Re: [gentoo-user] Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > I think referring to BPF is a red herring, because it is really the > processor that is at fault. Not BPF. And yes, I'm aware of what AMD > claims. Of course the processor is at fault. However, in order to exploit the fault on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > There are 2 vulnerabities at play here, both caused by speculative > execution... Actually, there are 3 related ones, with two names between them. Can't imagine why there is so much confusion... > 2) "Spectre" is

Re: [gentoo-user] Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Jalus Bilieyich wrote: > Is my Pentium D from 2007 affected? > Any Intel x86 chip after and including the Pentium Pro should be affected. That came out in 1995. The Pentium D is almost certainly vulnerable. -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:51 PM, Adam Carter <adamcart...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <rea...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 04/01/18 18:18, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> >>> For variant 1 the only known vulnerability

Re: [gentoo-user] Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:44 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > I am still working through the information myself, but it looks like > BPF filters are an easy way to make sure you have something to look > for in kernelspace. My understanding is that for exploit 1 to work you need to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Holger Hoffstätte <hol...@applied-asynchrony.com> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:53:07 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>> And as I understa

Re: [gentoo-user] Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > According to the Project Zero documentation having BPF JIT enabled > is the key to the exploit. > > The way the docs read ... can it be assumed that by having BPF JIT > disabled on an AMD, that blocks this

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Stroller wrote: > > If the kernel devs cared to announce when they were patching exploits then we > could take each > one under consideration individually. But the kernel devs are secretive about > kernel exploits, because > they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > > And as I understand it the code can be disabled with either a compile > time option or command line switch to the kernel. I suspect the compile-time option is PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION (which was newly added in 4.14.11).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > It's adequate to update your software when a security hole was fixed - on > the point. Not two or three months later... > And on that note I see that upstream just released 4.14.11 containing what is widely speculated as

Re: [gentoo-user] Using an old kernel .config as the basis for a new .config

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: > > You need to copy your old .config into the new kernel source directory. > "make oldconfig" then uses those values, and only asks you about new items. It will find an existing config in /boot if you have one named

Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:37 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Yep, putting -sysv-utils for systemd fixes things right up! I hope > there is no strange consequences by disabling this flag, but we shall > see. > None that I've seen. Systemd has always been backwards-compatible

Re: [gentoo-user] How to repair a 'secondary Gentoo system'

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:45 PM, David Haller wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>Strangely enough, dmesg shows >> >>systemd-coredump[25375]: Failed to connect to coredump service: No such file > ^^ >>or directory >> >>although I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > > So the OP needs to be aware that, if his file is smaller than the chunk > size, then it *will* be recoverable from a disk pulled from an array, be > it md-raid or zfs. > > The question is, then, how big is a chunk?

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk> wrote: > On 09/12/17 23:36, Rich Freeman wrote: >> you instead compute 5 sets of parity so that now you have 9 sets of >> data that can tolerate the loss of any 5, then throw away the sets >> con

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 09/12/17 16:58, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday, December 8, 2017 12:48:45 AM CET Wols Lists wrote: >>> On 07/12/17 22:35, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > (Oh - and md raid-5/6 also mix data and parity, so the same

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Frank Steinmetzger <war...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 10:26:34AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> […] They want 1GB/TB RAM, which rules out a lot of the cheap ARM-based >> solutions. Maybe you can get by with less,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > I see. I'm always looking for ways to optimise expenses and cut down on > environmental footprint by keeping stuff around until it really breaks. In > order to increase capacity, I would have to replace all four drives,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Frank Steinmetzger <war...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 06:35:10PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> IMO the cost savings for parity RAID trumps everything unless money >> just isn't a factor. > > Cost saving compared

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > I don’t really care about performance. It’s a simple media archive powered > by the cheapest Haswell Celeron I could get (with 16 Gigs of ECC RAM though > ^^). Sorry if I more or less stole the thread, but this is almost

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 27/11/17 22:30, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> Hi all, >> I need to expand two bcache fronted 4xdisk btrfs raid 10's - this >> requires purchasing 4 drives (and one system does not have room for two >> more drives)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > I don't trust procmail anymore after CVE-2017-16844. Uh, thanks. Hadn't even heard of that one, but I was on vacation when it hit I think. Bug 522114 has a link to the patch, which works fine with eapply_user with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 26/11/17 18:46, Ralph Seichter wrote: >> Does NeoMutt perhaps suppress dupes based on message ID? Thunderbird >> obviously does not. > > Thunderbird has an add-on that will delete duplicates. I make regular > use of

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 24.11.17 16:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I'm trying an evasion, which is to use fetchmail to retrieve emails >> from my ISP and deliver them to postfix, which can then serve them >> via IMAP. > > Postfix is

