[gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, My wife ran into a problem this evening that required I do a reboot. She runs Gnome. Sometimes something about her setup goes haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. In the past I've found that if we log her out and then in the console kill all processes left running w

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-28 Thread gentuxx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: >Hi, > My wife ran into a problem this evening that required I do a >reboot. She runs Gnome. Sometimes something about her setup goes >haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. In the >past I've found that if we

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/28/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kill -15 PID > kill -9 PID > killall -9 process_name > > but none worked. To make forward progress I just rebooted. > >Is there some other way I could have tried killing this process? Nope. Usually this means something went terribly wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Hi, As far as I know, this happens, when a process waiting for a hardware resource. Maybe something happened, which blocks the hardware, that means, the kernel process never returns to the userspace. This can be caused by bad/buggy hardware or buggy driver. So, Richard is right, check your

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/28/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/28/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kill -15 PID > > kill -9 PID > > killall -9 process_name > > > > but none worked. To make forward progress I just rebooted. > > > >Is there some other way I could have tried killing th

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread jarry
Richard Fish wrote: > Pullling a hard drive out of the system while it is running is an easy > way to duplicate this problem, as it will cause the kernel to enter an > interminable reset loop to try and recover I do not claim that what you said is not true, but once in the past, when I was youn

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do not claim that what you said is not true, but once in > the past, when I was young and dumb (now I'm old and dumb) > I intentionally pulled out that 80-wire data-cable from one > of my 2 ata-disks during heavy i/o-loading (copying

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Crute
On 11/28/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >My wife ran into a problem this evening that required I do a > reboot. She runs Gnome. Sometimes something about her setup goes > haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. In the > past I've found that if we log her

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Shawn Singh
Do you and your wife have separate logons and if so, does this only happen when she is logged into her account using Gnome? In the past I've seen problems on my sisters' computer that sound similiar to what you've described and I've blown way the files that are created with Gnome is setup (this is

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Daniel da Veiga
"kill -9 -1" should just kill all her processes, even the Xsession that she owns, and restart X. I would restart your manager (xdm, gdm) just to be sure. While you have your gnome locked, you could check what is running and if any process is defunct at console, so you would know wich app and/or gn

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Billy Holmes
Mark Knecht wrote: kill -15 PID kill -9 PID killall -9 process_name see if you can perform a "top" and find the process that is hung. if it has a state of "D", then you can't kill it. It's waiting for some type of IO or for some hardware. This is typical of a hardware failure, buggy driver,

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-29 Thread Billy Holmes
Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly it's a video driver issue? I'd say this is probably the first place to start looking. Try using an open source X driver and see if the problem goes away. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-30 Thread Travis Osterman
> Sometimes something about her setup goes > haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. I've had a similar issue and, for me, it's usually nautilus erroring. If I run '$ nautilus &' that usually fixes things (brings back wallpaper, icons, panels, etc).. HTH -- Travis -- ge

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/30/05, Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sometimes something about her setup goes > > haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. > > I've had a similar issue and, for me, it's usually nautilus erroring. > If I run '$ nautilus &' that usually fixes things (brin

Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes

2005-12-12 Thread Matthias Langer
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 16:34 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 11/30/05, Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sometimes something about her setup goes > > > haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. > > > > I've had a similar issue and, for me, it's usually nautilus err