Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:45 AM Vitor Hugo Nunes dos Santos wrote: > > Your root pool setup doesn't really matter for GRUB compatibility. What's > important is that you have the proper features setup on your boot pool. > That's the one GRUB loads. Sure, and in this case /boot is on my root

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:11 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 04:15:10 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > Now, the problem is that I am using zfs and will not give it up, and > > the version I have been using 0.8.6 is no longer supported in 5.10 > > versions of the kernel. So, I

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:13 AM John Covici wrote: > > So, which image is it exactly and how to boot up to a virtual console, > rather than some kind of gui? It has been a while, but I usually just download their desktop installer. I suspect their server installer would make it easier to get

Re: [gentoo-user] rescue cd for zfs 2.1 or thereabouts

2021-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:13 AM John Covici wrote: > > Well, I cannot find any zfs packages and it does not say even what > kernel version it has -- but the whole point is I do need zfs and it > seems not to be there. > I've also been using the Ubuntu image. It is pretty easy to install zfs on

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

2021-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 7:18 PM antlists wrote: > > On 22/08/2021 22:59, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:32 PM > > wrote: > > [...] > > > > I'll be looking into that, but on some level, why should I be forced to > > go around udev. Can't

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/isodate breaks my emerge because it's at EAPI?

2021-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 2:41 PM n952162 wrote: > > On 8/6/21 8:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:37 AM n952162 wrote: > >> I was complaining, mostly, that isodate had to be the thing that was > >> incompatible with my configuration. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/isodate breaks my emerge because it's at EAPI?

2021-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:37 AM n952162 wrote: > > I was complaining, mostly, that isodate had to be the thing that was > incompatible with my configuration. Maybe there is a unavoidable reason > that that package had to move to the newest EAPI, or maybe it was just a > sense that it's cool to be

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/isodate breaks my emerge because it's at EAPI?

2021-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 2:03 AM n952162 wrote: > > Well, what you say is likely true, but does "old software" really need > to be kept working? Couldn't problems necessarily only be dealt with > in the newest versions? > I think you are misunderstanding what actually went wrong in your

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 11:05 PM William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 31/7/21 9:30 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > I'd love server-grade ARM hardware but it is just so expensive unless > > there is some source out there I'm not aware of. It is crazy that you > > can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 8:41 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 08:12:40AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > Plus it creates other kinds of confusion. Suppose you're measuring > > recording densities in KB/mm^2. Under SI prefixes 1KB/mm^2 equals &

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 8:59 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > I tried using moosefs with a rpi3B in the > mix and it didn't go well once I started adding data - rpi 4's were not > available when I set it up. Pi2/3s only have USB2 as far as I'm aware, and they stick the ethernet port on that USB

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 11:50 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > btw, you're scrubbing over USB? Are you running a raid over USB? Bad > things are likely to happen ... So, USB hosts vary in quality I'm sure, but I've been running USB3 drives on lizardfs for a while now with zero issues. At first I was

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 12:58 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > I am amused in a cynical way at disk manufacturers using decimal values ... > So, the disk manufacturers obviously have marketing motivations. However, IMO the programming community would be well-served to just join basically every

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:50 PM antlists wrote: > > On 30/07/2021 15:29, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Honestly I feel like the whole SMR thing is a missed opportunity, > > mainly because manufacturers decided to use it as a way to save a few > > bucks instead of as a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not)

2021-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 1:14 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > 2. btrfs scrub (a couple of days) > Was this a read-only scrub, or did this involve repair (such as after losing a disk/etc)? My understanding of SMR is that it is supposed to perform identically to CMR for reads. If you've just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:38 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > My understanding is that qmali contains a "daemon" which does not > daemonize itself. To my knowledge, you can start such a thing > only with daemontools and systemd; probably

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:24 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > The more I heard on this the more I tend to think that maybe it > > should either not be in that virtual or that it should itself depend > > on openrc/etc, or that qmail shouldn't depe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 3:19 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > How would I track down the Gentoo maintainer? > So, first thing to do is look in the repository at the metadata.xml file in the package directory. In this case it only lists the base-system project and doesn't list any individual

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 8:39 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > This is indeed a bug, but not the ones that have been suggested. The > underlying problem is that the DJB programs (mail-mta/netqmail, but > also net-dns/djbdns, for example) require a particular service manager. Is it actually using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 2:05 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > OK, so you're clever and you know this. You know to do the > couter-intuitive thing of putting @system packages into @world. Less > clever people like me follow the handbook, and assume that packages in > @system are protected. Putting

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 10:46 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 10:14:20 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > > So in these virtual packages, it seems by default the _last_ mentioned > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes!

