Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Filipe Soares Dilly
Hi; Great Mockup. I really like the idea. 2007/10/27, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 15:53 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: In general I like this change. But we absolutely need to discuss how we want to handle multiple images with this approach. Things are

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Felipe: Tabs don't work for image manipulation because is frequent to compare between two+ images or work with two views (one zoomed and the other at 100%) . If we use tabs we have only one image open at a time and that's mostly a problem for pros. Another common procedure is to have two images

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Akkana Peck
Guillermo Espertino writes: Tabs don't work for image manipulation because is frequent to compare between two+ images or work with two views (one zoomed and the other at 100%) . If we use tabs we have only one image open at a time and that's mostly a problem for pros. Clearly it wouldn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Loo wrote: I'm not a developer, but I am a pro, and I would love to see some kind of tab implimentation--as long as the individual images can be undocked or detabbed allowing more than one image open at a time. In fact, that's the most profound idea I'd read about for the UI. Yes, sure.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Henk Boom
On 28/10/2007, Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) As I proposed in my mockup, just make the toolbox and docker dependant of the active image. - When there is no image open: use the splash (one button in the taskbar named GIMP) - When there is one image open: panels

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Henk Boom
(I apologize if this is duplicate, I used the wrong from address in my previous email so it doesn't seem to be getting accepted by the list) On 28/10/2007, Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) As I proposed in my mockup, just make the toolbox and docker dependant of the active image.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Henk: Yes, I knew that (both the utility setting and the image dialog). What I meant was to polish those two features and make them work correctly in every platform (afaik the utility setting seems to have some problems in windows, for instance) so can make them available as the default

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:25:38 -0300 From: Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo wrote: I'm not a developer, but I am a pro, and I would love to see some kind of tab implimentation--as long as the individual images can be undocked or detabbed allowing more than one image

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:18:12 -0700 From: Akkana Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to see tabs as an option in image windows. As with Firefox, you'd be able to choose Open in new window versus Open in new tab in the same window. And of course you'd always have the New view

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 15:06 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: Yes, I knew that (both the utility setting and the image dialog). What I meant was to polish those two features and make them work correctly in every platform (afaik the utility setting seems to have some problems in

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 14:25 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: Creating a tabbed interface would require to completely transform the current one I don't see how a tabbed image window would be difficult to implement. It would even fit nicely with your proposal. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Micahel Grosberg
- Original Message From: Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Filipe Soares Dilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:51:58 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread jernej
On Sunday, October 28, 2007, 17:51:58, Guillermo Espertino wrote: Tabs don't work for image manipulation because is frequent to compare between two+ images or work with two views (one zoomed and the other at 100%) . If we use tabs we have only one image open at a time and that's mostly a

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Micahel Grosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Filipe Soares Dilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Guillermo Espertino
I understand. It's clear that everyone's preference may vary on this subject: -Photoshop users will ask for floating windows nested in a container window. -Other users will ask for tabbed windows in a single window. -Gimp orthodox users will ask for individual windows Obviously it's impossible

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:59:03 -0300 From: Guillermo Espertino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading all the comments (including Sven's saying that tabbed windows isn't too difficult to implement) I can see that maybe a switchable interface between tabbed and floating would be the most

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread gg
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:12:33 +0100, Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that making tabbed and floating live together is a very hard problem -- Firefox does that just fine (and it sounds like Opera does it even better). Not only do OPera do it better they invented tabbed

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 17:06 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: Inkscape uses utility windows that aren't confined to the main window limits. Utility windows are never confined to any window. It's just a window manager hint. And it is even clearly defined how the window manager should

[Gimp-developer] fullscreen lag

2007-10-28 Thread patrick
hi, there's a bug on ubuntu gutsy with gimp 2.4.0-rc3: in fullscreen mode (F11) there is a lag when doing an action (around 1 sec.). by action i mean, using the paintbrush, eraser, airbrush, select tools etc... i tried with a small canvas 320x240, same lag as 1280x1024. there is no problem if

Re: [Gimp-developer] fullscreen lag

2007-10-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
patrick wrote: hi, there's a bug on ubuntu gutsy with gimp 2.4.0-rc3: in fullscreen mode (F11) there is a lag when doing an action (around 1 sec.). by action i mean, using the paintbrush, eraser, airbrush, select tools etc... i tried with a small canvas 320x240, same lag as 1280x1024.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread jernej
On Sunday, October 28, 2007, 22:30:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now whether ffx did not copy that detail because they use gtk+ and the widget does not have that capability remains to be checked. (Linux Opera is qt). It's probably because Opera is still MDI under the hood - it just hides this

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Sven Neumann escribió: Nevertheless, if we can make sure that there's always a leader window, then using the utility hint is going to work much better than it does currently. Oh, I understand. I can see why Inkscape hasn't the same problem. But in their case they have a complete instance of

Re: [Gimp-developer] fullscreen lag

2007-10-28 Thread patrick
hi martin, thanks for reporting. the problem was compiz - gimp don't like it. be it, normal / extra or custom (in appearance preferences). putting it to none fixed the problem. kind of sad, i was enjoying some features of compiz. but, i can live with this ;) pat patrick wrote: hi,

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/29/07, Guillermo Espertino wrote: I looked at Opera, as it has been suggested here. It has very good options for managing tabs (manage different views and make tiles or cascades for multiple views, detach windows from the tabbed environment, etc.) I have to agree that it seems pretty

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Christopher Curtis
On 10/28/07, Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Micahel Grosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] As an alternative, I'd like to suggest a UI setup I filched from Erdas Imagine (a GIS app). It sort-of emulates the Mac OS idea of starting

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:29:49 -0400 From: Christopher Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/28/07, Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Micahel Grosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] As an alternative, I'd like to suggest a UI

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On 10/29/07, Alexandre Prokoudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/29/07, Guillermo Espertino wrote: I looked at Opera, as it has been suggested here. It has very good options for managing tabs (manage different views and make tiles or cascades for multiple views, detach windows from the

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:34:54 +1030 From: David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/29/07, Alexandre Prokoudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/29/07, Guillermo Espertino wrote: I looked at Opera, as it has been suggested here. It has very good options for managing tabs

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-28 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2007-10-28 at 2029.49 -0400): On 10/28/07, Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Micahel Grosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] As an alternative, I'd like to suggest a UI setup I filched from Erdas Imagine (a