Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: Creating a custom kernel from a -bin kernel

2024-10-09 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 10/9/24 6:08 PM, Michael wrote: >> I have a recollection of reading somewhere online mention of a > script >> that will take the .config file from the "-bin" kernel and then >> modprobe, I think, each listed module in turn to see if it is actually >> being used and subsequently writing a n

Re: [gentoo-user] Losing emails

2024-10-09 Thread William Kenworthy
Check the permissions on the email in .maildir.  I am using imap and very occasionally Thunderbird wont display an email  as the permissions were not set correctly for some reason. (glitch? on download) BillK On 9/10/24 22:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 9 October 2024 15:41:16 BST I

[gentoo-user] Re: Creating a custom kernel from a -bin kernel

2024-10-09 Thread Peter Böhm
> Have a look at this page: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Configuration or take the hard way and do it yourself: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/ Manual_kernel_configuration

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: Creating a custom kernel from a -bin kernel

2024-10-09 Thread Michael
800 > From: Andrew Lowe > Reply-To: a...@wht.com.au > Organization: Wombat High Tech > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Dear all, > I'm in the process of building a new machine. To get things up and > running I've decided to go with the gentoo-sources

Re: [gentoo-user] [PLEASE IGNORE] Haven't been able to post to list...

2024-10-09 Thread Mark Knecht
Made it On Wed, Oct 9, 2024, 2:30 PM Andrew Lowe wrote: > Is this getting through? > > Sorry for the "fluff" but as the subject says, I've been trying to > post > to the list but nothing gets through. On the other hand, I'm getting > messages from the list, no problem. > > Andrew

[gentoo-user] [PLEASE IGNORE] Haven't been able to post to list...

2024-10-09 Thread Andrew Lowe
Is this getting through? Sorry for the "fluff" but as the subject says, I've been trying to post to the list but nothing gets through. On the other hand, I'm getting messages from the list, no problem. Andrew

[gentoo-user] Fwd: Creating a custom kernel from a -bin kernel

2024-10-09 Thread Andrew Lowe
For some reason this didn't go through yesterday so, once again.. Forwarded Message Subject: Creating a custom kernel from a -bin kernel Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:55:50 +0800 From: Andrew Lowe Reply-To: a...@wht.com.au Organization: Wombat High Tech To: gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-09 Thread Michael
On Wednesday 9 October 2024 16:31:16 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 07:47:34PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote > > > The Gentoo install suggested using "cronie". I want to run a script > > > > daily as local user. The config I want is... > > > > 35 7 * * * waltdnes /home/waltdnes/

Re: [gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-09 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 17:31, Walter Dnes wrote: > What do I need to do to allow "geeqie" to open up in an X window as > user "waltdnes". Prepend the cron command with the display variable. Most likely this would look like: DISPLAY=:0.0 /home/waltdnes/pm/check4update/check4update Regards, Arve

Re: [gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 07:47:34PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote > The Gentoo install suggested using "cronie". I want to run a script > daily as local user. The config I want is... > > 35 7 * * * waltdnes /home/waltdnes/pm/check4update/check4update My email shows that the job is launching, but

[gentoo-user] Suppressing some "emerge" output

2024-10-09 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, after a recent KDE upgrade among other new packages "emerge" also in- stalled "dev-qt/qtwebengine" as a new dependency. Since on my five year old laptop this package requires about 6 hours 20 minutes to build, I decided to slightly redesign my package managing script and to use b

Re: [gentoo-user] Losing emails

2024-10-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 9 October 2024 15:41:16 BST I wrote: > You may remember my mentioning a fly in the ointment recently. Well, today I > went to post a follow-up, only to find that the message had disappeared > from my client, which is KMail. Perhaps I didn't actually send that mail, I > thought, so I c

[gentoo-user] Losing emails

2024-10-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
Greetings, You may remember my mentioning a fly in the ointment recently. Well, today I went to post a follow-up, only to find that the message had disappeared from my client, which is KMail. Perhaps I didn't actually send that mail, I thought, so I checked the archive and there it was. KMail