2021-07-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > So in these virtual packages, it seems by default the _last_ mentioned > package in a || ( ... ) construct is the one --depclean keeps. It all > has the feeling of things not having been properly thought through. > I'm not sure what the

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo alternatives

2021-06-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 4:10 AM n952162 wrote: > > I'm looking for a gentoo alternative and am surprised to see that google > chrome os is based on gentoo. Uh, you might want to read up more on what ChromeOS is. While you can in theory run it on anything, it is designed basically to power

Re: [gentoo-user] it keeps growing

2021-06-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:38 AM n952162 wrote: > > 337 packages this month to be updated. It keeps getting more and more. > Pretty soon, gentoo will overtake Bitcoin in energy use. Really it is a somewhat recent thing that Bitcoin overtook Gentoo in energy use... :) -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates

2021-06-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:59 AM Adam Carter wrote: >> >> And another "wondering" - all the warnings about trusting self signed >> certs seem a bit self serving. Yes, they are trying to certify who you >> are, but at the expense of probably allowing access to your >> communications by "authorised

Re: Letsencrypt (was Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates)

2021-06-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 8:16 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:02 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > So what would you recommend for someone in the case Joost cites? I'm in that > > position, being a home user of a small network but no registered Internet > > name. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] why libera?

2021-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:10 PM Michael Cook wrote: > > Tor simply introduce too much chance of abuse. If people didn't abuse > it, it wouldn't be blocked. > Yeah, as much as I love it, this service obviously is going to be abused, especially for something like IRC. Really though the main

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install a new system

2021-04-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:33 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think I must have had a bad stage tarball. At any rate, that problem doesn't > occur now. Possible, though it seems more likely that it was a bad repo that you synced. The problem would go away the next time you ran emerge --sync

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Saving an image as black and white

2021-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 10:54 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > And the png does make a massive difference - the same command with jpg > output is 1.7MB - so why is my scanner chucking out 800KB jpegs if I set > it correctly? jpeg quality is adjustable. You can output a jpeg file of almost any size.

Re: [gentoo-user] asciidoc Fetched file: asciidoc-9.0.5.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!

2021-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:03 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 10:45:32 -0500, Jack wrote: > > > > Alternatively, switch to syncing from github and you'll always be as > > > up to date as possible - and it's much faster. > > > Syncing won't help until the ebuilds are fixed, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Saving an image as black and white

2021-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:48 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > should do it, you may need to play with the threshold setting. The file > command reports the output file as being "1-bit grayscale". > > You can also use -monochrome but that will produce a dithered image, > that's probably not what you

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 3:01 AM Dale wrote: > > I suspect a lot of users are going to be moving from Lastpass because of > this change. If their service was far better then people may pay it. > Thing is, it isn't. As was pointed out in a couple things I read, they > have been hacked in the

Re: [gentoo-user] why both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 on a 64bit system?

2021-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:57 AM Valmor F. de Almeida wrote: > > USE="elogind alsa -multilib -multiarch -abi_x86_32" > > maybe I should have used this in package.use/nvidia-drivers > instead globally. Setting abi_x86_32 globally isn't really a big problem. I wouldn't go messing with

Re: [gentoo-user] why both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 on a 64bit system?

2021-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:17 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:09:58PM -0700, Grant Taylor wrote > > On 2/14/21 10:51 AM, Jack wrote: > > > I don't think you can completely get rid of it. > > > > My (long term) desire is to do away with /lib32 and /lib64, ultimately > > only

Re: [gentoo-user] why both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 on a 64bit system?

