[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread James
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > 'man portage' does not show the use of the (><=) syntax > as an example for emerge? Sorry for my sloppiness I should have been more precise (more coffee required). It should have read: 'man portage' does not show the use of the (><=) syntax within the

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread James
Arttu V. gmail.com> writes: > More reading: ebuild(5)" Ah, ok so there is not restriction on using any of the the boolean operators in any config file underneath /etc/portage? as section 5 does not mention any > So, as a conclusion, you probably want to use ~ instead

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > This is my (mis)conception, although, as you have suggest, > > there are (gentoo) cultural norms that do suggest > > certain boolean operations should not be used, > > in say for example, package.keywords? > That's more just a safeguard against forgetting yo

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/23/2009 05:40 PM, James wrote: [...] So entries in package.keywords should just have the ~ in front of them? No point in using other boolean operations in the package.keywords file? There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you want to do. ~: This version an

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: > There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you > want to do. Ok got it. Now how do I unmask the version of: app-arch/xz-utils Available versions: ** James

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > make the app-arch/xz-utils- (SVN) version available. > This ebuild doesn't have a valid KEYWORDS line, try something less broken. OK, I tried is because there does not seem to be other dependancies. Pick an example for me, cause nothing I ever do

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/23/2009 06:28 PM, James wrote: Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you want to do. Ok got it. Now how do I unmask the version of: app-arch/xz-utils Available versions: ** By putting: app-arc

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > I cheat and just do this: > x11-wm/enlightenment * ~* ** Does not work for xz-utils. Neil's post may be the reason, but there is definately nothing I've read (in man pages) to distinguish these anomalous cases? > But enlightenment is a special case. e17

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Arttu V.
On 6/22/09, James wrote: > Where do I read more and find more of the latest example for > syntax with portage and the different files therein? > It should have read: > > 'man portage' does not show the use of the (><=) syntax > within the package.keywords file ? No, but it instructs one to peek

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 22 June 2009 17:51:31 James wrote: > So, as a conclusion, you probably want to use ~ instead of >= in there > > > as you apparently are running a mostly stable box (arch) instead of > > testing (~arch)? > > This is my (mis)conception, although, as you have suggest, > there are (gentoo) c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:31 + (UTC), James wrote: > I'm mostly running stable with exceptions being enabled > via the /etc/portage file structure. Usually it's small, > but now with kde4, BLOAT is my modus operandi, > not by choice.. It's easier to manage if you make portage.keywords a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:31 + (UTC), James wrote: > > >> I'm mostly running stable with exceptions being enabled >> via the /etc/portage file structure. Usually it's small, >> but now with kde4, BLOAT is my modus operandi, >> not by choice.. >> > > It's easi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:17:16 -0500, Dale wrote: > > All package.* files in /etc/portage can be replaced a directories, > > then all the files in that directory are considered as a whole. > For some reason, my light bulb has still not came on so here comes some > questions. I would create /etc/po

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 01:17:16 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:31 + (UTC), James wrote: > >> I'm mostly running stable with exceptions being enabled > >> via the /etc/portage file structure. Usually it's small, > >> but now with kde4, BLOAT is my modus operand

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-22 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 01:17:16 Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:31 + (UTC), James wrote: >>> I'm mostly running stable with exceptions being enabled via the /etc/portage file structure. Usually it's small, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like > KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going > to have to check to see if autounmask supports this too. It does, it creates a file called autounmask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like >> KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going >> to have to check to see if autounmask supports this too. >> > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:38:32 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like > >> KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going > >> to have to check to se

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Weitao Sun
Alan McKinnon wrote: > There's also gdm. But I don't talk about gdm. It's personal, and painful. > Don't ask :-) > Well, tell us why you don't like gdm. :-) ;-p __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4180 (20090623) __ The message was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:38:32 Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:27:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Well that's easy, just don't use kdm :-) > > If you want pretty, there's entrance > If you want light, there's slim > If you want hard-core, there's xdm If you want lazy, use kdm with auto-login. -- Neil Bothwick .sig? we don't need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Arttu V.
On 6/22/09, James wrote: > Arttu V. gmail.com> writes: > >> More reading: ebuild(5)" > > Ah, ok so there is not restriction on using any of the > the boolean operators in any config file underneath > /etc/portage? as section 5 does not mention any Well, for those files t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:40:51 + (UTC), James wrote: > app-arch/xz-utils > Nothing I tried in either package.keywords or package.unmask > make the app-arch/xz-utils- (SVN) version available. This ebuild doesn't have a valid KEYWORDS line, try something less broken. -- Neil Bothwick Head

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 16:40:51 James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > > This is my (mis)conception, although, as you have suggest, > > > there are (gentoo) cultural norms that do suggest > > > certain boolean operations should not be used, > > > in say for example, package.keywords?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 17:49:40 James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > * removes masking keywords if the package is stable on your arch > > ~* removes masking keywords if the package is stable on any arch > > ** removes masking keywords for the package unconditionally > > none of th

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Marc Christiansen
Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ebuild UD] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 [1.4.4] > [ebuild UD] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-3-r1 [3.2] > [nomerge ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.01 > [ebuild UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r8 [5.8.7-r2] > [ebuild UD]sys-devel/libpe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 09:12, a tiny voice compelled Marc Christiansen to write: > Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ebuild UD] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 [1.4.4] > > [ebuild UD] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-3-r1 [3.2] > > [nomerge ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.01 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Holly Bostick
Ernie Schroder schreef: > On Monday 12 December 2005 09:12, a tiny voice compelled Marc > Christiansen to write: > >> Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> [ebuild UD] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 [1.4.4] [ebuild UD] >>> sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-3-r1 [3.2] [nomerge ] >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:50:17 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde > > All of these ~x86 packages were brought in at that time This is exactly why you should not use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line. It applies to the whole emerge process, so even if KDE would be h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 10:11, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: > Ernie Schroder schreef: > > On Monday 12 December 2005 09:12, a tiny voice compelled Marc > > > > Christiansen to write: > >> Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> [ebuild UD] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 10:35, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:50:17 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde > > > > All of these ~x86 packages were brought in at that time > > This is exactly why you should not use ACCEPT_KEYWO

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:20 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > This is exactly why you should not use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command > > line. It applies to the whole emerge process, so even if KDE would be > > happy with the installed version of the dependencies, you have told > > emerge to upgra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 11:13, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:20 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > > This is exactly why you should not use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command > > > line. It applies to the whole emerge process, so even if KDE would be > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Holly Bostick
Ernie Schroder schreef: > On Monday 12 December 2005 10:11, a tiny voice compelled Holly > Bostick to write: > Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ebuild UD] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 [1.4.4] [ebuild > UD] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-3-r1 [3.2] [nomerge ] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-12 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 12:28, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: > In any case, some time must have passed and you logged off, shut down, > or in some other way you must have closed the current login session in > the term and begun another, which used the 'regular' settings read fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords/kde

2005-12-13 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Monday 12 December 2005 11:23, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: > On Monday 12 December 2005 11:13, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to > > write: > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:20 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > > > This is exactly why you should not use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on t