Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-07-07 Thread Danny YUE
On 2017-07-07 16:29, james wrote: > On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage >> and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. >> >> Which OS do you install on your

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-07-07 Thread james
On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage > and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. > > Which OS do you install on your Raspberry Pi? > > Gentoo? Raspbian? Or even...arch? > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 28 Jun 2017 06:21:00 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > rpi1 ~ # genlop -t gcc > * sys-devel/gcc > > Fri Jul 1 10:01:57 2016 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.9.3 >merge time: 1 day, 4 hours, 32 minutes and 26 seconds. > > Fri Nov 4 10:49:45 2016 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.9.4 >merge

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread Danny YUE
On 2017-06-27 22:21, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 28/06/17 02:29, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: >> Where they using the original RPI? I built LXQT on an RPI2 and it did >> not take me a day. >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM, R0b0t1 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 28/06/17 02:29, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: > Where they using the original RPI? I built LXQT on an RPI2 and it did > not take me a day. > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM, R0b0t1 > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:44 AM, konsolebox

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. > wrote: >> Where they using the original RPI? I built LXQT on an RPI2 and it did not >> take me a day. >> > > I had to build some packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: > Where they using the original RPI? I built LXQT on an RPI2 and it did not > take me a day. > I had to build some packages on device (RPi3), mostly the ones with autotool configuration bugs. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
Where they using the original RPI? I built LXQT on an RPI2 and it did not take me a day. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:44 AM, konsolebox wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:37 AM, R0b0t1

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:44 AM, konsolebox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:37 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> it's >> not experience. > > Ok. > Why do you think I made it up? I was quoting people who had done it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Danny YUE wrote: > > On 2017-06-27 02:59, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> I would advise to buy an open source device such as beaglebone not a >> closed source RPI, bb also has higher performance options and is a >> better company.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I would advise to buy an open source device such as beaglebone not a closed > source RPI, bb also has higher performance options and is a better company. > > I was not at all pleased with the transfer speed of an RPI I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-27 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:37 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > it's > not experience. Ok. -- konsolebox

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Danny YUE
On 2017-06-27 02:59, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I would advise to buy an open source device such as beaglebone not a > closed source RPI, bb also has higher performance options and is a > better company. > > I was not at all pleased with the transfer speed of an RPI I tried out,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Danny YUE
On 2017-06-26 16:53, james wrote: > On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage >> and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. >> >> Which OS do you install on your

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:42 PM, konsolebox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:26 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> Things like GCC can take >> nearly three days even on the Raspberry Pi 3. > > Is that based on your experience, or you're just guessing? > I've never

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I would advise to buy an open source device such as beaglebone not a closed source RPI, bb also has higher performance options and is a better company. I was not at all pleased with the transfer speed of an RPI I tried out, the low end arm stuff is garbage (high end like appliedmicro is

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017, 10:41:36 CEST schrieb Danny YUE: > Hi guys, > > I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage > and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. > > Which OS do you install on your Raspberry Pi? > > Gentoo? Raspbian? Or

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
It has never taken me 3 days to build anything on the RPI3 using Gentoo On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:42 AM, konsolebox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:26 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > Things like GCC can take > > nearly three days even on the Raspberry Pi 3. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:26 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > Things like GCC can take > nearly three days even on the Raspberry Pi 3. Is that based on your experience, or you're just guessing? -- konsolebox

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, E, 26.06.2017 kell 10:32, kirjutas R0b0t1: >> If you want to use Gentoo on an embedded device you should be ready >> to set up crossdev and a crossroot for it. > > That's for sure, except... RPi3 is NOT

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 26.06.2017 kell 10:32, kirjutas R0b0t1: > If you want to use Gentoo on an embedded device you should be ready > to set up crossdev and a crossroot for it. That's for sure, except... RPi3 is NOT an embedded device in any traditional sense of the word and I don't really like

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread james
On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage > and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. > > Which OS do you install on your Raspberry Pi? > > Gentoo? Raspbian? Or even...arch? > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Danny YUE wrote: > > Gentoo? Raspbian? Or even...arch? > > This might seems to be the wrong place to ask, but I consider Gentoo as > my first-place option, so I would like to know your experiences. > If you want to use Gentoo on an embedded

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
I have yet to use Raspbian. I have used mostly Arch and Gentoo Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 3:12 AM, konsolebox wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Danny YUE wrote: >> Any reasons? I want to hear some ideas to make the decision

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread konsolebox
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Danny YUE wrote: > Any reasons? I want to hear some ideas to make the decision ;-) > > Seriously, I do not think it is a good idea to compile using Raspberry > Pi because of the weak CPU. > True for Rasp. Pi 1, not 3. You can also just buy a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:16:29 +0800, Danny YUE wrote: > But till now nobody ever mentioned *official* raspbian OS. Funny. OK, I'll mention it. I generally use Raspbian because it just works. It contains drivers for most of the 3rd party hardware and those that are not included provide Raspbian

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Danny YUE
Gentoo 64 bit was made working on Raspberry Pi 3 not long ago. I tried Arch for a short time last year. I was really missing those USE flags and ability to lock/select software version. Also when I was using Arch, I always felt that it was pushing me hard to upgrade my system, which really feels

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
The next time I use Gentoo I am planning have my build directoy on seperate storage. I know I can cross compile, but building natively did not take as long as you might think. If you are looking for similicty then try Arch. On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
Well right now I am running Arch on my Pi mostly b/c when I was running Gentoo I was compiling natiavly. Arch has the benefit of running a minimal install and you can basically build from there. I had some issues running Gentoo, but that was mostly b/c I was building nativaly on the SD card. On

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Danny YUE
Any reasons? I want to hear some ideas to make the decision ;-) Seriously, I do not think it is a good idea to compile using Raspberry Pi because of the weak CPU. I prefer to cross compile on my PC when using Gentoo. On 2017-06-26 08:47, Herminio Hernandez, Jr.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
I prefer Gentoo or Arch. With Gentoo consider making /var/tmp/portage on USB drive. This way you have your build directory not on the SD card. On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:41 AM, Danny YUE wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network

[gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-06-26 Thread Danny YUE
Hi guys, I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. Which OS do you install on your Raspberry Pi? Gentoo? Raspbian? Or even...arch? This might seems to be the wrong place to ask, but I consider