2021-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:33 PM Valmor F. de Almeida wrote: > > > Hello, > I use the global flags USE="elogind alsa -multilib -abi_x86_32" and I > thought this would prevent 32bit libraries to be installed. > > For example I have (from glibc) both: > > /usr/lib/libutil.so > /usr/lib64/libutil.so

Re: [gentoo-user] problems with dracut

2021-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 9:39 AM John Covici wrote: > > Hi. I am having problems running dracut 0.51-r2 and 0.50-r2. The > problem is that I have two install_items lines like this > install_items+= /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf > install_items+= /etc/systemd/system/initrd-switch-root.service > I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] HOWTO: Freezing/unfreezing (groups of) processes

2021-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:07 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 06:55:12AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:45 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > > So far, so good, but running "ps -ef | grep whatever" and then > &

Re: [gentoo-user] HOWTO: Freezing/unfreezing (groups of) processes

2021-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:45 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > So far, so good, but running "ps -ef | grep whatever" and then > typing the kill -SIGSTOP/SIGCONT command on the correct pid is grunt > work, subject to typos. man killall -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] news 2021-01-30-display-manager-init -- blocked package

2021-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:53 PM antlists wrote: > > On 31/01/2021 19:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:01 PM Kusoneko wrote: > >> > >> It states that starting the next xorg-server version, ... > >> > >> ... Doing the require

Re: [gentoo-user] followup

2021-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:12 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 13:52:32 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > turns out my problem was profoundly simple, I hadn't updated my portage > > mirror list in either of the past two geological ages... (it should > > have reported "WAITING ON

Re: [gentoo-user] news 2021-01-30-display-manager-init -- blocked package

2021-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:01 PM Kusoneko wrote: > > It states that starting the next xorg-server version, ... > > ... Doing the required update is currently impossible. > > I am definitely not gonna remember about this > in a week or 2 so I'd like to deal with whatever > this issue is asap. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Big USB disks

2020-12-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 11:36 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I wondered about that. I'm nervous, though, because this is my ultimate backup > disk, and of course I don't want to endanger it. This disk is an external USB > unit, not for booting from. > Oh, if you aren't booting from it then I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Big USB disks

2020-12-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 7:58 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Just a quickie - is there a way to enable a machine built on an MSDOS BIOS to > recognise a partition on a 4TB external disk? I think I know the answer > already, but just in case... I suspect most newer firmwares are fine with it (even

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:25 AM antlists wrote: > > Here we are storing the data (source files) used to build a gentoo > system. So while it may be a bit tenuous (I find Rich's argument for > "cache" more compelling), I don't think the argument for calling this a > database that strange -

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:45 AM gevisz wrote: > > Nevertheless, the explanation why /var/db/repos/gentoo is better than > /usr/portage is still welcomed. :) > There is a lengthy discussion on gentoo-dev on this, and my personal first choice didn't win. :) There is little dispute that /var

Re: [gentoo-user] The Local Directory path "/var/spool/mail" is invalid.

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:48 PM wrote: > > I'll stick with "mbox" type. Ok, we'll go with a traditional mbox mailbox in /var/spool/mail/$user > > > Step 2 - We'll confirm postfix is configured appropriately for that > > choice and that it is delivering mail to the right place using shell > >

Re: [gentoo-user] The Local Directory path "/var/spool/mail" is invalid.

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:08 PM wrote: > > So I tried with setting: > home_mailbox = .maildir > (no forward "/", so it should be mbox type). Ok, your email is a bit confusing so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish. I'm not sure why you'd want to stick an mbox mailbox in a

Re: [gentoo-user] new install for a new mainboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM n952162 wrote: > > On 12/10/20 7:18 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:23 AM n952162 wrote: > >> I need a new mainboard. What will happen if I boot my existing system > >> on it? > > Is the CPU going to

Re: [gentoo-user] The Local Directory path "/var/spool/mail" is invalid.