Re: [gentoo-user] gst-plugins blocker

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 21/11/2017 15:03, Mick wrote: >> I see that > media-libs/gst- >> plugins-base-1.12.3, so I removed various gst-plugins and net-libs/farstream, >> emerged -1 media-libs/gst-plugins-base-1.12.3, but portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-11-05 17:17, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Distros will always have to do integration work, and that is fine. >> That is the role of a distro. And sometimes distros have to roll >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-11-05 14:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Second, my actual objection is more to sticking wrappers around an >> upstream program just to extend its capabilities, when other software &

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-11-05 07:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> But, I agree that it makes far more sense to just have desktop users >> use an appropriate cron implementation designed to handle the machine >&

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 05/11/2017 15:48, tu...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> unpacking is not implemented yet. > > > Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly > incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > There are other schedulers out there that succeed where cron fails (eg > Control-M, chronos, quartz), but those are all large, bulky, designed > for big complex installs/requirements and probably not suited for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 04/11/17 18:15, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: >> >> I have a short question to systemd. I would like to ask your experience >> in the changeover. Was it easy? Were there problems? >> Change or reinstall? What mean the

Re: [gentoo-user] FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Kai Peter wrote: > > *I* recommend fcron, it is a bit under estimated. Beside its progressive > design and w/o consulting the man page now again - AFAIR it can handle > DST issues like above through options in fcrontab. But with my concept

Re: [gentoo-user] Basic questions about Distcc

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Lasse Pouru wrote: > > So the flags would have to be the same on all machines? What about the > CPU architecture? Isn't there a way to cross-compile for a 32-bit > machine (with minimal flags) on a 64-bit machine, and specify which >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd fails to mount nfs4 mounts

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > > Windows WON'T SHUT DOWN PROPERLY most of the time. > > And something messed up /home. > > Easy enough to fix, when I eventually found out the cause. Run fsck on > /dev/sda8. Re-configure windows to tell it "shut down

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > If you can, do a Buffet... > ... > ...demand that pension funds invest in companies that pay good dividends, > well covered... Without wanting to derail this thread even more, I couldn't help but notice the irony

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > > The reason British Telecom made obscene profits for YEARS after they > privatised was because they inherited terrible infrastructure that cost > a lot of money just to keep going. > A similar kind of system is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, 30 October 2017 21:04:00 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > have we profited on today'. However, wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 30 October 2017 20:50:16 GMT Dale wrote: >> I think we both agree that companies should look long term, it's not >> likely they ever will. Their stock owners would cringe if they did, > > Not really. Pension

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Dale wrote: > > have we profited on today'. However, when a company is public, stocks > and such, then it is about what have we made today with no one caring > about years from now. After all, the people owning the stocks may not > even

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I did some looking around (I had an APC) and all the APC branded crap you > get in the stores are cheaper, inferior options. I found out the BX-prefixed > models don't even have proper AVR (they only correct when the

Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I find "recent" qemu out-of-tree ebuild

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 06:55:45AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote > >> This should work: >> git clone git://anongit.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git . >> git checkout 4716c9ae8666e4cfc6eff46960f7b

Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I find "recent" qemu out-of-tree ebuild

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Michael Orlitzky suggested > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/app-emulation/qemu?id=4716c9ae8666e4cfc6eff46960f7bff8f4f3d708 > which displays the 2 ebuilds I want, and there is a "files" directory. I > do

Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I find "recent" qemu out-of-tree ebuild

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Next question... from a git newbie... is there a way to pull down the > entire "files" directory with patches in one command? gitweb seems to > delight in using tons of fancy HTML to format a cute layout. Trying to

Re: [gentoo-user] x11-apps/xinit-1.3.4-r2 is broken

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > In case anyone else trips over this, as I did today in my routine update, > see https://bugs.gentoo.org/634706. I followed comment 2. > > The symptom is that sddm cannot start KDE, so you have to log

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] emerge default opts

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 15/10/2017 16:31, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 10/14/2017 09:30 PM, Dale wrote: >>> >>> While at it. Is there a tool that tells when USE flags in make.conf is >>> either no longer used or doesn't even exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Why I can't I build systemd without ipv6?

