Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:08:24 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's methods. Stupid, every one. When challenged, they couldn't say how their proposed new solutions would

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:12:37 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's methods. Stupid, every

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well the only constant is change, right? It is now that c is in doubt :) The trick is to spot the difference between change for the sake of change and change that does make sense. This usually means getting inside someone's head, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well the only constant is change, right? It is now that c is in doubt :) ooo! wicked pun! Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? The

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well the only constant is change, right? It is now that c is in doubt :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:25:04 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:25:04 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;) You're right, c isn't in doubt :P -- Neil Bothwick Minds are like parachutes; they only function when fully open.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;) And even if the results a true and not an error then there is a list of possible explanations. Most of them leave c as upper limit

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;) And even if the results a true and not an error then there is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Mol
On Oct 6, 2011 8:10 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread ny6p01
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 08:56:54AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/04/2011 06:16 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:20:07 -0700 schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: Why does Gentoo still 'standardize' on grub instead of going forward with grub2? Grub2 is weird (coming from anything that isn't grub2), and if you mess up the upgrade, you can't boot. It's a support nightmare.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 October 2011 17:47:21 Jonas de Buhr wrote: sometimes things indeed need to change in order to improve. I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's methods. Stupid, every one. When

[gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Dale
Hi, Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? Easy? Somewhere between? Thinking about switching. Get this over with before all the initramfs thingy kicks in. BTW, I still haven't got

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook, which I admittedly don't boot more than a couple of times a month. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/04/2011 06:16 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the