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:29 PM wrote: > > On 12/10/2020 11:58 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Are you in the "mail" group? > > > > That was it. Now I can access the /var/spool/mail from TBird > I'm running Posfix and in main.cf I left as default: > home_mailbox = .maildir/ > > So all the local mail

Re: [gentoo-user] new install for a new mainboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:23 AM n952162 wrote: > > I need a new mainboard. What will happen if I boot my existing system > on it? Is the CPU going to be the same? The responses already cover the mainboard itself well. If the CPU could change then you need to check your -march in CFLAGS for

Re: [gentoo-user] Scanning double sided documents and printing them the same.

2020-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:09 PM Dale wrote: > > How do I print them the > same way tho? I didn't see much discussion on the printing side of this - how to print two-sided on a one-sided printer. Step 1 (optional): I created a CUPS queue for such jobs that just outputs everything into PDF in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 8:45 AM Michael wrote: > > The objectives of RHL and Poettering are not necessarily aligned > with mine. For example, as I was installing sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles I > noticed systemd selecting as default DNS and NTP servers belonging to Google. > Not something I would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:37 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Maybe the devs need to rename the systemd-tmpfiles package to satisfy > those that break out in a sweat at the mention of the s-word :) Or maybe people who care a great deal about the filenames of stuff just could rename them as they

Re: [gentoo-user] Performance: WD vs. Samung SSD vs. M.2 SSD

2020-12-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:46:56PM -0700 schrieb the...@sys-concept.com: > > Nothing scientific, but I was surprised how fast M.2 disk so decided to > > time how fast GnuCash will load my accounting, her it is: > > > > Box 1.) > > WD

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0, 0)

2020-11-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:15 PM wrote: > > On 11/25/2020 02:50 AM, Michael wrote: > > On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 06:30:05 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > >> On 11/24/2020 10:08 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >>> I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system. > >>> > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:55 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 25/11/20 13:31, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Now, one area I would use UUIDs is with mdadm if you're not putting > > lvm on top. I've seen mdadm arrays get renumbered and that is a mess > > if you're directly moun

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:54 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs? > > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? > > The NVMe drive, the main one, has 18; So, if all the partitions are on one drive and that is the only drive you

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:49 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 07:56:07PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > > > 3) AMD code runs only on same or newer AMD, because it has the 3DNow! > > >instruction set the others lack. > > > > > > > FYI 3dnow and 3dnowext went away some time ago.

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:10 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Ouch! Are the CPUs exactly identical? If not, then you may get the > "Illegal instruction" error. This is a "feature" of Gentoo, which is > often user-optimized for a specific CPU. This "feature" has nothing to do with Gentoo, but

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 6:39 PM wrote: > > make menuconfig > HOSTCC script/kconfig/mconf.o > : internal compiler error: Illegal instruction > > Even if I try to run: emerge --info I get: > Illegal instruction > Is this running on the same CPU, or are you migrating to a different system? If

Re: [gentoo-user] python2 really really really gone? Scripts all broken?

2020-11-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 9:38 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > The sed editor might be helpful doing migrations from python 2.7 into > python 3. This would need a sed expert knowing both flavors of python to > write those scripts though and I don't know if any of that was already > done. Nobody is

Re: [gentoo-user] python2 really really really gone? Scripts all broken?

2020-11-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 9:03 AM n952162 wrote: > > I'm trying to think of another language that just tossed it's whole body of > legacy code out the window ... okay Microsoft word does that to its user-base > regularly, it's true... > I'm sure MS has done it, but they're not really a good

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook

2020-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 2:46 PM antlists wrote: > > On 14/11/2020 18:48, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Probably the cause for me running into so much difficulty converting from > > openrc to systemd is there is no path for systems using systemd unless > > they're using uefi and going multi-user also,

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:47 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 16:58:30 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > I too stick to stable sources, partly for the reason you give, partly > > > to avoid excessive reboots and partly because some systems use ZFS. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 1:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I too stick to stable sources, partly for the reason you give, partly to > avoid excessive reboots and partly because some systems use ZFS. > > % cat /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/kernel > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -~amd64 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 12:23 PM Daniel Frey wrote: > > The problem is it's always trying to pull in unstable packages when I > have two slotted kernels in world: > > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.4.48 > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.4.66 > > I tried masking kernels >5.5 but now it's trying to pull

