[gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Grant
I just sat through about 5 minutes of 100% CPU usage and a thrashing hard disk. I ran top and it reported 0% idle CPU, but the list of processes totaled maybe 20% CPU usage. How can this be? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 February 2007, Grant wrote: > I just sat through about 5 minutes of 100% CPU usage and a thrashing > hard disk. I ran top and it reported 0% idle CPU, but the list of > processes totaled maybe 20% CPU usage. How can this be? > > - Grant Most likely you only looked at user cpu % a

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread brullo nulla
Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the system and niced times as well. p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in context. sob. it's not the first time I hear this. What should I believe to really k

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 14 February 2007 18:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 14 February 2007, Grant wrote: > > I just sat through about 5 minutes of 100% CPU usage and a thrashing > > hard disk. I ran top and it reported 0% idle CPU, but the list of > > processes totaled maybe 20% CPU usage. How can this be?

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2007, brullo nulla wrote: > > Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the > > system and niced times as well. > > > > p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. > > Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in context. > > sob.

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:25:27 pm brullo nulla wrote: > > Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the > > system and niced times as well. > > > > p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. > > Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in contex

RE: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:14 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame? On Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2007, brullo nulla wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:31:31 -0500 "Timothy A. Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I cannot trust the tools provided by the OS for finding out whats > going on-- than what can I trust -- this is intolerable! - if it is > simply a situation if a non root user not being able to see root > p

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Pongrácz István
2007. 02. 14, szerda keltezéssel 13.28-kor Jerry McBride ezt írta: > I tracked my 100% cpu usage to FAMD... Killing it instantly freed the cpu... Change to gamin. The same function in much better. I did it about a year ago. (Or less, I don't remember). It solved me some other problems (CD lock dow

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 02:48:18 pm Pongrácz István wrote: > 2007. 02. 14, szerda keltezéssel 13.28-kor Jerry McBride ezt írta: > > I tracked my 100% cpu usage to FAMD... Killing it instantly freed the > > cpu... > > Change to gamin. > The same function in much better. > I did it about a year

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2007, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 02:48:18 pm Pongrácz István wrote: > > 2007. 02. 14, szerda keltezéssel 13.28-kor Jerry McBride ezt írta: > > > I tracked my 100% cpu usage to FAMD... Killing it instantly freed the > > > > cpu... > > > > Change to

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 February 2007, brullo nulla wrote: > > Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the > > system and niced times as well. > > > > p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. > > Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in > > context. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 February 2007, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > If I cannot trust the tools provided by the OS for finding out whats > going on-- than what can I trust -- this is intolerable! - if it is > simply a situation if a non root user not being able to see root > processes that is one thing, BUT

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-15 Thread Michael Crute
On 2/15/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007, brullo nulla wrote: > > Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the > > system and niced times as well. > > > > p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. > > Don't believe the reading

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-15 Thread b.n.
Michael Crute ha scritto: >> You should use ps, top and free of course! Just realize that they lie... > > Seeing this thread reminded me of a blog article I saw on Virtual > Threads a while back... > http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html > > > He doe

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-16 Thread Mick
On Thursday 15 February 2007 22:02, b.n. wrote: > Michael Crute ha scritto: > >> You should use ps, top and free of course! Just realize that they lie... > > > > Seeing this thread reminded me of a blog article I saw on Virtual > > Threads a while back... > > http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-16 Thread Grant
When we say that top lies, we really mean that it is giving you an average over a looong period of cpu time, and you should interpret it as such. It's a trend, not an instant value. Shouldn't top have provided some kind of info for why the CPU usage was 100% for 5 minutes straight? If it do

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-16 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: > Shouldn't top have provided some kind of info for why the CPU usage > was 100% for 5 minutes straight? If it does display trends, shouldn't > it have picked up on that one? I bet it was updatedb. This is what top shows me when it is running: Cpu(s): 15.6% us, 12.6% sy, 0.3% ni,

Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?

2007-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 17 February 2007, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Shouldn't top have provided some kind of info for why the CPU usage > > was 100% for 5 minutes straight?  If it does display trends, > > shouldn't it have picked up on that one? > > I bet it was updatedb. This is what top shows me when it is ru