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-07 Thread gentoo-user
On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 16:26 +0700, Arthur R. wrote: > There's not pretty much difference with something like Gmail. If you > want to do something illegal - your /encrypted/ correspondence will > suddenly be decrypted for those who are interested. If you want true > security and privacy - just se

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-04 Thread Michael
dexing can be quite sluggish when too many actions are queued up, but otherwise it just works as expected - YMMV. > I think if I can get something local, Dovecot maybe, then I can switch > from Gmail more easily and then just test drive email software until I > find one I like. Email is

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/10/2024 09:01, Dale wrote: Once I get started, maybe this will go smoothly this time.  Just maybe. You'll need to read the docu, but this is my dovecot config file. Note that I have NOT changed any files that were installed with dovecot. This file won't exist on a clean install, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-04 Thread Dale
now where to start.  I think, might be wrong, setting up Dovecot first and then I can switch providers later, just add account to Dovecot, and then switch email software until I find one I like once that is done.  I could start with the IMAP thing and then switch to pop if I needed too.  One thing I

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/10/2024 12:33, Michael wrote: Usually this is a POP3 setting. Instead of deleting a message from the server once it is downloaded by your client, you can configure it to delete the downloaded message with some delay. With IMAP4 you have to delete the messages from the server yourself and

Re: [gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-03 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 at 01:47, Walter Dnes wrote: > My head hurts. Which config file do I enter the config into, and are > there any initialization steps? Is there a simpler cron program, if > that would help? As Dale said, 'crontab -e' to edit the current user's crontab is the easiest solution

Re: [gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-03 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > The Gentoo install suggested using "cronie". I want to run a script > daily as local user. The config I want is... > > 35 7 * * * waltdnes /home/waltdnes/pm/check4update/check4update > > I did some RTFM... > > * There is no "man cronie" but there is a /etc/init.d/cronie >

[gentoo-user] cronie setup questions

2024-10-03 Thread Walter Dnes
The Gentoo install suggested using "cronie". I want to run a script daily as local user. The config I want is... 35 7 * * * waltdnes /home/waltdnes/pm/check4update/check4update I did some RTFM... * There is no "man cronie" but there is a /etc/init.d/cronie * There is a "man cron" * There i

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 at 16:44, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Not wishing to hijack the thread, but I've been trying for years, > intermittently, to get LAN mail working. It did work once, years ago, but I'm > damned if I can get it going again now. My problem is not with dovecot but > with postfix. Mail o

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 3 October 2024 12:33:46 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday 3 October 2024 10:37:44 BST Dale wrote: > > Also, I figure I could set it to > > delete after a few days or a week from the email provider. > > Usually this is a POP3 setting. Instead of deleting a message from the > server onc

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 2 October 2024 20:10:15 BST Wol wrote: > Make sure you set everything up in the local config file - look at the > global file that comes with dovecot, and at the end you'll see a pointer > to a non-existent local file. Set that up, and then make sure your email > client can see it. Mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Michael
On Thursday 3 October 2024 10:37:44 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 3 October 2024 05:30:58 BST Dale wrote: > >> Wol wrote: > >>> On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: > Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server. In a way, > I'd like to have it so that everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Bumping a version of a specific package

2024-10-03 Thread Tomás Carvalho
I was able to do the PR (38861)! Your guide was *extremely *helpful (already bookmarked 🙂) thank you very much! Best, Tomás* * On 10/3/24 07:25, Matt Jolly wrote: Hi Tomás, Opening a Pull Request to resolve your bug is not just OK, it's encouraged. Reading up on the bug you provided, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 3 October 2024 05:30:58 BST Dale wrote: >> Wol wrote: >>> On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server. In a way, I'd like to have it so that everything is fetched, stored on my system and then I can use any ema

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-03 Thread Michael
On Thursday 3 October 2024 05:30:58 BST Dale wrote: > Wol wrote: > > On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: > >> Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server. In a way, > >> I'd like to have it so that everything is fetched, stored on my > >> system and then I can use any email software I want

