Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-07 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 7 April 2017 at 13:26, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 01:12:42PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > >> approach based on suggesting/requesting to join SAC and join admin efforts >> or join gogs/gitea and contribute, whenever someone expresses interest or >> makes a

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-07 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 01:12:42PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > approach based on suggesting/requesting to join SAC and join admin efforts > or join gogs/gitea and contribute, whenever someone expresses interest or > makes a feature request to SAC is not an acceptable policy. Why not ? OSGeo

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-07 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 7 April 2017 at 11:41, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 05:17:04PM -0400, Regina Obe wrote: > >> That said I only work for free on projects I contribute to and/or am >> emotionally attached to. If it helps OSGeo that's good. >> If I'm getting paid for it to ensure

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-07 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 05:17:04PM -0400, Regina Obe wrote: > How many people in OSGeo community even know about such an offer? It was offered on the SAC list to give SAC members priority on taking the offer (due to the voluntary service they gave to OSGeo already). Given the lack of response

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 6 April 2017 at 23:17, Regina Obe wrote: >> Another problem w/ maintaining OSGeo-hosted infrastructure is lack of admins >> even remotely interested in getting a contract. >> Year ago Sandro, if I'm correct, pioneered sysadmins contracting for OSGeo >>

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 6 April 2017 at 22:46, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 10:32:07PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > >> Drone has zero value. > > At this very moment "Dronie" is the only green badge we have here: > https://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ > > But as Travis is also green in the

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Regina Obe
> Another problem w/ maintaining OSGeo-hosted infrastructure is lack of admins > even remotely interested in getting a contract. > Year ago Sandro, if I'm correct, pioneered sysadmins contracting for OSGeo > (https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2016-May/007032.html). > Year later... I have

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Regina Obe
Here are my thoughts mostly in-line with strk and speaking from my selfish point of view. On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 06:41:27PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> >> Drone is rather an interesting addition, not something to rely on, from my >> POV. >> It does not support builds on Windows. I'm not

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 06:41:27PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > > Drone is rather an interesting addition, not something to rely on, from my > POV. > It does not support builds on Windows. I'm not even sure it supports > builds on OS X. > (I mean 'guest' OS, not host). We have Jenkins

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 6 April 2017 at 16:05, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 03:59:21PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > >> Anyhow, I am going to use GitHub (and PRs) as the primary >> channel for commits, to allow myself the advantage of pre-factum CI.. > > Pre-factum CI is currently

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 03:59:21PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > Wiki should go or be used exclusively as scratchpad. > > Once that is done, we can think of re-building GEOS website > with proper docs, etc. (see PROJ.4, PDAL as examples). Why do you see wiki destruction is neede to start GEOS

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 10:24:38AM -0400, Daniel Baston wrote: > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote: > > > We already have mirrors both on github.com and gitlab.com, this should > > be enough to not keep away any contributor (and indeed we do are merging > > pull

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Daniel Baston
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote: > We already have mirrors both on github.com and gitlab.com, this should > be enough to not keep away any contributor (and indeed we do are merging > pull requests opened on those infrastructure). > We are, however, turning

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 03:59:21PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > Anyhow, I am going to use GitHub (and PRs) as the primary > channel for commits, to allow myself the advantage of pre-factum CI.. Pre-factum CI is currently also available via Gogs, although more convoluted (it takes explicitly

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 6 April 2017 at 15:05, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 11:47:25AM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> On 6 April 2017 at 11:39, Sandro Santilli wrote: > >> > This was the plan since February 2016: >> >

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 11:47:25AM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > On 6 April 2017 at 11:39, Sandro Santilli wrote: > > This was the plan since February 2016: > > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geos-devel/2016-February/007404.html > > A plan rolling for year(s) is a plan to be

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 6 April 2017 at 11:39, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 02:27:26AM -0700, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> >> I wasn't aware we are going to stick to Trac. PIT(Y|A). > > This was the plan since February 2016: >

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 02:27:26AM -0700, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > > I wasn't aware we are going to stick to Trac. PIT(Y|A). This was the plan since February 2016: https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geos-devel/2016-February/007404.html I actually think it's much less pain this way as: 1) We

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-06 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Mateusz Loskot wrote > On 4 April 2017 at 23:58, Regina Obe > lr@ > wrote: >> As a core maintainer, does it really matter so much to you whether you >> make your commits to Gogs or Github? > > No, it does not. I wasn't aware we are going to stick to Trac. PIT(Y|A). -- View this message

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-05 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 05:58:44PM -0400, Regina Obe wrote: > So that said, if strk is willing to support Gogs, I'm still a + 1 for Gogs, > and just mirror to GitHub similar to what PostgreSQL group does. > That will also satisfy some purists who don't want to use GitHub. We already have

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
And, as one of mantra requests processing admins, I can only confirm users do get annoyed and often share comments how annoying it is. Greg, most OSGeo projects have de facto switched to GitHub: 8 in 22 use OSGeo SVN 6 in 22 use OSGeo Track 21 in 22 use GitHub It somewhat indicates preferences

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 04/05/2017 01:27 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > I am really unclear on the troubles with people getting osgeo accounts > (have had one for years), but it seems that if that's a reason to use a > proprietary hosting service then it's better to fix the problem. You need to get a mantra (request a

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Greg Troxel
"Regina Obe" writes: > I don't know why it bugs me so much about reliance on GitHub, but it > does. Perhaps because I feel it's a free lunch that may not be so > free in the future And also I don't like that policies may be pushed > down on us that we don't necessarily want and

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 4 April 2017 at 23:58, Regina Obe wrote: > As a core maintainer, does it really matter so much to you whether you make > your commits to Gogs or Github? No, it does not. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Regina Obe
Mat, >> Then again I understand that maintaining an infrastructure like Gogs >> requires someone willing to do it or get paid for it, so that's even less of >> a free lunch but does give us more control over our destiny and how we >> integrate with other pieces of our infrastructure. > At

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 4 April 2017 at 22:54, Regina Obe wrote: > Mat, > > Can you state things you like about github over gogs. We have been discussing it over and over countless of times, with Sandro and some other OSGeo admins, on IRC especially. I see no point in debating GitHub vs alternatives,

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Regina Obe
: geos-devel [mailto:geos-devel-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:42 PM To: GEOS Development List <geos-devel@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ? On 4 April 2017 at 12:09, Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 4 April 2017 at 22:19, Daniel Baston wrote: > I'm not a PSC member, but I have done a bit of recent porting from JTS. > > I would also prefer hosting with GitHub. > > Especially lately, it is difficult to create an OSGeo account and I think > this may discourage

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Daniel Baston
I'm not a PSC member, but I have done a bit of recent porting from JTS. I would also prefer hosting with GitHub. Especially lately, it is difficult to create an OSGeo account and I think this may discourage participation. Dan On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Mateusz Loskot

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 4 April 2017 at 12:09, Sandro Santilli wrote: > I think we're finally ready to move the official repository > from SVN to GIT, after dealing with the known issues in > ticket https://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ticket/792 > [...] > > * So now which GIT repo ? * > > At the moment the GIT

Re: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Howard Butler
ent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:09 AM > To: geos-devel@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: [geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ? > > I think we're finally ready to move the official repository from SVN to GIT, > after dealing with the known issues in ticket > https://trac.osgeo.

[geos-devel] Ready to switch from SVN to GIT ?

2017-04-04 Thread Sandro Santilli
I think we're finally ready to move the official repository from SVN to GIT, after dealing with the known issues in ticket https://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ticket/792 What would need to be done next is: - Set SVN repository as read-only - Ask developers to push new changes to "the" GIT repo NOTE