[geo] Fwd: DACA-13: REMINDER - Call for Abstracts, Deadline for grant applications

2012-11-30 Thread Andrew Lockley
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Choffat Eva Brigitte" Date: Nov 30, 2012 8:26 AM Subject: DACA-13: REMINDER - Call for Abstracts, Deadline for grant applications To: "Choffat Eva Brigitte" REMINDER - DEADLINE Call for Abstracts with Grant Application Davos Atmosphere and Cryosph

Re: [geo] Re: 10min of maybe

2012-11-30 Thread Mike MacCracken
I don¹t recall where but I think such approaches have been analyzed previously. As I recall, the problem is displacement by the solar wind and the particles will get pretty quickly pushed out of intended orbit, slowed, and burned up in the atmosphere‹indeed, with so many particles, might that not h

Re: [geo] Re: 10min of maybe

2012-11-30 Thread euggordon
Good technical discussion, the key negative point omitted is that it would not be a local solution and would be good for somecountries or regions; not good for others. Such a solution would be acceptable only if global warming gets really bad and is unacceptable to all. - Original Message

Re: [geo] Re: 10min of maybe

2012-11-30 Thread Jim Fleming
Nothing new under the sun? There was a 1960 Soviet proposal for a Saturn-like ring around Earth to melt the polar ice cap. See Fixing the Sky, pp. 199-200: In Man Versus Climate (1960), Soviet authors Nikolai Petrovich Rusin and Liya Abramovna Flit surveyed a large number of schemes for climatic

[geo] Meanwhile, polar melting and sea level rise accelerating

2012-11-30 Thread RAU greg
Polar melting is accelerating, and so is sea level rise -- report Lauren Morello, E&E reporter Published: Friday, November 30, 2012 Ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are shrinking three times faster than they were in the 1990s, and their contribution to global sea level rise is growing, acco

RE: [geo] Your Vector diagram

2012-11-30 Thread David Keith
Andrew A few comments in response to this and the subsequent comment by 1. This vector representation is useful way to think about trade-offs when the climate response to CO2 and SRM is reasonably linear. This stuff is published as: Juan Moreno-Cruz, Katharine Ricke and David W. Keith. (2011).

RE: [geo] Your Vector diagram

2012-11-30 Thread Andrew Lockley
David Thanks for your response. My comments regarding soil moisture related to precipitation and evaporation over land specifically. Land isn't a closed system, as river flows provide a balancing term. Let us consider geoengineering to get us back to a ore industrial temperature or precipitation

RE: [geo] Your Vector diagram

2012-11-30 Thread Doug MacMartin
Andrew - I agree that if one were to only pick two variables, then temperature and soil moisture (or P-E as a reasonable proxy for it) might even be better ones to pick than temperature and precipitation. However, given that geoengineering will change both precip and evaporation, it isn't obvious