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: >> >> So *why* on earth is it a dependency when (from what I've been reading after >> discovering this) many ISPs don't seem to support it properly

Re: [gentoo-user] Error while starting Docker daemon

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Mick wrote: > > From what I see above you are running btrfs. It may be worth compiling in > your kernel this module you have left out, because I've read somewhere it > prevents fs corruption (Rich seems to know a lot about BTRFS, so I

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT?} which fs on 1.8TB partition

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 07:06:24 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> btrfs isn't horrible, but it basically hasn't been optimized at all. >> The developers are mainly focused on getting it to not destroy

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT?} which fs on 1.8TB partition

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 05:18:33 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> Anyone have any experience with comparing performance with either btrfs >> or ZFS against either ReiserFS or XFS for a maildir based mail server? > > I tried btrfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT?} which fs on 1.8TB partition

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2017-10-06, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> 2. Xfs: If you absolutely have to mess with a filesystem (especially >> for multimedia) this isn't a bad alternative.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT?} which fs on 1.8TB partition

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 171005 christos kotsis wrote: >> I just noticed that ReiserFS has significant performance >> over ext3, 4 when dealing with small files. > > I've long relied on ReiserFS for everything except /boot > & have never had any

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing dependencies without upping version ??

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 2:51 PM, John Blinka wrote: > >> Is this an officially approved technique?? it is DIRTY. > > I imagine that it is sanctioned, otherwise why would there be a > --changed-deps flag to emerge? Does seem dirty. Glad you asked the > question. Would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [offtopic] Copy-On-Write ?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Kai Krakow <hurikha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Am Sat, 16 Sep 2017 10:05:21 -0700 > schrieb Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org>: > >> >> My main concern with xfs/ext4 is that neither provides on-disk >> checksums or protection against

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [offtopic] Copy-On-Write ?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Actually, I'm running across 3x 1TB here on my desktop, with mraid1 and > draid 0. Combined with bcache it gives confident performance. > Not entirely sure I'd use the word "confident" to describe a filesystem where the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [offtopic] Copy-On-Write ?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > But I guess that btrfs doesn't use 10G sized extents? And I also guess, > this is where autodefrag jumps in. > It definitely doesn't use 10G extents considering the chunks are only 1GB. (For those who aren't aware,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [offtopic] Copy-On-Write ?

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > At least in btrfs there's also a caveat that the original extents may > not actually be split and the split extents share parts of the > original extent. That means, if you delete the original later, the copy > will

Re: [gentoo-user] Rename /dev/nvme0n1 to /dev/sda

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > I would suggest you utilize the existing symlinks in one of the > /dev/disk/ sub-directories, or create some udev rules to create your > own symlinks based on whatever metadata you wish. I would also suggest > you read

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:19:00AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote >> On 2017-08-31 08:47, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> > 1) To protect my gear against power surges/spikes/drops >> > 2) To protect against the rare occurence when

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> If there were some kind of trade-off I'd see the argument, but the >> worst case here is just that they may or may not need it. For >> something with some benefit and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dale wrote: > > The problem is, if the hard drives fills up, most won't know that they > can use LVM to expand it by adding a new drive. Since they don't know > what LVM is, they don't know about the option they have and won't use it >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:27:12 +0100 > schrieb Mick : > >> BTW, if you run ps axf and come across '/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd >> --daemon' don't panic. RHL advocates of monolithic stack for

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > But I'm not talking about it for users like you and I. > I've said over and over in this thread about regular users and you seem > to be missing that part; it's the entirety of everything I'm saying > here. I

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > are some of the available kernels not systemd, Michael's answer was correct, but I just wanted to note that the kernel and systemd are really two different things. You don't really need to do anything special with

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we > have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or > care. So why do Ubuntu installers shove it in your face as something

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Stroller <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 29 Aug 2017, at 14:19, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller >> <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: >&g

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock > jump around. Every second on the wall clock actually happens, none are > missing. To do that, ntp adjusts the length of a second till the >

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller wrote: > > Any recommendations for a simple NTP client? > systemd-timedated? /me ducks... -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:50 AM, J García wrote: > > I would recomed using something like the base livecd or systemrescuecd > for an install with OpenRC. and only use something like CentOS(if you > are talking about 7) if you want to use systemd, and then make use of >

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:29 PM, wabe <waben...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe <waben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it s

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe wrote: > > I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or seven > years ago when it was brand-new. It still works to my satisfaction. But > of course recent CPUs (for example AMD Ryzen) are much faster. Therefore > I

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I forgot to mention there are things that /significantly/ improve >> compile times. Top of the list is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. > > Does this mean that, if the build fails,

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >> Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve >> than i expected but still way easier than LFS. >> So, on a dual core

Re: [gentoo-user] Ryzen seg fault issue fixed

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 15:46:31 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: >> FYI, you should be able to return your CPU for a fixed one now. > >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=new-ryzen-fixed=1 > > Thanks for that. I wasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: downgrading glibc

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. August 2017, 09:01:07 CEST schrieb Raffaele Belardi: >> […] >> > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604430 >> > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575232 >> >> Just as follow up,