Re: [gentoo-user] Bumping a version of a specific package

2024-10-02 Thread Matt Jolly
Hi Tomás, Opening a Pull Request to resolve your bug is not just OK, it's encouraged. Reading up on the bug you provided, the suggestion is to depend on the '3' slot of `dev-ruby/google-protobuf` - so it would look like this: ``` ruby_add_rdepend " dev-ruby/google-protobuf:3 de

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread Dale
Wol wrote: > On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: >> Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server.  In a way, >> I'd like to have it so that everything is fetched, stored on my >> system and then I can use any email software I want, Seamonkey, >> Thunderbird, Mutt, Kmail or whatever, without

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread Wol
On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server.  In a way, I'd like to have it so that everything is fetched, stored on my system and then I can use any email software I want, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, Mutt, Kmail or whatever, without losing a single email

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Wednesday 2 October 2024 14:10:39 BST Dale wrote: > >> I just want to switch from Gmail. I don't really need encryption >> stuff. I wouldn't mind doing my own but I have no clue where to even >> start on that. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > Some links for your consideration: >

[gentoo-user] Bumping a version of a specific package

2024-10-02 Thread Tomás Carvalho
Hello folks, The package app-emulation/vagrant-2.4.1 seems to break with the latest (available in gentoo) dev-ruby/grpc (version 1.59.2), when I "bumped" the version to the current one (local overlay) vagrant seems to work fine :)  (mainly changed the title of the ebuild file) I opened a bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread Dale
mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > Proton does keep other people from reading your' email.  I've been stalked by > google based on my interest/emails after they bought the provider I was > using.  > > But yes, if your' scenario involves any thing the spooks might be interested > in, y

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread mad . scientist . at . large
Proton does keep other people from reading your' email.  I've been stalked by google based on my interest/emails after they bought the provider I was using.  But yes, if your' scenario involves any thing the spooks might be interested in, you can bet the spy agencies can crack it, at least the

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-02 Thread Arthur R.
On 10/2/24 11:59, Dale wrote: Howdy, As some know from my posts, I been wanting to switch email providers.  I found Proton Mail and notice there is a app available for it in the Gentoo tree.  It appears to have Gentoo support unlike most.  Does anyone here use Proton email service?  It may be m

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-01 Thread mad . scientist . at . large
I'm using it, for over 5 years now.  Generally very happy, great up time and fast bug squashing. The only real issue I have is it's become slower at log on (fine after that other than logging out) since they started offering calendars and other gadgets.  Slightly annoyed that their proxy servic

[gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service?

2024-10-01 Thread Dale
Howdy, As some know from my posts, I been wanting to switch email providers.  I found Proton Mail and notice there is a app available for it in the Gentoo tree.  It appears to have Gentoo support unlike most.  Does anyone here use Proton email service?  It may be more secure than I need but it sou

Re: [gentoo-user] How to setup internal email sending

2024-09-30 Thread ralfconn
Il 29/09/24 21:42, Dale ha scritto: ralfconn wrote: Funny, [4] suggests going back to seamonkey for movemail support. I once was a happy seamonkey user then switched to FF/TB because SM seemed unmaintained, but from the website it looks like it's still alive and kicking. raf [1] https://bugz

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 30 September 2024 11:00:09 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 03:20:06PM +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 13:03:04 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > On Sunday 29 September 2024

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-30 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 9/29/24 10:20 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Yes, but why has FF shrugged off the standard presentation of a > program window? Because they want to. Because other browsers do it. Because Desktop Environments have started to do it. Because none of these three groups care what users want. > A

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 03:20:06PM +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Sunday 29 September 2024 13:03:04 BST Michael wrote: > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: > > > > It's actually been like this a while

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6 / KDE upgrade weirdo

2024-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/09/2024 11:04, Michael wrote: On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:04:42 BST Wols Lists wrote: Since I emerged and Plasma got upgraded, my configuration isn't remembered from the previous state, nor does it get saved ... Then I ran dolphin from the command line, and got an error that REALLY doe

