On 26/04/2015 23:28, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150426 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong,
>>> (2) what their choices are, (3) how to resolve the problem.
>> The process goes something like this:
>> 1. B
150427 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's deceptively hard
>> to automatically come up with a list of non-ridiculous suggestions
>> before the user in question dies of old age : https://xkcd.com/1425/ .
That expresses t
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize
that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them
better.
>>> If they "suck", they're no
On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>>
>>> More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize
>>> that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better.
>>
>> If they "suck", they're not worth issuing, are they ?
On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>
>> More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize
>> that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better.
>
> If they "suck", they're not worth issuing, are they ?
> I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:28:47 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> > More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize
> > that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them
> > better.
>
> If they "suck", they're not worth issuing, are they ?
Of course they are, obtuse err
150426 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong,
>> (2) what their choices are, (3) how to resolve the problem.
> The process goes something like this:
> 1. Become frustrated with the obtuse portage output
On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150426 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch.
>> I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening.
>
> +1 : Portage nee
150426 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch.
> I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening.
+1 : Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong,
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Running without -v doesn't help. I almost never use -v with emerge,
> > it's output is verbose enough as it is and burying useful messages in
> > even more trivial, not-for-users output makes decoding it even harder.
> >
> > emerge real
On Sunday 26 April 2015 15:49:19 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I disagree. emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from
> scratch. Right now it arrives at the conclusion (the top) and dumps it's
> data tree bottom-up, apparently stopping halfway and never getting to
> output what the top is.
On 04/26/2015 12:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> There is nothing to get out of, and there is no circular dep.
I didn't mean a true circular dep, more like you want this and it wants
that, repeat. :-)
Dan
On 26/04/2015 10:17, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed)
>>
>> This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends
>> on libXfont with this limitation: >
>> You only g
Alan McKinnon [15-04-26 13:36]:
> On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not
> > understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the
> > enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which blows fog int
On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not
> understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the
> enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which blows fog into my pain
> suffering brain... ;)))
>
> For
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed)
>
> This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends
> on libXfont with this limitation:
> You only get that sort of emerge output when portage is force
Alan McKinnon [15-04-26 09:44]:
> On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A novice asks the master Emerge:
> > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
> >
> > Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke:
> >
> > WARNING: One or more updates/rebui
On 26/04/2015 04:06, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Daniel Frey [15-04-26 03:12]:
>> On 04/25/2015 09:07 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A novice asks the master Emerge:
>>> "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
>>>
>>> Master Emerge moved a little bit and
On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A novice asks the master Emerge:
> "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
>
> Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke:
>
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency
> confli
Daniel Frey [15-04-26 03:12]:
> On 04/25/2015 09:07 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A novice asks the master Emerge:
> > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
> >
> > Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke:
> >
> > WARNING: One or more updates/rebu
On 04/25/2015 09:07 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A novice asks the master Emerge:
> "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
>
> Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke:
>
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency
> con
Hi,
A novice asks the master Emerge:
"Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke:
WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency
conflict:
x11-libs/libXfont:0
(x11-libs/libXfont-1.5.1:0/0::gentoo,
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