Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-24 Thread Maxim Wexler
As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. I've decided to give your method a whirl. Are you talking about distcc here? That

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:54:57 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. I've decided to

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:07:26 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: sudo su - -c chroot /mnt/eee /bin/zsh That sudo shouldn't be there, the script used to use sudo for the commands, but now I just run it as root. -- Neil Bothwick It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
I have $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on the SD card, which is cheap enough to replace if too many OOo compiles toast it. And I took your advice 2. It's sloow I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly some compiles completed. Not as fast as my desktop of course, but faster than was expecting,

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
2. Don't change a winning team! If your kernel run's smoothly with no weird glutches in drivers, leave it be. Only update if you want new features. Just my 2p's worth Greetz, Mark Works for my desktop. I haven't updated it for years. Just poked along fixing this and that; if something stops

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Dale
Maxim Wexler wrote: Negatory. My dialup is attenuated by 8 miles of analog telephone line. When I'm mobile it's a different story. mw I was on a really crappy dial-up until recently. You have my deepest sympathies. Dial-up, of any kind, truly sucks. :-@ Funny thing is, our old

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. This suggests using the fetchonly switch, write the files to USB key while mobile

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
Funny thing is, our old phone lines were about that far too. Most of the time I got about 3KB/s of throughput. I hope yours is better than that. That's about the top speed here.

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:32:00 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: This suggests using the fetchonly switch, write the files to USB key while mobile and compile them later on the desktop. But when I do % emerge -pfuvND world I just get page after page of the mirrors list from make.conf. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 September 2009 22:32:00 Maxim Wexler wrote: As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. This suggests using

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: I used to do this. Trust me, it's more trouble than it's worth. A 4G memory card just for distfiles will solve the problem nicely. This includes the tree, distfiles and all the buildpkges on a fully loaded KDE desktop. r...@smoker / # du -shc /usr/portage/ 4.4G

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 10 September 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: HI group, My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. But now that I'm mobile I have the capability of doing a -uD world whenever it's required

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:58:37 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I do 'it' every morning. I am still tired, eix-sync, when I come back with my tea, I see the updates, emerge -auvD world, ready when the sugar is in the tea. Checking the list. Drinking some of the tea and contemplating the

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 September 2009 09:58:37 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 10 September 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: HI group, My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. But now that I'm mobile

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 10 September 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:58:37 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I do 'it' every morning. I am still tired, eix-sync, when I come back with my tea, I see the updates, emerge -auvD world, ready when the sugar is in the tea. Checking the

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Stapper
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 10 September 2009 09:58:37 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 10 September 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: HI group, My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need.

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 07:52:40PM -0600, Penguin Lover Maxim Wexler squawked: My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. You are a brave, brave man. With 4+8G, how much non-system space do you have left

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:30:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But I doubt the wisdom of updating an SSD netbook on the machine itself: 1. Wear on the SSD itself with all those compiles I have $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on the SD card, which is cheap enough to replace if too many OOo compiles toast it. 2.

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Rohit
But I doubt the wisdom of updating an SSD netbook on the machine itself: The best solution i've found so far (where RAM wasn't an issue) was to use temerge and 1600M RAM dedicated to it. netbook may not have that much memory free. Sorry if this was completely useless. Rohit

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Sep 2009, at 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... But I doubt the wisdom of updating an SSD netbook on the machine itself: 1. Wear on the SSD itself with all those compiles ... No harm in compiling on a hard-drive, via NFs or otherwise. I believe read speed of SSDs is fast, writes are

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:54:34 +0100, Stroller wrote: I have read many people talk about wear of flash memory to be a problem, but I don't think from anyone who's actually HAD a problem with it. I have read of many people using it happily for root filesystems over periods of years. Some

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread Dwayne Sykes
On Thursday 10 September 2009 6:54:34 pm Stroller wrote: On 10 Sep 2009, at 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... But I doubt the wisdom of updating an SSD netbook on the machine itself: 1. Wear on the SSD itself with all those compiles ... No harm in compiling on a hard-drive, via NFs

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-10 Thread James Ausmus
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: HI group, My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. But now that I'm mobile I have the capability of doing a -uD world

[gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-09 Thread Maxim Wexler
HI group, My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. But now that I'm mobile I have the capability of doing a -uD world whenever it's required without having to take days of dialup time. Question is, when's

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-09 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Wed, 09/09, Maxim Wexler wrote: === Is there some sort of rule-of-thumb when it comes to timing or spacing their updates that members use to keep gentoo happy? === Mine is at least once a week. But I usually do it every few days on my desktop. -- Keith Dart -- --

Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?

2009-09-09 Thread Philip Webb
090909 Maxim Wexler wrote: My netbook has only (4+8)G of sketchy SSD + SDHC RAM for everything and I am determined not to emerge anything I don't really need. But now that I'm mobile I have the capability of doing a -uD world whenever it's required without having to take days of dialup time.