BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread CJB
https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/bbc-iplayer-cracks-down-and-blocks-vpn-users/ CJB ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Jon Davies
On 9 October 2015 at 10:59, CJB wrote: > https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/bbc-iplayer-cracks-down-and-blocks-vpn-users/ so what? get-iplayer isn't intended to be used to avoid, work-around or breach the controls that the BBC apply to the content they make available on iplayer, so the fact that the B

RE: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread George Eycott
Although get_iplayer is not intended to bypass geographical restrictions, the news does explain why some people are getting the error messages that they have been seeing (bear in mind some people may be using a VPN from within the UK). They may have thought it was a get_iplayer issue whereas in fac

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread michael norman
On 09/10/15 11:33, George Eycott wrote: Although get_iplayer is not intended to bypass geographical restrictions, the news does explain why some people are getting the error messages that they have been seeing (bear in mind some people may be using a VPN from within the UK). They may have thought

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Mark Hammond
I use a VPN when on holiday in France - if you had to login to the Iplayer with your TV licence number then this would get around this. I agree that people who don't pay shouldn't be getting the content. Mark So the point here is what. I pay the BBC license fee and am happy to do so. I

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread CJB
Thank you George. Also I do know that many friends are ex-pats living overseas in warmer climes over the British winter. They are all BBC licence fee payers. They have now been cut off from accessing what they have already paid in advance for - use of iPlayer. How are they stealing programmes fro

RE: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread George Eycott
> So the point here is what. I pay the BBC license fee and am happy to do so. Me too. > If people outside of UK who do not pay the license fee are getting BBC > content for nothing via a VPN or anything else they are stealing stuff I > pay for. I agree - was not suggesting otherwise. Though the

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Fearghas Mckay
> On 9 Oct 2015, at 07:32, George Eycott wrote: > > I agree - was not suggesting otherwise. Though the overseas and VPN part of > your statement is irrelevant. If people do not pay the license fee and get > BBC stuff for nothing they are stealing stuff we pay for. Don't care where > they are or

RE: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread George Eycott
> So as a UK resident who can’t receive TV so I don’t pay for a TV licence you > think I should be regarded as a thief ? nice… Perhaps you should check the > current legal situation of the licence fee before accusing folk of stealing. You know when you wish you hadn't bothered. OK, so yes ther

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread John Crisp
On 09/10/15 11:59, CJB wrote: > https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/bbc-iplayer-cracks-down-and-blocks-vpn-users/ > On an entirely technical point it is clearly not all VPNs - I have just tested with 2 different ones that I can use and neither are currently blocked. Both are VPNs with endpoints I contr

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 09/10/2015 12:09, CJB wrote: Thank you George. Also I do know that many friends are ex-pats living overseas in warmer climes over the British winter. They are all BBC licence fee payers. They have now been cut off from accessing what they have already paid in advance for - use of iPlayer. I

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Tom
On 09/10/15 13:23, John Crisp wrote: On 09/10/15 11:59, CJB wrote: https://www.vpncompare.co.uk/bbc-iplayer-cracks-down-and-blocks-vpn-users/ On an entirely technical point it is clearly not all VPNs - I have just tested with 2 different ones that I can use and neither are currently blocked.

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Owen Smith
It can't be *all* VPNs since there is no way to detect from the traffic itself that it has been VPN'd (or at least you'd hope there isn't). If the blocking is by known IP addresses of commercial VPN providers then any private VPN people run themselves won't be blocked, until the BBC decides to f

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Jim web
In article , CJB wrote: > Thank you George. > Also I do know that many friends are ex-pats living overseas in warmer > climes over the British winter. They are all BBC licence fee payers. > They have now been cut off from accessing what they have already paid > in advance for - use of iPlayer.

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Jim web
In article , Fearghas Mckay wrote: > > On 9 Oct 2015, at 07:32, George Eycott wrote: > > > > I agree - was not suggesting otherwise. Though the overseas and VPN > > part of your statement is irrelevant. If people do not pay the license > > fee and get BBC stuff for nothing they are stealing st

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread michael norman
On 09/10/15 13:40, Jim web wrote: In article , CJB wrote: Thank you George. Also I do know that many friends are ex-pats living overseas in warmer climes over the British winter. They are all BBC licence fee payers. They have now been cut off from accessing what they have already paid in

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Fearghas McKay
> On 9 Oct 2015, at 08:45, Jim web wrote: > > Perhaps in return you should admit it is questionable that you can access > what you don't pay for. That might be fairer than semantic arguments about > the use of words like "strealing". Well I only listen to Radio4 online and occasionally podcasts

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Peter Corlett
On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 01:38:42PM +0100, Owen Smith wrote: > It can't be *all* VPNs since there is no way to detect from the traffic > itself that it has been VPN'd (or at least you'd hope there isn't). Let me crush your hopes: it's not actually all that difficult to fingerprint traffic and find

Re: BBC iPlayer cracks down and blocks VPN users

2015-10-09 Thread Jim web
In article <20151009135235.ga9...@mooli.org.uk>, Peter Corlett wrote: > It would be a terrible waste of BBC resources to play whack-a-mole > against end-users users running their own bespoke VPNs, because it's > harder and has less effect than just picking off larger VPN services as > they appear

unable to launch program

2015-10-09 Thread Jay Marcus
Hi, I have installed the program via the wizard, but I can't see any way to actually launch it - the program files are in my program folder, but no exe file, icon, etc. (My OS is Win 8.1.) Please help. Thanks, Jay. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_i

Re: iPlayer streams at 50fps progressive?

2015-10-09 Thread Jon Davies
On 8 October 2015 at 12:02, John Warburton wrote: > Hello, > > Is the BBC sending out live streams at 50fps progressive? FFprobe > seems to think so. And the pictures look like they're at 50fps, either > natively or de-interlaced. I hadn't noticed that, but it does appear to be the case! > When

Re: unable to launch program

2015-10-09 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 9 Oct 2015 at 21:07, Jay Marcus Jay Marcus wrote: > > I have installed the program via the wizard, but I can't see any way > to actually launch it - the program files are in my program folder, > but no exe file, icon, etc. (My OS is Win 8.1.) Please help. > > Thanks, > > Jay. Start, Prog