Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread batguano999
What I'm hoping to do using get_iplayer is to be able to compare such results with an analysis or decoding to LPCM of the flv by other means. i.e. use ffmpeg or similar. I'm wondering if anyone else here has already done this, or has comments that would help. Hi Are you asking for

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Jim Lesurf j...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote: One complication here I've already hit is that IIUC the xfce mint distro I'm using doesn't provide ffmpeg but avcodec (?) I've installed a local version of ffmpeg but am unsure of how avcodec may differ from this in ways that may affect what I have in

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer jn.ml.gti...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Jim Lesurf j...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote: One complication here I've already hit is that IIUC the xfce mint distro I'm using doesn't provide ffmpeg but avcodec (?) I've installed a local version of ffmpeg but

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, batguano999 batguano...@zoho.com wrote: What I'm hoping to do using get_iplayer is to be able to compare such results with an analysis or decoding to LPCM of the flv by other means. i.e. use ffmpeg or similar. I'm wondering if anyone else here has already done this, or has

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014/11/08 09:47, Jim Lesurf wrote: What I'm hoping to do using get_iplayer is to be able to compare such results with an analysis or decoding to LPCM of the flv by other means. i.e. use ffmpeg or similar. I'm wondering if anyone else here has already done this, or has comments that would

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
Something possibly relevant avconv Used in Preference to ffmpeg Where Available changed in 2.83; see notes at: https://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/wiki/release283 and also changes in 2.87 Important note re: obsolete FFmpeg versions: (also for avconv) - see:

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2014/11/08 09:47, Jim Lesurf wrote: but not avcodec. (Or have I got its name wrong? Afraid I've forgotten if my memory was ever much better than nowdays. :-) ) The projects are ffmpeg and libav (a fork of ffmpeg). One of the

'fileprefix' filename templates are having characters elided

2014-11-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
With 2.84 etc this worked. With 2.90 (I've not used any of the intermediate versions), specifying for example: --fatfilename --whitespace --file-prefix $GRAB-SN130-002369 R=nameshort - Sseriesnum Eepisodenum - E=episodetitle 'E=episode' P=pid M=mode Z=duration F=firsbcastdate L=lastbcastdate

Re: 'fileprefix' filename templates are having characters elided

2014-11-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer jn.ml.gti...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: With 2.84 etc this worked. With 2.90 (I've not used any of the intermediate versions), specifying for example: --fatfilename --whitespace --file-prefix $GRAB... produces a final file name like: $GRAB... Oops. It

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how this list works. I'm on half a dozen other mailing lists all of which work the other way round ie. replies go to the list. Mutter. -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net

Re: 'fileprefix' filename templates are having characters elided

2014-11-08 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 08/11/2014 12:40, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: --fatfilename --whitespace --file-prefix $GRAB-SN130-002369 R=nameshort - --whitespace changed with 2.87. See the 2.87 release notes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list

Re: 'fileprefix' filename templates are having characters elided

2014-11-08 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 08/11/2014 13:52, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 08/11/2014 12:40, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: --fatfilename --whitespace --file-prefix $GRAB-SN130-002369 R=nameshort - --whitespace changed with 2.87. See the 2.87 release notes. Sorry - seems you already knew that. Will look again.

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how this list works. I'm on half a dozen other mailing lists all of which work the other way round ie. replies go to the list.

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Dave Liquorice
cough Me to. Read it in an email list or newsgroup the default reply should be back to the list/group otherwise threads dive off into private email. The use of Reply All means that the sender has to edit the recipient's or the recipient annoyingly gets the posting twice. Probably in the best

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
The person that runs this mailing list has VERY firm views about how they should work. This is at odds with every other mailing I have ever been on, which must be around 50 by now. He feels it should work the same way as a direct email sent to multiple people, in that Reply goes just to the

Re: 'fileprefix' filename templates are having characters elided

2014-11-08 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 08/11/2014 13:58, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 08/11/2014 13:52, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 08/11/2014 12:40, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: --fatfilename --whitespace --file-prefix $GRAB-SN130-002369 R=nameshort - --whitespace changed with 2.87. See the 2.87 release notes. Sorry - seems

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Nick
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:36:19 + Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: The person that runs this mailing list has VERY firm views about how they should work. This is at odds with every other mailing I have ever been on, which must be around 50 by now. He feels it should work the same way

