > > Yes!  It did!  It does, every time!  But why?  I have enough disk space... > I have no idea. I fix it by re-syncing until the error stops. That's how computers work.

Re: [gentoo-user] one machine out of many has nothing to update

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-05-05 at 20:11 +0200, n952162 wrote: > Hello. > > I update several machines every month.  This month, most of the machines > needed to update more than 300 packages.  But one, which isn't any > different than the others, has 0 to update, after running --sync. > > Does anybody have an

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 22:15 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > yea, it was a try to make c++ programs to behave under changing > compiler and library situations. Seems that some such programs > don't want to be built statically so they break whenever some "random" > lib changes. > That's my best

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 12:54 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > # emerge -pv1 dev-lang/R > ... > [ebuild R] dev-lang/R-4.0.4::gentoo USE="... static-libs ..." Thanks, this is really good debugging information. Is that USE=static- libs a global flag on your system? That may explain why your bu

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng misbehaving

2021-04-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 02:02 -0600, Dan Egli wrote: > It's worth a shot. I never completely got boolean logic, so you may be > right. > It depends on an implicit order of operations. Usually "not" has higher precedence than "and" and "or", but personally I wouldn't count on it unless the document

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 18:29 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > So, how much memory does R need to build ? > I have: > > $ free >    totalusedfree shared buff/cache > available > Mem: 6103628 1807560 2631444 146376 1664624 > 310786

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 16:10 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > system call failed: Cannot allocate memory > Segmentation fault Is this a low-memory machine? If so, there's no much you can do here except set a lower number of jobs in MAKEOPTS for the dev-lang/R build: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 00:44 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Michael: > > $ cp -a ... > $ cd ... > $ make -j1 > ... > $ echo $? > 0 > > It builds without failure in that case. > That's (potentially) good news. Can you now try it with the CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS from your `emerge --info`? If

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2021-04-03 at 13:15 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Is there a way to run emerge step by step to find out why it fails ? > No easy way. You can `cp -a` the source/build directories out of /var/tmp/portage and then re-run `make -j`. That should re- start the build more or less where it fa

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC vs SysV init scripts.

2021-03-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2021-03-24 at 15:03 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any pointers on where to start on converting a 10-15 > year old SysV style init script to OpenRC? I'd start with "man openrc-run", and then read the service-script- guide.md that is shipped & installed along with O

Re: [gentoo-user] fail2ban can't find sqlite?

2021-02-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2021-02-06 at 18:46 -0700, Dan Egli wrote: > > At first I thought it was complaining about it's own missing module. But > there's no use flag for sqlite in fail2ban. So then I looked at python > itself. Sure enough, the sqlite use flag was disabled. So I turned it > on and re-emerged p

Re: [gentoo-user] Nodejs overlay

2021-02-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 05:23 -0500, Andrew Udvare wrote: > > > > 1. Nothing is shared between packages so build time and disk > > usage skyrockets. > > This is NodeJS and 99% of stuff is plain JavaScript. Many packages > are tiny. More time will be spent unpacking tiny distfiles and re- > ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Nodejs overlay

2021-01-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2021-01-31 at 18:42 -0500, Andrew Udvare wrote: > > Our best option is to treat Nodejs stuff the way we treat Rust and Go > packages. Pretend Nodejs 'binaries' are 'built' statically and > therefore, grab all the dependencies in the main package ebuild. The only thing a package manager do

Re: [gentoo-user] moving /var/tmp/portage

2021-01-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 1/5/21 5:17 PM, n952162 wrote: I'm thinking about putting the stuff in /var/tmp/portage on another drive and linking with a symlink.  Is there a better way? Using the PORTAGE_TMPDIR variable (man make.conf).

Re: [gentoo-user] could there be a problem with acct-group/lp?

2020-12-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/31/20 2:34 AM, n952162 wrote: cups was already installed.  I considered removing it, but several other things, like ghostscript (!) are dependent on it.  I'm using --keep-going for now.  I suspect a bug in acct-group/lp that will get cleared up. If it's a bug in the acct-user eclass, it

Re: [gentoo-user] sci-electronics/ngspice-27-r1 missing tcl

2020-12-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/19/20 7:41 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: So that means that programs like ngspice won't link with glibc 2.32 or later. The easiest way to fix this is probably to update the version of ngspice available in Gentoo. The latest upstream release is v33, http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/news

Re: [gentoo-user] sci-libs/{amd,camd}-2.4.6/ doc wierdness

2020-12-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/16/20 5:16 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: It will probably, cannot test just now, rust is compiling I'm sorry for your loss. I opened https://bugs.gentoo.org/760408 to track this issue, but we will probably hack around it in the ebuild for now. Our SuiteSparse ebuilds are far behi

Re: [gentoo-user] sci-libs/{amd,camd}-2.4.6/ doc wierdness

2020-12-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/16/20 1:17 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/16/20 12:30 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Both sci-libs/{amd,camd}-2.4.6 gives this error in their build log: ! Package inputenc Error: Unicode character ^^H (U+0008) (inputenc)not set up for use with LaTeX. I can

Re: [gentoo-user] sci-libs/{amd,camd}-2.4.6/ doc wierdness

2020-12-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/16/20 12:30 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Both sci-libs/{amd,camd}-2.4.6 gives this error in their build log: ! Package inputenc Error: Unicode character ^^H (U+0008) (inputenc)not set up for use with LaTeX. I can reproduce this... I'll take a look.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/6/20 11:57 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: Why are you focusing on /tmp and /var/tmp? Because only world-writable directories are the ones which can be exploited unless the tmpfiles.conf author does something malevolent or extremely stupid. This is completely untrue

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/6/20 2:55 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: Dale wrote: It sounds like a rather rare problem. Maybe even only during boot up. It is a non-existent problem on openrc if you clean /tmp and /var/tmp on boot (which you should do if you use opentmp): The purpose of opentmpfiles is to fill these dire

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/4/20 12:02 PM, Dale wrote: So basically, that package would have to start over from scratch to be fixed.  That's not very likely if history means anything. I think the opentmpfiles devs are planning to copy/paste the systemd-tmpfiles C code into opentmpfiles eventually. That will make

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/4/20 1:44 AM, Dale wrote: Will opentmpfiles be fixed at some point or is it true that it can't be fixed?  On -dev, I think I read where one person said it can't be fixed.  In that case, switching is likely a good idea since the insecure package can't be fixed. The answer is a bit compli

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/4/20 5:47 AM, Michael wrote: If sys-apps/opentmpfiles is installed on openrc profiles, will this be depracated and replaced with sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles, or is this something we should do manually ourselves? Only the default is being changed for now, so you should swap them yourself.

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/4/20 3:55 AM, tastytea wrote: From what I could gather, opentmpfiles is only vulnerable when an attacker is able to put a config file into /etc/tmpfiles.d/, so they have to be already root. The exploit does require an entry in /etc/tmpfiles.d, but many packages install perfectly innoce

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/3/20 9:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: There's a full explanation here: http://michael.orlitzky.com/cves/cve-2017-18925.xhtml Just kidding, there were actually two: http://michael.orlitzky.com/cves/cve-2017-18188.xhtml

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/3/20 8:40 PM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I've mentioned I follow -dev to see what is coming around the corner. There is a thread on there about switching tmpfiles packages for security reasons.  I currently have sys-apps/opentmpfiles installed.  I guess that is the default for openrc.  Someone men

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