Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-03-07 Thread Simone Giannecchini
My Take: - rename Beta to RC - rather than having an RC2 adding one more release to the existing train maybe with a shorter timeline if/as needed The rationale is giving users something testable that does not carry the Beta or RC tag as soon as possible and account for a initial shorter release c

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-03-06 Thread Torben Barsballe
There was some discussion on this topic in the PMC meeting. Salient points: - Should we rename the beta the RC (Basically, the fork/RC would now be 1 month before the .0 release and there wouldn't be a beta release anymore). - The most useful naming scheme for would be whatever people

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-24 Thread Torben Barsballe
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: > We could also cut the beta just to confirm master is releasable, and not > branch. Make the first release candidate the branch to achieve the same > effect. > > It has the advantage of less moving parts, but we do not get a code freeze > to f

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-22 Thread Torben Barsballe
PR's for the associated doc changes here: - https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1811 - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/2763 We also have a release process diagram which includes the freeze. While not critical, that could be updated - does anyone have the source files for i

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-18 Thread Torben Barsballe
First of all, the change seems reasonable, so +1 there. I have no issues with applying these changes right away for the beta release next week, and we can do a GSIP later. I'll also update the release docs while I do the release. Torben On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Andrea Aime wrote: > On

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-18 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Ian Turton wrote: > I agree we hardly ever see any feedback before the .0 release. Which is a > shame but nothing we do seems to make a difference to customers. > Ah hem, "users" :-p Cheers Andrea == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit htt

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-18 Thread Jody Garnett
We could also cut the beta just to confirm master is releasable, and not branch. Make the first release candidate the branch to achieve the same effect. It has the advantage of less moving parts, but we do not get a code freeze to focus on bugs. But as you point out that is not happening so much.

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-18 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 4:18 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > +1. It does seem that we are not getting much benefit from waiting until > RC to branch, and any fix would be applied to master and the new stable > before the .0 release. We could drop the RC altogether. The current > procedure incurs

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-16 Thread Ian Turton
I agree we hardly ever see any feedback before the .0 release. Which is a shame but nothing we do seems to make a difference to customers. So +1 for me Ian On 16 February 2018 at 09:32, Nuno Oliveira wrote: > I don't have any voting power, just want to express my +1 towards that > change ... a

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-16 Thread Simone Giannecchini
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-16 Thread Nuno Oliveira
I don't have any voting power, just want to express my +1 towards that change ... and indeed I don't see the advantage of the RC release. If users don't provide feedback, bug fix doesn't happen ... what are the advantages of having the RC release ? On 02/16/2018 03:18 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wro

Re: [Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-15 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
+1. It does seem that we are not getting much benefit from waiting until RC to branch, and any fix would be applied to master and the new stable before the .0 release. We could drop the RC altogether. The current procedure incurs not only a delay but also the work of an extra release (the RC).

[Geoserver-devel] Suggesting a small change in release procedures: can we cut the stable branch on beta?

2018-02-15 Thread Andrea Aime
Hi (apologies for the cross post), I would like to hear opinions on changing the release procedures slightly, and cutting the stable branch directly on the beta release. The reason for not doing the cut on beta but on RC originally was to push devs to concentrate on bug fixing. However, since then