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
I read most of my email on my iPad 3, I find it much more convenient than firing up my Windows laptop. I can use the iPad wherever in the house I happen to be. I doubt Apple are going to listen to my requests to change the email software, and anyway I don't agree it does anything wrong. It

Re: OT: reply-to [was Re: iplayer audio to lpcm]

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
And when I Reply to All my own posting, it does go To: the list. So this is partly down to how other people are sending to the list. I suspect if they CC'd the list, then Reply to All also CC's the list, which is correct behaviour. So why are people CCing a mailing list in the first place? --

Re: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-08 Thread Jon Davies
On 5 November 2014 16:40, C E Macfarlane c.e.macfarl...@macfh.co.uk wrote: I believe that there is some policy concerning things like word-processor documents and spreadsheets, but I'm not aware of anything that covers publicly available raw electronic data. You've evidently not seen the

Re: OT: reply-to [was Re: iplayer audio to lpcm]

2014-11-08 Thread Dave Liquorice
Just use reply all. If somebody doesn't like duplicates, they can go to http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer and set Avoid duplicate copies of messages? to yes. Thanks for that, now set. Not an option I've seen before but then I'm not in the habit of exploring mailman

Re: OT: reply-to [was Re: iplayer audio to lpcm]

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: Just use reply all. If somebody doesn't like duplicates, they can go to http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer and set Avoid duplicate copies of messages? to yes. I'll try that and see if it puts the *list* address in

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: The person that runs this mailing list has VERY firm views about how they should work. This is at odds with every other mailing I have ever been on, which must be around 50 by now. He feels it should work the same way as a direct email sent to

Re: OT: reply-to [was Re: iplayer audio to lpcm]

2014-11-08 Thread Jim Lesurf
On 08 Nov, Dave Liquorice allso...@howhill.com wrote: Just use reply all. If somebody doesn't like duplicates, they can go to http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer and set Avoid duplicate copies of messages? to yes. Thanks for that, now set. Same here. I'll see what

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 08/11/2014 14:10, Jim Lesurf wrote: On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how this list works. I'm on half a dozen other mailing lists all of which work the other

Re: Stopping Transcoding - Windows PVM

2014-11-08 Thread Kevin Lynch
Hi Chris I think you might simply have to use C:\Program Files (x86)\get_iplayerget_iplayer --prefs-show (to verify the state of the --aactomp3 flag) Then use --prefs-del --aactomp3 to clear the flag C:\Program Files (x86)\get_iplayerget_iplayer --prefs-del --aactomp3 INFO: Deleted option

Re: Stopping Transcoding - Windows PVM

2014-11-08 Thread CJB
Hi Kevin - thank you - that did the job. Speeded up my Run PVM too Chris B. On 08/11/2014, Kevin Lynch klyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I think you might simply have to use C:\Program Files (x86)\get_iplayerget_iplayer --prefs-show (to verify the state of the --aactomp3 flag) Then

Mailing list snafus

2014-11-08 Thread Charles Johnson
One of mine is that i never can see my own postings in Thunderbird, despite setting my options on the mailing list site to see my own postings ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: Mailing list snafus

2014-11-08 Thread Shevek
On 8 November 2014 19:33, Charles Johnson cehjohn...@gmail.com wrote: One of mine is that i never can see my own postings in Thunderbird, despite setting my options on the mailing list site to see my own postings That is actually Gmail behaviour - it detects that it is the same message you

Re: Mailing list snafus

2014-11-08 Thread Charles Johnson
On 08/11/14 19:38, Shevek wrote: That is actually Gmail behaviour - it detects that it is the same message you sent and doesn't deliver it to your inbox. Thanks for that. I suppose that could be remedied by sending from a non-Gmail account C. ___

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Charles Johnson
On 08/11/14 17:14, Alan Milewczyk wrote: so why duplicate a copy to an individual, as some seem to do on here? I suppose in certain cases it might be seen as 'belt and braces' behaviour (why not?) ___ get_iplayer mailing list

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:38:13PM +, Charles Johnson wrote: On 08/11/14 17:14, Alan Milewczyk wrote: so why duplicate a copy to an individual, as some seem to do on here? I suppose in certain cases it might be seen as 'belt and braces' behaviour (why not?) Because it can cause replies to

