On Sat Jan 7 11:07:01 GMT 2017, RS wrote:
My apologies for the long delay in replying to this.
No need to apologise :-)
It seems the ICO had already decided there were clear privacy issues,
and had people working on it. It had written to the BBC
at the end of August and a response was due
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 00:13
On Thu Sep 29 17:19:37 BST 2016, RS wrote:
My concern is privacy. Did you read Vangelis's comment
about his research into what the information will be used for?
It is very different from what it says on the registration page.
The
On 03/10/16 08:54, CJB wrote:
You'd like the Radio Caroline archive site then > > http://www.azanorak.com/ > > http://www.azanorak.com/pub > >
http://www.azanorak.com//pub/stations etc, etc. > > Thousands of shows
from the 1960s etc. to download for free. > > Password 'freeradio' > >
You'd like the Radio Caroline archive site then
http://www.azanorak.com/
http://www.azanorak.com/pub
http://www.azanorak.com//pub/stations etc, etc.
Thousands of shows from the 1960s etc. to download for free.
Password 'freeradio'
Chris B.
On 03/10/2016, Alan Milewczyk
On 01/10/16 13:40, David Cantrell wrote:
Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to *any*
local radio, but given that some people do, I expect that there exist
people who want to listen to their local radio station online.
We're not all the same, you know.
I'm into
In article <57efb2d5.6000...@cantrell.org.uk>, David Cantrell
wrote:
> Maintaining and running a a large number of versions of a piece of
> software and everything that surrounds it for long periods of time while
> also upgrading it to provide new features for new users is
get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Tony Quinn wrote:
[...]
> Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the
> meainstram channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio
The 405 line shutdown was planned, it wasn't due to maintenance. To judge how
many people were still watching, they put an X graphic overlay in the corner of
the screen. They got people complaining that X rated material was being show
before the watershed. So they changed the overlay to the
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Tony Quinn wrote:
[...]
> Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the meainstram
> channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio 2 per week), some local radio
> stations have essential listening.
You don't say *which* "minority genre", but
From: Tony Quinn
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 15:40
Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the meainstram
channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio 2 per week), some local radio
stations have essential listening.
The issue was whether it was necessary for the BBC to
On 01-Oct-16 1:40 PM, David Cantrell wrote:
Did you not know that iPlayer also lets you listen/watch live? It's
not just for catch up.
Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to *any*
local radio, but given that some people do, I expect that there exist
people who
On 2016-10-01, 10:58, Peter Corlett wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to ensure
what you buy works as it should. They may 'subcontract' that to the makers,
who in turn may commission someone else to
On 2016-09-29, 17:19, RS wrote:
From: David Cantrell
As far as I am aware there are no regional or local television or
radio stations which serve a single post code.
You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point.
Each station serves a long list of postcodes, and you
In article <20161001095849.ga27...@mooli.org.uk>, Peter Corlett
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
> > RS wrote:
> [...]
[snip]
> > It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to
> > ensure what you
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
> RS wrote:
[...]
>> At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more than
>> 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it.
> I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this
On 29 Sep 2016 at 8:11, CJB CJB wrote:
> I predict a huge rise in torrenting and seedboxes next year ...
I have access to a 1Gbs VPS which can be used for torrenting were a torrent
client installed. According to others, it could be used to download movies
and all manner
On Thu Sep 29 08:11:31 BST 2016, CJB wrote:
Most youngsters will not have a license per se
relying on their respective parents' household licenses.
And how does this affect their access from various locations
and post codes as they visit friends, relatives, work locations, etc.?
If a license
From: David Cantrell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 15:57
As far as I am aware there are no regional or local television or radio
stations
which serve a single post code.
You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point.
Each station serves a long list of
From: Jim web
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 15:05
FWIW I always have recommended that people buy a TV with an HDMI input
and then feed that from a computer. This frees you from relying on the
firmware, etc, installed by the TV makers. The media players I've seen on
TVs are lousy
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:22:57PM +0100, RS wrote:
> >From: David Cantrell
> >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 14:07
> >>Asking for location makes no sense to me.
> >Ah, right, so just because it isn't helpful for your particular unusual
> >case they shouldn't do it.
> It makes no sense for the
In article <20160929130822.gb21...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David
Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> > "I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when
> > I decide."
> And then there are normal people
From: David Cantrell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 14:07
Asking for location makes no sense to me.
Ah, right, so just because it isn't helpful for your particular unusual
case they shouldn't do it.
It makes no sense for the purposes set out on the registration page because
the
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> "I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when I
> decide."
And then there are normal people who aren't geeks. They're who smart
TVs exist for.
--
David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 04:36:19PM -0500, artisticforge . wrote:
> I listen to BBC Radio off the internet.
> As to which stations it depends on the day of the week and the time of day.