Re: [gentoo-user] efibootmgr "Could not prepare Boot variable: Read-only file system"

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > I'm somewhat confused about the whole thing. Wasn't the core problem of > accidentally bricking devices solved by the kernel by making > a subset of EFI variables immutable? (Actaully, I found the commit, which > says that

Re: [gentoo-user] zfs emerge failure

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:46 PM, John Blinka wrote: > > I think it would be informative if I could somehow see exactly what > commands are being run when the error occurs. Is there a way of doing > that? > Yes, and in fact it is in the output when emerge fails:

Re: [gentoo-user] zfs emerge failure

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:19 PM, John Blinka wrote: > > Hope someone can shed some light on continuing emerge failures for zfs > since gnetoo-sources-4.4.39 and zfs-0.6.5.8. I was able to install > that version of zfs with that kernel last November on one of my > machines,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:08 PM, R0b0t1 <r03...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> I do suggest using libvirt, and found that >> app-emulation/virt-manager gives you a lot of the benefits of >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:02 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Helmut Jarausch: >> >>>I'm running linux-4.12.7-gentoo with Virtualbox >>>BUT you need app-emulation/virtualbox and Co in version 5.1.26 >> >> Hm. My

Re: [gentoo-user] efibootmgr "Could not prepare Boot variable: Read-only file system"

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Mick wrote: > > I can't recall if I did this myself in a moment of security induced > inspiration. I doubt I did. So how did this happen? What is responsible for > mounting this fs? > It looks like this never did turn into a news

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Helmut Jarausch: > >>I'm running linux-4.12.7-gentoo with Virtualbox >>BUT you need app-emulation/virtualbox and Co in version 5.1.26 > > Hm. My Gentoo is mostly stable. That would mean to add virtualbox to the > unstable

Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John Covici wrote: > > I would like to know which cd has zfs support. I could not find one, > so I wrote some catalyst stuff to make an install cd with zfs support, > but it would be nice if I would not have to do that, a fair bit of >

Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Dale wrote: >> >> I do it this way. >> pkill agetty >> Simple, quick and easy to remember. One could script it I guess??? > > I'm pretty sure this would work, but is there something which would > start them again? As far as

Re: [gentoo-user] Restart agetty after update @world?

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > But now, there's agetty left, and I don't know how to restart this > service (without reboot): > This is because these are run directly by init and not by openrc, unlike all the other daemons on the system. As others

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium 60 build failure

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-07-31, Mateusz Lenik wrote: > >> otherwise you'd have to pass one of the suggested flags to the >> compiler somehow. > > Aren't required gcc versions and/or flags supposed to be specified >

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing unnecessary software.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: > > The problem i see is that admin. is not free to change the packages > set, that is dictated by a profile. -- Like i have pointed out, once i > tried to remove SSH (for the example, so that here can be another >

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:40:19 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Another option to consider is creating your own overlay with some >> meta-packages in it. Then when you do a new install the

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:54:58 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > If you want to install the same group of packages on multiple >> > machines, create a set and copy it to /etc/portage/sets.

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 11:02:41 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> The general sense is that Changelogs represent the old way of doing >> things. Most projects have gone away from having them, or they ju

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:07:31 +0100, among other, you wrote: > >> >> This is what was asked for from the start, and as soon as you provided >> it, several people identified a potential problem. It's no use saying >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 00:35:02 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > If you want to install the same group of packages on multiple machines, > create a set and copy it to /etc/portage/sets. I have a base set that I > install on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-07-29 06:25, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> IMO unless you really need to read them offline it is probably just as >> easy to just browse the git repository. I find github provi

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Thanks. clone-depth seems not to be available, so I amnot sure whats > best here. I thinkI like the history, so I will see how to do a git > clone. I do havethe type as git in the gentoo.conf, but I don't know >

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:36 AM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:07:03 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: >> > >> > Well, clone-depth

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici wrote: > > Well, clone-depth = 0 gave me a syntax error Can you provide the entire contents of your repos.conf, and the error it gives you? I wouldn't use a manual checkout for /usr/portage. You can of course do a checkout

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:24 AM, John Covici wrote: > OK, I changed to a git repository and did a git whatchanged, but in > the directory I was looking at namely sys-kernel/dracut, I just got a > generated commit from about the time I created the repository and none > of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-07-28 22:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage >> > directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:01:24 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: >> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400,

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, > > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage > directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that name. > Ah, looks like they were removed

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > Not to get away from OP's question, but how good would the installer > need to be before it held the interest of any developers that manage > the website or handbook? > That is hard to say. I've been meaning to better

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