Re: Iplayer login

2018-11-14 Thread James Scholes
Chris Dunne wrote: Does it still use the same fundamental format as iPlayer (and just a marketing rebrand) Pretty much, yes. Regards, James Scholes https://twitter.com/JamesScholes ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: Iplayer login

2018-11-13 Thread Chris Dunne
(hopefully in plain format now). > I was wondering what format BBC Sounds uses when I first heard about it.(it > seems to be pushed a lot on both 6 Music and Radio 2). > > Does it still use the same fundamental format as iPlayer (and just a > marketing rebrand) or have they changed it? > > Chris

Re: Iplayer login

2018-11-13 Thread James Scholes
A login has been required for months to watch TV programs, and get_iplayer still works fine. So I doubt it will impact anything in the short term. Whether it will *ever* have an impact is an impossible question to answer, even for people who work at the BBC. But in this case it's probable

Iplayer login

2018-11-13 Thread Steve
Hi guys, I'm a bit concerned as I'm getting a request to log in to the bbc iPlayer radio pages to play audio, will this ever impact on get-iplayer and require a login to download? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2017-01-08 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Sat Jan 7 11:07:01 GMT 2017, RS wrote: My apologies for the long delay in replying to this. No need to apologise :-) It seems the ICO had already decided there were clear privacy issues, and had people working on it. It had written to the BBC at the end of August and a response was due

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2017-01-07 Thread RS
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 00:13 On Thu Sep 29 17:19:37 BST 2016, RS wrote: My concern is privacy. Did you read Vangelis's comment about his research into what the information will be used for? It is very different from what it says on the registration page. The

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-03 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 03/10/16 08:54, CJB wrote: You'd like the Radio Caroline archive site then > > http://www.azanorak.com/ > > http://www.azanorak.com/pub > > http://www.azanorak.com//pub/stations etc, etc. > > Thousands of shows from the 1960s etc. to download for free. > > Password 'freeradio' > >

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-03 Thread CJB
You'd like the Radio Caroline archive site then http://www.azanorak.com/ http://www.azanorak.com/pub http://www.azanorak.com//pub/stations etc, etc. Thousands of shows from the 1960s etc. to download for free. Password 'freeradio' Chris B. On 03/10/2016, Alan Milewczyk

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-02 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 01/10/16 13:40, David Cantrell wrote: Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to *any* local radio, but given that some people do, I expect that there exist people who want to listen to their local radio station online. We're not all the same, you know. I'm into

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Jim web
In article <57efb2d5.6000...@cantrell.org.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > Maintaining and running a a large number of versions of a piece of > software and everything that surrounds it for long periods of time while > also upgrading it to provide new features for new users is

RE: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread d.lake
get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017 On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Tony Quinn wrote: [...] > Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the > meainstram channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Owen Smith
The 405 line shutdown was planned, it wasn't due to maintenance. To judge how many people were still watching, they put an X graphic overlay in the corner of the screen. They got people complaining that X rated material was being show before the watershed. So they changed the overlay to the

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Peter Corlett
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Tony Quinn wrote: [...] > Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the meainstram > channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio 2 per week), some local radio > stations have essential listening. You don't say *which* "minority genre", but

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread RS
From: Tony Quinn Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 15:40 Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the meainstram channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio 2 per week), some local radio stations have essential listening. The issue was whether it was necessary for the BBC to

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Tony Quinn
On 01-Oct-16 1:40 PM, David Cantrell wrote: Did you not know that iPlayer also lets you listen/watch live? It's not just for catch up. Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to *any* local radio, but given that some people do, I expect that there exist people who

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On 2016-10-01, 10:58, Peter Corlett wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote: It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to ensure what you buy works as it should. They may 'subcontract' that to the makers, who in turn may commission someone else to

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On 2016-09-29, 17:19, RS wrote: From: David Cantrell As far as I am aware there are no regional or local television or radio stations which serve a single post code. You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point. Each station serves a long list of postcodes, and you

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Jim web
In article <20161001095849.ga27...@mooli.org.uk>, Peter Corlett wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > > RS wrote: > [...] [snip] > > It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to > > ensure what you

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-10-01 Thread Peter Corlett
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > RS wrote: [...] >> At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more than >> 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it. > I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 29 Sep 2016 at 8:11, CJB CJB wrote: > I predict a huge rise in torrenting and seedboxes next year ... I have access to a 1Gbs VPS which can be used for torrenting were a torrent client installed. According to others, it could be used to download movies and all manner

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Thu Sep 29 08:11:31 BST 2016, CJB wrote: Most youngsters will not have a license per se relying on their respective parents' household licenses. And how does this affect their access from various locations and post codes as they visit friends, relatives, work locations, etc.? If a license

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread RS
From: David Cantrell Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 15:57 As far as I am aware there are no regional or local television or radio stations which serve a single post code. You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point. Each station serves a long list of

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread RS
From: Jim web Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 15:05 FWIW I always have recommended that people buy a TV with an HDMI input and then feed that from a computer. This frees you from relying on the firmware, etc, installed by the TV makers. The media players I've seen on TVs are lousy

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread David Cantrell
od guess at location. As far as This isn't an iPlayer login though, it's used in lots of other bits of the BBC's online stuff. It makes sense for the iPlayer people to re-use what already exists. And I can't see where it makes a guess at location at all. All I can get out of it is a list of st

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread Jim web
In article <20160929130822.gb21...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote: > > "I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when > > I decide." > And then there are normal people