> Sunday is Radio Cumbria, Radio Kent, Radio Lincolnshire, Radio Stoke and
> Radio Wales.
>
> Asking for
I assume that this also includes access to BBC 3 - mainly watched by
the youth (or pretend to be youth) generation whom I understand mainly
use smart phones?
So how will a login tied to a BBC license code tied to a fixed post
code location actually work?
Most youngsters will not have a license
On Wed Sep 28 14:44:19 BST 2016, RS wrote:
The reasons given for collecting the information seem pretty flimsy.
(snip)
Do I want my use recorded against
my email address and postcode?
... That is exactly the whole point there, Richard!
Tracking/monitoring an individual logged-in iPlayer user
On 28 Sep 2016 at 15:05, Jim web Jim web wrote:
> In article <427BC14D94A04F7A88642EAF344B9F15@RJCDESK>, RS
> wrote:
> > My television does not even call itself a Smart TV, but it does support
> > DLNA.
>
> FWIW I always have recommended that people
hello
I listen to BBC Radio off the internet.
As to which stations it depends on the day of the week and the time of day.
Sunday is Radio Cumbria, Radio Kent, Radio Lincolnshire, Radio Stoke and
Radio Wales.
Asking for location makes no sense to me. it is all to create the
illusion that the BBC
In article <427BC14D94A04F7A88642EAF344B9F15@RJCDESK>, RS
wrote:
> My television does not even call itself a Smart TV, but it does support
> DLNA.
FWIW I always have recommended that people buy a TV with an HDMI input
and then feed that from a computer. This frees you from
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 01:47
Again, I fear this will also apply to Int'l users (in the millions...)
wishing to access iPlayerRadio offered to them (in low bitrates); in their
recently revised pages: https://www.bbc.com/register/
From: Jim web
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:02
At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more
than 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it.
I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this misrepresentation here. It
has been dealt with in
Hello Vangelis
But even your "noise" is so well articulated and thought out. :-)
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Vangelis forthnet
wrote:
> On Tue Sep 27 12:18:53 BST 2016, Roger Bell_West wrote:
>>
>> so far use of iPlayer for _radio_ programmes does not require
On Tue Sep 27 12:18:53 BST 2016, Roger Bell_West wrote:
so far use of iPlayer for _radio_ programmes
does not require a licence
Though not clear in the BBC News article
that started this thread, the Daily Mail one
(linked to by CJB) states:
From early next year, anyone accessing TV and
On 27/09/16 10:09, RS wrote:
From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25
Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV
owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more.
I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for those,
possibly based on the
hello
There are numerous BBC offerings all over the internet
below is just a small sampling.
iTunes -> Radio -> Alternative Rock -> BBC Radio 6
iTunes -> Radio -> Comedy -> BBC Radio 4
iTunes -> Radio -> Comedy -> BBC Radio 4 extra
iTunes -> Radio -> Classical -> BBC Radio 3
iTunes -> Radio ->
For what its worth ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808926/BBC-iPlayer-viewers-soon-need-password-register-details.html
CJB
On 27/09/2016, Jim web wrote:
> In article <7AAC9874F8324F5AAC4DEA3E8C7A6DAB@RJCDESK>, RS
> wrote:
>
>> At
In article <7AAC9874F8324F5AAC4DEA3E8C7A6DAB@RJCDESK>, RS
wrote:
> At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more
> than 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it.
I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this misrepresentation
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:15:46PM +0100, Graham wrote:
>My guess is that they will ask for name, address and email, possibly
>under penalty of perjury and with email validation during registration.
>No one is going to know, or be willing to look for, their licence
>number! They will presumably
On 27/09/16 11:13, CJB wrote:
> This appears to be a requirement for each individual viewer. Yet
> aren't TV Licenses issued for households or families? Certainly a
> password coupled with a License fee registration number would
> required. Which raises the scenario of one License fee no. coupled
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 11:13 +0100, CJB wrote:
> Share and share alike I guess. Kind a makes a mockery of the need for
> security.
That's hardly new. Similar observations could be made of fairly much
all the snake oil DRM schemes.
Ultimately, all these schemes have the same goal — to make the
This appears to be a requirement for each individual viewer. Yet
aren't TV Licenses issued for households or families? Certainly a
password coupled with a License fee registration number would
required. Which raises the scenario of one License fee no. coupled to
multiple passwords - one for each
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 10:09 +0100, RS wrote:
> >From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25
>
> >> Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV
> >> owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more.
>
> >I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for
From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25
Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV
owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more.
I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for those, possibly
based on the API.
At present the BBC's
On 27/09/2016 04:47, Jonathan Larmour wrote:
Someone would post this, so it may as well be me:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229
[snip]
So, anyone in the know about what will be involved? A simple webpage
login which get_iplayer may be able to just deal with? That's all
Someone would post this, so it may as well be me:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229
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