Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-14 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 14, 2008 1:19 AM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me explain. You began complaining because the Gentoo live cd *exists*, but it is out of date and didn't support your hardware. It's a reasonable complain in the assumption you need the Gentoo cd (and you can't do with anything else):

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-14 Thread b.n.
Galevsky ha scritto: The reason other distro have complex live cds for installing is that they *need that*. Gentoo does not need this additional complexity. Nevertheless a live cd there was, but as you experienced, it's more the trouble it causes than that it solves. I disagree. Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-14 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 14, 2008 5:54 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're excited by different things :) No doubt :) Gal' -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still no complaints about your opinion from my side ;-). *G* In short. An outdated InstallCD is bad and no InstallCD at all is bad, too. I agree that an outdated Install CD is bad. But I disagree, that no Install CD at all is bad. I think it's not bad.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Norman Rieß
Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still no complaints about your opinion from my side ;-). *G* In short. An outdated InstallCD is bad and no InstallCD at all is bad, too. I agree that an outdated Install CD is bad. But I disagree, that no

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball. How many live CDs provide these? None. But the portage snapshot is best fetched from the web anyway, as far as I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:20:04 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: This cannot be done, as the install CD has to be fetched over network anyway. At that time, the portage snapshot and handbook can be downloaded as well. I've already covered that in a previous reply to you. -- Neil Bothwick Is it

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:00:20 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: It is a lot more comfortable for the first-time installer. Why's that? Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by using an official install disc. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:24:52 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by using an official install disc. I don't understand that. What confidence? To install Gentoo, you need a way to partition your storage, create filesystems and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: Assuming you know what you are doing. If you've ever tried to help a number of less confident users through it, you'd know what I mean. While I don't disagree that a Gentoo live CD is absolutely necessary, you seem to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 13, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'd rather say, that it would be better, if there were no install CD at all. But it can be done. It's not worth the effort, though, as far as I'm concerned. Since your are not concerned about releasing them, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-13 Thread b.n.
Galevsky ha scritto: On Jan 13, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'd rather say, that it would be better, if there were no install CD at all. But it can be done. It's not worth the effort, though, as far as I'm concerned. Since your are not concerned about