Re: [gentoo-user] problems with installing zfs-kmod under new kernel

2020-10-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:36 AM John Covici wrote: > > I was on 0.8.4 and it upgraded me to 22.0.0_rc1. I have not upgraded > my pools, so I think I can go back to 0.8.4 or 5. The kernel I am > upgrading is not the running kernel, so would any of this effect my > running kernel which is

Re: [gentoo-user] problems with installing zfs-kmod under new kernel

2020-10-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:28 AM John Covici wrote: > > Hi. I am having problems installing zfs-kmod on my new kernel > 5.4.69. Originally I got this: > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been > pulled > !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID: new drive on aac raid

2020-10-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:38 AM wrote: > > Stefan G. Weichinger: > > On an older server the customer replaced a SAS drive. > > > > I see it as /dev/sg11, but not yes as /dev/sdX, it is not visible in "lsblk" > > Perhaps theese links will help: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:59 AM Michael wrote: > > Most Linux live media should work. Some additional steps may be required > compared to a Gentoo Live-CD. Not really. The process is the same. Most of that webpage is just a disclaimer that if you're having trouble with some odd livecd you may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:51 AM John Covici wrote: > > > OK, one problem is going to be, I need a command l ine, not a gui and > I need speakup, so I will have to check and see if the Ubunto latest > has that in the kernel. > Yeah, I get that, though I think the ubuntu livecd has a text console

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:32 AM John Covici wrote: > > Is there anything more recent I c an use as a rescue disk? I have > version 5.1 but after that, not sure what they did, but could not even > get a decent root prompt and I do need zfs, otherwise there are many > options. > Don't want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:23 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I always use SystemRescueCD to install a new Gentoo system. Never a single > problem with it, other than having to set up my own working conditions every > time. > Personally I tend to use Ubuntu - mainly because it just gives you a nice

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:44 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:37:43 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is > > > using the installer to install Gentoo. > > > > Nowhere in his post

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:30 AM Dale wrote: > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is using > the installer to install Gentoo. Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the minimal CD. That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be >> able to create your own mount points. > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. > That thing has come and gone

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:45 AM n952162 wrote: > > Have I successfully updated my system? > ... > and these snippets: > I wrote a lengthy reply explaining all of your issues. Here is a snippet: ...hope that helps. In the future, please attach your command line and full output. Did that answer

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc is being built again??

2020-09-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM n952162 wrote: > > 10 weeks ago, I updated my system and it took days to build. I just > started a new update of my system, and it looks like it will take at > least more than a day again ... > > Why is gcc being rebuilt after 10 weeks, for example? Your email

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: not switching to elogind - but where's consolekit?

2020-09-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:01 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > The deciding factor for me is that elogind pulls in PAM. PAM is to > me what HAL is to Dale. Basically "everything you know is wrong". PAM > imposes its own config files, and anything you read on man pages for a > service may not apply

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?

2020-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 6:47 PM james wrote: > > On 8/29/20 4:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Perhaps a read only mechanism could publish all of that financial data? > Perhaps timely data entry, should be a requirement? As part of the cleanup Robin has published a fair bi

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?

2020-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM William Hubbs wrote: > > As a member of the council, I'll be the first to say I don't know > anything about trustee functions. For me, the question is, do we want to > control our own destiny as an organization or do we want to have another > organization control

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:51 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 8/21/20 5:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It is what just about every other modern application in existence uses. > > VoIP does not. Yes, but VoIP isn't just implementing a simple data-exchange API. It is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage package removals due to python-2.7

2020-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:48 AM Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 24 August 2020 13:02:56 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > I may give virt-manager a spin, because the users will require a GUI manager > to launch VMs, but then if I start emerging packages at large I could emerge > VBox from

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage package removals due to python-2.7

2020-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:57 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:50:42 +0100, Michael wrote: > > > !!! The following installed packages are masked: > > - app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-5.2.40.137108::gentoo (masked by: > > package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: > > #

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:37 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 8/21/20 6:37 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > This stuff can be interesting to discuss, but email is SO entrenched > > that I don't see any of this changing because of all the legacy issues. > > You would need to offe