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread RS
From: David Cantrell Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 14:07 Asking for location makes no sense to me. Ah, right, so just because it isn't helpful for your particular unusual case they shouldn't do it. It makes no sense for the purposes set out on the registration page because the

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote: > "I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when I > decide." And then there are normal people who aren't geeks. They're who smart TVs exist for. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 04:36:19PM -0500, artisticforge . wrote: > I listen to BBC Radio off the internet. > As to which stations it depends on the day of the week and the time of day. > Sunday is Radio Cumbria, Radio Kent, Radio Lincolnshire, Radio Stoke and > Radio Wales. > > Asking for

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-29 Thread CJB
I assume that this also includes access to BBC 3 - mainly watched by the youth (or pretend to be youth) generation whom I understand mainly use smart phones? So how will a login tied to a BBC license code tied to a fixed post code location actually work? Most youngsters will not have a license

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Wed Sep 28 14:44:19 BST 2016, RS wrote: The reasons given for collecting the information seem pretty flimsy. (snip) Do I want my use recorded against my email address and postcode? ... That is exactly the whole point there, Richard! Tracking/monitoring an individual logged-in iPlayer user

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 28 Sep 2016 at 15:05, Jim web Jim web wrote: > In article <427BC14D94A04F7A88642EAF344B9F15@RJCDESK>, RS > wrote: > > My television does not even call itself a Smart TV, but it does support > > DLNA. > > FWIW I always have recommended that people

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread artisticforge .
hello I listen to BBC Radio off the internet. As to which stations it depends on the day of the week and the time of day. Sunday is Radio Cumbria, Radio Kent, Radio Lincolnshire, Radio Stoke and Radio Wales. Asking for location makes no sense to me. it is all to create the illusion that the BBC

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread Jim web
In article <427BC14D94A04F7A88642EAF344B9F15@RJCDESK>, RS wrote: > My television does not even call itself a Smart TV, but it does support > DLNA. FWIW I always have recommended that people buy a TV with an HDMI input and then feed that from a computer. This frees you from

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread RS
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 01:47 Again, I fear this will also apply to Int'l users (in the millions...) wishing to access iPlayerRadio offered to them (in low bitrates); in their recently revised pages: https://www.bbc.com/register/

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-28 Thread RS
From: Jim web Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:02 At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more than 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it. I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this misrepresentation here. It has been dealt with in

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread artisticforge .
Hello Vangelis But even your "noise" is so well articulated and thought out. :-) On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Vangelis forthnet wrote: > On Tue Sep 27 12:18:53 BST 2016, Roger Bell_West wrote: >> >> so far use of iPlayer for _radio_ programmes does not require

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Tue Sep 27 12:18:53 BST 2016, Roger Bell_West wrote: so far use of iPlayer for _radio_ programmes does not require a licence Though not clear in the BBC News article that started this thread, the Daily Mail one (linked to by CJB) states: From early next year, anyone accessing TV and

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 27/09/16 10:09, RS wrote: From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25 Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more. I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for those, possibly based on the

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread artisticforge .
hello There are numerous BBC offerings all over the internet below is just a small sampling. iTunes -> Radio -> Alternative Rock -> BBC Radio 6 iTunes -> Radio -> Comedy -> BBC Radio 4 iTunes -> Radio -> Comedy -> BBC Radio 4 extra iTunes -> Radio -> Classical -> BBC Radio 3 iTunes -> Radio ->

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread CJB
For what its worth ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808926/BBC-iPlayer-viewers-soon-need-password-register-details.html CJB On 27/09/2016, Jim web wrote: > In article <7AAC9874F8324F5AAC4DEA3E8C7A6DAB@RJCDESK>, RS > wrote: > >> At

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Jim web
In article <7AAC9874F8324F5AAC4DEA3E8C7A6DAB@RJCDESK>, RS wrote: > At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more > than 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it. I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this misrepresentation

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:15:46PM +0100, Graham wrote: >My guess is that they will ask for name, address and email, possibly >under penalty of perjury and with email validation during registration. >No one is going to know, or be willing to look for, their licence >number! They will presumably

Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Graham
On 27/09/16 11:13, CJB wrote: > This appears to be a requirement for each individual viewer. Yet > aren't TV Licenses issued for households or families? Certainly a > password coupled with a License fee registration number would > required. Which raises the scenario of one License fee no. coupled

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 11:13 +0100, CJB wrote: > Share and share alike I guess. Kind a makes a mockery of the need for > security. That's hardly new. Similar observations could be made of fairly much all the snake oil DRM schemes. Ultimately, all these schemes have the same goal — to make the

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread CJB
This appears to be a requirement for each individual viewer. Yet aren't TV Licenses issued for households or families? Certainly a password coupled with a License fee registration number would required. Which raises the scenario of one License fee no. coupled to multiple passwords - one for each

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 10:09 +0100, RS wrote: > >From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25 > > >> Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV > >> owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more. > > >I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread RS
From: Mark Goodge Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:25 Of course this change may result in a lot of unhappy "Smart" TV owners whose iPlayer apps don't get updated any more. I would imagine that the BBC has a separate system for those, possibly based on the API. At present the BBC's

Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Mark Goodge
On 27/09/2016 04:47, Jonathan Larmour wrote: Someone would post this, so it may as well be me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229 [snip] So, anyone in the know about what will be involved? A simple webpage login which get_iplayer may be able to just deal with? That's all

BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-26 Thread Jonathan Larmour
Someone would post this, so it may as well be me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229 -=-=-=-=-=-=- All users of the BBC's iPlayer service will have to log in with a personal account from early 2017. Users of BBC services can already create an online account - known as a BBC