Re: [gentoo-user] How to setup internal email sending

2024-09-29 Thread Dale
ralfconn wrote: > Il 31/08/24 19:55, Michael ha scritto: >> On Saturday, 31 August 2024 18:37:06 BST ralfconn wrote: >> >>> I did not have success making the mail client (thunderbird in my case) >>> read from a local mailbox so I ended up configuring the MTA >>> (nullmailer) >>> to forward the mess

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/09/2024 13:03, Michael wrote: On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar unde

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/09/2024 11:47, Viorel Munteanu wrote: La 29.09.2024 12:08, Wols Lists a scris: It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar underneath it. So I have an "X" to close thunderbird with on the search bar,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to setup internal email sending

2024-09-29 Thread ralfconn
Il 31/08/24 19:55, Michael ha scritto: On Saturday, 31 August 2024 18:37:06 BST ralfconn wrote: I did not have success making the mail client (thunderbird in my case) read from a local mailbox so I ended up configuring the MTA (nullmailer) to forward the messages produced by my local daemons or

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 September 2024 13:03:04 BST Michael wrote: > On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: > > > It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its > > > title bar. The top bars are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Michael
On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: > > It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its > > title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar underneath > > it. So I have an "X

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: > It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its > title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar underneath > it. So I have an "X" to close thunderbird with on the search bar, but > that's it. The "v"

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Viorel Munteanu
La 29.09.2024 12:08, Wols Lists a scris: It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar underneath it. So I have an "X" to close thunderbird with on the search bar, but that's it. The "v" and "^" to maximise a

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6 / KDE upgrade weirdo

2024-09-29 Thread Michael
On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:04:42 BST Wols Lists wrote: > Since I emerged and Plasma got upgraded, my configuration isn't > remembered from the previous state, nor does it get saved ... > > Then I ran dolphin from the command line, and got an error that REALLY > doesn't make sense! > > anthony

[gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity

2024-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost its title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar underneath it. So I have an "X" to close thunderbird with on the search bar, but that's it. The "v" and "^" to maximise and minimise aren't there because the bar

[gentoo-user] Plasma 6 / KDE upgrade weirdo

2024-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
Since I emerged and Plasma got upgraded, my configuration isn't remembered from the previous state, nor does it get saved ... Then I ran dolphin from the command line, and got an error that REALLY doesn't make sense! anthony@thewolery ~/Scans/HP-M477/2024_09_28 $ dolphin . & [1] 23240 anthony

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 05:44:08AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, >>> something >>> like this may help: >>> >>> https://proton.me/mail >> I'll have to check into that more.  I'm not sure I could send my sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 26 September 2024 22:11:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 142.251.116.108... >> Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable >> root@Gentoo-1 / # >> >> >> Can't connect.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Michael
On Friday 27 September 2024 17:28:13 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > >>> You do know about the msmtp man page, right? > >> > >> Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, > >> I'm not sure a man page is going to help much. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread John Blinka
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:43 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 05:44:08AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > > That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, > something > > > like this may help: > > > > > > https://proton.me/mail > > > > > > I'll have to check in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > >>> You do know about the msmtp man page, right? >> Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, >> I'm not sure a man page is going to help much. > The working configuration I provided didn't have an alias (or aliases

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Matt Connell wrote: >> On Wed, 2024-09-25 at 15:43 -0500, Dale wrote: >> No one here has their system set up to use Gmail for system >> emails???  > I wouldn't consider gmail an option for any emails, system or > otherwise. > >> On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 02:28 -0500, Dale wrote: >> If you know a email

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: >> You do know about the msmtp man page, right? > > Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, > I'm not sure a man page is going to help much. The working configuration I provided didn't have an alias (or aliases) command in it. > That s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > >> OK.  I added that line to the config file.  Then it gives me this error.  >> >> >> root@Gentoo-1 / # echo foo | msmtp -v bogus >> msmtp: /etc/msmtprc: line 5: unknown command alias >> root@Gentoo-1 / # > Sorry, my bad. It's aliases not alias:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday 27 September 2024 13:11:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all >>> (ssmtp/ >>> msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem. >>> You >>> need to sort out the network connection