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-08 Thread C E Macfarlane
As requested in the original thread, I've created three patch files. 1) This patches get_iplayer v2.90 to use nice with the parameter -n 19, which by effectively making it run in the background compared with processes such as serving files, makes it more suitable for embedded devices acting

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 14:10 +, Jim Lesurf wrote: On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how this list works. I'm on half a dozen other mailing lists all of which

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 November 2014 21:24, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 14:10 +, Jim Lesurf wrote: On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how

Re:mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: Now think about what happens if you *don't* do people the courtesy of copying them directly. Some people will be cut out of the conversation *entirely* - only if they weren't mail list subscribers in the first place. Arguably they shouldn't have been

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 10:01:46PM +, Colin Law wrote: However the fact is that this is the way the administrator of the list want it to work and since he/she donates his free time to maintaining it we all have to be grateful for that and accept the way it works. Indeed. David's list, his

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 8 Nov 2014 at 17:14, Alan Milewczyk Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: On 08/11/2014 14:10, Jim Lesurf wrote: On 08 Nov, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: Blasted mailing list, I sent the message below as a personal reply, AGAIN. I simply cannot get my brain to accept how

Re: Re:mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:02 +, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: Now think about what happens if you *don't* do people the courtesy of copying them directly. Some people will be cut out of the conversation *entirely* - only if they

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
I had hoped by saying we'd discussed this before we could avoid all this rant. Apparently not. The facts as I see it are: 1) David has a VERY entrenched deeply held belief about this 2) almost no-one else on the list agrees with him in principle 3) notwithstanding 2), many agree David runs the

Re: mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
Cross posting between multiple mailing lists is something that I have a serious downer on. People don't always agree to their postings being published elsewhere, or their email address being publicised outside of the lists they have subscribed to. As such I regard issues about who a reply goes

Re: mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Alan Milewczyk
Agree totally, it's an absolute no-no AFAIAC. On 08/11/2014 22:40, Owen Smith wrote: Cross posting between multiple mailing lists is something that I have a serious downer on. People don't always agree to their postings being published elsewhere, or their email address being publicised

Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-08 Thread dinkypumpkin
It looks the BBC have removed the RTMP streams for live TV. At least, they're no longer where get_iplayer looks for them. If anyone knows that they are still running, and how to locate them, let me know. Since the live streams were switched to Adobe HDS a little while back, it's no surprise

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Square Penguin
On 08/11/2014 21:24, David Woodhouse wrote: Your email client — every email client — has (at least) two options for *how* to reply to an email. First there's the private reply which goes only to the sender of the original email. And then there's the public reply to all which goes to everyone

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
What is AOD? A TLA I don't recognise (something On Demand?) -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net Cambridge, UK On 8 Nov 2014, at 22:52, dinkypumpkin dinkypump...@gmail.com wrote: It looks the BBC have removed the RTMP streams for live TV. At least, they're no longer where get_iplayer looks

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-08 Thread Square Penguin
On 09/11/2014 00:23, Owen Smith wrote: What is AOD? A TLA I don't recognise (something On Demand?) Audio On Demand, I think. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Larmour
On 08/11/14 21:08, C E Macfarlane wrote: As requested in the original thread, I've created three patch files. 1)This patches get_iplayer v2.90 to use nice with the parameter -n 19, which by effectively making it run in the background compared with processes such as serving files, makes

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Larmour
On 08/11/14 22:01, Colin Law wrote: The flaw in this logic is that when I send a message to the list I am not sending it to individuals, I am sending it to the list. Not if you are replying to someone's message. Then you are replying to a message sent by a person - that is who you are

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Larmour
On 08/11/14 23:05, Peter S Kirk wrote: Yes, David runs the list. However, he should respect the preferences of list members who as you say almost no-one else on the list agrees with him in principle. I very much agree in principle, and in practice. David's reasoning is sound, and also

Bug report

2014-11-08 Thread Lucian Șandor
Hi all, When I issue a refresh, I get to see the whole list of programs, not only the new additions. I think this was not the behaviour until the new site scraper came along. It is pointless now, but as the iplayer archive increases to 30 days, it will become even worse. That scroll shouldn't be

bug in the scraper

2014-11-08 Thread Lucian Sandor
Hi all, When I issue a refresh, I get to see the whole list of programs, not only the new additions. I think this was not the behaviour until the new site scraper came along. It is pointless now, but as the iplayer archive increases to 30 days, it will become even worse. That scroll shouldn't be