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:39 PM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:41 AM, antlists > wrote: > > > Will that python script allow for the situation that the message is > > received, but the message was NOT safely stored for onwards

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:44 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > How are the AMD "Wraith Stealth" fans? I've been using the fan that > came with the old Core-i3, and it gets a little annoying when it's > time to compile chromium (or when flying planes/helicopters). I have two Ryzen processors with

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 2:43 AM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Monday, August 17, 2020 3:48 PM, Jarry wrote: > > > Rent VPS and be your own admin. But running properly configured > > mail-server is not so easy. Setting up postfix/exim/sendmail > > is just a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to hide a network interface from an application

2020-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 7:07 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:22:19 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > > > I dislike Docker, but I do like the idea of containers or network > > namespaces. > > Going OT here, but why do you dislike Docker? I've only recently started > using it, so if

Re: [gentoo-user] can't mount raid0

2020-08-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 3:30 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 8/12/20 1:28 PM, Никита Степанов wrote: > > livecd gentoo # mount /dev/md1 /mnt/gentoo > > mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member' > > what to do? > > What does /proc/mdstat show? > > Is it a partitioned software RAID? If so,

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd 246 gives strange messages

2020-08-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:32 AM John Covici wrote: > > Does this indicate a problem, and if not, how can I stop these > messages? > I'm guessing it is just log spam, but I don't use Gnome so I can't really be sure. You might do well to ask on a Gnome mailing list, or maybe ping one of the gnome

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild: How to deal with external repositories properly (best practise)?

2020-08-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 7:51 PM tastytea wrote: > > This seems to affect only api.github.com, packages in ::guru use > https://github.com//archive/.tar.gz instead, which is not > affected (just checked with net-wireless/rtl8192eu-0_pre20200123). Ah, didn't notice that. This is the more common

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild: How to deal with external repositories properly (best practise)?

2020-08-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:57 PM Alexey Mishustin wrote: > > вс, 2 авг. 2020 г. в 13:52, Ramon Fischer : > > > > I decided to use "EGIT_COMMIT" to let the ebuild pulling a certain commit. > > And even that would not give the sense of security... > > Just read in gentoo-dev [1]: > ...unannounced

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange portage behaviour

2020-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:01 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 3 August 2020 14:18:22 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Sounds like you want --usepkgonly y --binpkg-respect-use y (the first > > is the same as -K). At least, I think that is what you're get

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange portage behaviour

2020-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:45 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Now, when I chroot into the rescue system and 'emerge -uaDvNk @core @base', > portage reports that it can't use the postfix package because of different USE > flags, but it does the update I've asked for. Postfix is in @apps in the main >

Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity

2020-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 8:24 AM Dale wrote: > > In the past, I've never seen the drive on the larger files be that slow even > toward the end. Generally, it stays pretty close to 180MBs/sec or so which > is what I usually get with PMR drives. Yeah, just hard to be certain without ditching the

Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity

2020-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:30 AM Dale wrote: > > Little update here. Rich, I think you mentioned it would slow down when it > ran out of PMR space while trying to redo the shingled part. Up until now, I > hadn't ran into that issue. It seems the PMR section for this drive is > somewhere

Re: [gentoo-user] nsapass - alternative to keepassxc (and others)

2020-07-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:51 PM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > it's just an encrypted json file. you > can decrypt it by `scrypt dec path/to/db.enc` to > see how stupidly simple it is. I have to say that this entire thread is a great example of Poe's Law in action... -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken binary packages

2020-07-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:36 AM Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > > Is there a better way to solve this? Is it possible to tell mythtv's build > system to ignore the unwanted libraries if the xmltv use-flag is NOT set? Maybe, and if you do please do submit a patch. We refer to these sorts of build

Re: [gentoo-user] nsapass - alternative to keepassxc (and others)

2020-07-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 1:15 AM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > hi - recently i heard some guys were suffering in > this list from keepassxc, which reminded me of my > my own. so i finally decided to put an end to > this in 404 lines of py code: > > https://github.com/Al-Caveman/nsapass >

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