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > OK.  I added that line to the config file.  Then it gives me this error.  > > > root@Gentoo-1 / # echo foo | msmtp -v bogus > msmtp: /etc/msmtprc: line 5: unknown command alias > root@Gentoo-1 / # Sorry, my bad. It's aliases not alias: $ man msmtp | grep alias

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > Sep 26 19:04:26 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Executing test of to root ... Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 msmtp[18815]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errormsg='the server sent an empt

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: >>> Sep 26 19:04:26 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Executing test of to root ... >>> Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 msmtp[18815]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on >>> auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errormsg='the >>> server sent an empty reply' exitcode=EX_PROTOCOL >> A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Michael
On Friday 27 September 2024 13:11:46 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all > > (ssmtp/ > > msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem. > > You > > need to sort out the network connection first, before yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Michael
On Thursday 26 September 2024 22:11:20 BST Dale wrote: > root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 > Trying 142.251.116.108... > Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable > root@Gentoo-1 / # > > > Can't connect. Well, that explains a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > >> It says port 465 but it is using Oauth2 if that matters. > It doesn't. > >> I'll admit, the last time I got this working, I followed a guide and >> it just worked.  Once it worked, I left it alone.  I was scared that >> if I touched it, it wou

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > It says port 465 but it is using Oauth2 if that matters. It doesn't. > I'll admit, the last time I got this working, I followed a guide and > it just worked.  Once it worked, I left it alone.  I was scared that > if I touched it, it would stop working.  LOL  > > I c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I just did a quick test, and sending via smtp.gmail.com using an app >> password worked fine from mutt. I don't have msmtp set up at the >> moment. > Ijust set up msmtp and it works too. Below is the msmtp config, > > * If you want,

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!]

2024-09-26 Thread Mitchell Dorrell
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 07:41 Arsen Arsenović wrote: > I do wonder if we should keep s6, runit and daemontools in that virutal > though, given that we can't boot them. Perhaps they'd be fine behind a > USE flag. I'll propose that. > So, this is a case where you definitely always need one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 142.251.116.108... >> Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable >> root@Gentoo-1 / # >> >> Can't connect. Well, that explains a l

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > I removed ssmtp and installed msmtp. I think I got the config set up > but it is different so I may not have it right. It doesn't work tho. > From messages. > > > Sep 26 10:03:33 Gentoo-1 smartd[27728]: Executing test of to root ... > Sep 26 10:05:40 Gentoo-1 msmtp[3

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> It looks like your network is broken. Try this: >>> >>> $ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >>> Trying 209.85.145.109... >>> Connected to smtp.gmail.com. >>> Escape character is '^]'. >>> 220 smtp.gmail.co

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 > Trying 142.251.116.108... > Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable > root@Gentoo-1 / # > > Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Grant Edwards wrote: > I just did a quick test, and sending via smtp.gmail.com using an app > password worked fine from mutt. I don't have msmtp set up at the > moment. Ijust set up msmtp and it works too. Below is the msmtp config, * If you want, replace "account gmail" with "

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It looks like your network is broken. Try this: >> >> $ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 209.85.145.109... >> Connected to smtp.gmail.com. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP 8926c6da1cb9f-4d6097

Re: [gentoo-user] French binhost down

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Alexis Praga wrote: > Hi, > > Just found out that http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/ (French mirror > that I use for binaries) is down. > Is there anyone that can be notified for that ? > > http://gentoo.mirrors.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ works fine. > > Thanks, > > Alexis I forwarded a c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> I removed ssmtp and installed msmtp. I think I got the config set up >> but it is different so I may not have it right. It doesn't work tho. >> From messages. >> >> >> Sep 26 10:03:33 Gentoo-1 smartd[27728]: Executing test of to root ... >> S

[gentoo-user] French binhost down

2024-09-26 Thread Alexis Praga
Hi, Just found out that http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/ (French mirror that I use for binaries) is down. Is there anyone that can be notified for that ? http://gentoo.mirrors.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ works fine. Thanks, Alexis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Matt Connell
>On Wed, 2024-09-25 at 15:43 -0500, Dale wrote: > No one here has their system set up to use Gmail for system > emails???  I wouldn't consider gmail an option for any emails, system or otherwise. > On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 02:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > If you know a email service that isn't to expensiv

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> Sep 26 10:03:33 Gentoo-1 smartd[27728]: Executing test of to root ... >> Sep 26 10:05:40 Gentoo-1 msmtp[30861]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on >> auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errormsg='cannot >> connect to smt

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 26 September 2024 11:44:08 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote: ssmtp stopped working with a conventional password when Google introduced 2- >>> Step-Verification for their GMail account. Consequently, t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: >>> It used to be the case you could set up an 'App Password' without having to >>> provide them with your phone number and other 'none-of-their-business' >>> personal information, but for some years now they have been asking for more >>> inform

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 05:44:08AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, > > something > > like this may help: > > > > https://proton.me/mail > > > I'll have to check into that more.  I'm not sure I could send my system > emails through tha

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I was looking at fastmail but which ever you go with, you should setup > your own domain and that way if you don't like your provider you can > change without changing your email address. I"ve decided to do that several times over the past couple de

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> It used to be the case you could set up an 'App Password' without having to >> provide them with your phone number and other 'none-of-their-business' >> personal information, but for some years now they have been asking for more >> information to allow you to com

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread covici
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 03:28:47 -0400, Dale wrote: > > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 16:43:09 -0400, > > Dale wrote: > >> Dale wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I posted the other day about my email setup.  Then it hit me, while I > >>> copied the settings over, I never tested it. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Michael
On Thursday 26 September 2024 11:44:08 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote: > >> ssmtp stopped working with a conventional password when Google > >> introduced 2- > > > > Step-Verification for their GMail account. Consequently, to be able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote: >> ssmtp stopped working with a conventional password when Google >> introduced 2- > Step-Verification for their GMail account. Consequently, to be able to > continue using ssmtp you need to set up an 'App Password' and use

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Müller
On 2024-09-02 21:44, Dale wrote: > Sep  2 21:23:08 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Executing test of to root ... > Sep  2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20757]: Unable to connect to > "smtp.gmail.com" port 587. > Sep  2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20757]: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587 > Sep  2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 sma

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Michael
On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote: > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 16:43:09 -0400, > > > > Dale wrote: > >> Dale wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I posted the other day about my email setup. Then it hit me, while I > >>> copied the settings over, I never te

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Dale
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 16:43:09 -0400, > Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I posted the other day about my email setup.  Then it hit me, while I >>> copied the settings over, I never tested it.  So, I tested it.  Sure >>> enough, no email sent.  Got error messag

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread covici
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 16:43:09 -0400, Dale wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I posted the other day about my email setup.  Then it hit me, while I > > copied the settings over, I never tested it.  So, I tested it.  Sure > > enough, no email sent.  Got error messages tho.  I mostly, maybe only,

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 08:25:12PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote > I think the two of you are talking past each other. What did Arsen mean > by "the vague concept of IPv6"? I suspect he meant: > > You are trying to solve a concrete user issue with your browsing. Correct. > Your idea of how to sol

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
f how to solve the user issue is to blame IPv6, then get all meta about how to solve it and decide that the vague concept of IPv6 must be eradicated and purged from the public consciousness -- rather than disabling the specific issue that is causing problems. > I'm not the only one

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2024-09-24 21:42:23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > > Please do not disable the USE=ipv6, as that is *utterly* insane. It also > does approximately nothing. In packages which support this USE flag, > which is rare, it causes the code to use old, untested APIs which only > support ipv4, rather than new,

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!

2024-09-25 Thread Walter Dnes
This is about solving a bug that makes browsing unbearable. I'm not the only one. See archive https://public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/14d2d8af-e7b9-d5e6-06c1-a7f3ad01a...@gmail.com/ > When syncing portage today I saw what the delay is: apparently it > tries ipv6 twice, fails, th

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-25 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Hi, > > I posted the other day about my email setup.  Then it hit me, while I > copied the settings over, I never tested it.  So, I tested it.  Sure > enough, no email sent.  Got error messages tho.  I mostly, maybe only, > use this for SMART drive info.  If it detects failure or prob

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