Hi, my name is Sam and I have been involved in several projects ranging
from art classes in public schools to local art communities around Austin.
I am a Linux person and use Gimp for everything. I keep running across the
same problem though. The name Gimp is offensive to people and suggests
infe
Hi Sam.
Sam Bagot (dsm...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Is there any thought on salvaging the marketing effort and renaming this
> product so that it can be taken seriously by people and institutions?
> Also, a big barrier to entry adopting Linux for people is a solid
> graphic manipulator. The bad brandin
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Sam Bagot wrote:
> The name Gimp [...] suggests inferiority to Photoshop.
Yes, some people tend to overthink :)
> In my experience, institutions would much rather
> pay for a professional product than teach a class to children involving
> gimps.
In my experience,
On 04/11/2015 06:54 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
Hi Sam.
Sam Bagot (dsm...@gmail.com) wrote:
Is there any thought on salvaging the marketing effort and renaming this
product so that it can be taken seriously by people and institutions?
Also, a big barrier to entry adopting Linux for people is a solid
El mié, 08-04-2015 a las 12:58 -0500, Sam Bagot escribió:
> Hi, my name is Sam and I have been involved in several projects ranging
> from art classes in public schools to local art communities around Austin.
> I am a Linux person and use Gimp for everything. I keep running across the
> same probl
Gez (lis...@ohweb.com.ar) wrote:
> [...] optional patch
> that provides and easy way to remove the name GIMP from the UI,
> replacing it for a different one?
>
> Now, seriously. What do devs think about this idea? If somebody provided
> a good patch for building GIMP easily with a different name a
On 15 April 2015 at 05:40, Simon Budig wrote:
> Gez (lis...@ohweb.com.ar) wrote:
>> [...] optional patch
>> that provides and easy way to remove the name GIMP from the UI,
>> replacing it for a different one?
>>
>> Now, seriously. What do devs think about this idea? If somebody provided
>> a good
On 04/15/2015 08:19 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
On 15 April 2015 at 05:40, Simon Budig wrote:
No. It would only play into the hands we already have with fake
packagers who sell Gimp without mentioning the Gimp brand name and
without mentioning that Gimp is available for free as well.
Indee
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 4:41 AM Simon Budig wrote:
>
> Gez (lis...@ohweb.com.ar) wrote:
> >
>
> If somebody provided
> > a good patch for building GIMP easily with a different name as an
> > option, would you accept that patch?
>
> No. It would only play into the hands we already have with fake
El mié, 15-04-2015 a las 10:43 -0400, Elle Stone escribió:
> On 04/15/2015 08:19 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> > On 15 April 2015 at 05:40, Simon Budig wrote:
>
> >> No. It would only play into the hands we already have with fake
> >> packagers who sell Gimp without mentioning the Gimp brand name
On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 12:58 -0500, Sam Bagot wrote:
> A product called Gimp can't be used [in schools]
Although GIMP can be used in at least some schools, I agree with your
premise.
These conversations always seem to run the same course:
A: the name GIMP is offensive to me, or to people with
How do we know that the word "Gnu" is not offensive in some schools in
some culture in some language? Also, the word "manipulation" has
negative connotations for some people in some cultures ..
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Liam R. E. Quin wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 12:58 -0500, Sam Bagot
On 04/18/2015 11:55 PM, Liam R. E. Quin wrote:
On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 12:58 -0500, Sam Bagot wrote:
A product called Gimp can't be used [in schools]
Although GIMP can be used in at least some schools, I agree with your
premise.
These conversations always seem to run the same course:
A: the
On 26/04/15 17:06, Elle Stone wrote:
How about a small committee to select 3-5 possible names for review?
Liam Quin could be the Chair and Sam Bagot could represent potential
GIMP users who are unwilling to deal with the unwanted connotations of
the name "GIMP".
That committee couldn't be s
On 04/26/2015 05:06 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
> On 04/18/2015 11:55 PM, Liam R. E. Quin wrote:
>> But then you get into endless discussions about the name.
>
> How about a small committee to select 3-5 possible names for review?
> Liam Quin could be the Chair and Sam Bagot could represent potential
Renames have worked in the past as I see it and for the most part, as I'm
sure you've heard people consider before, a product named gimp can't
succeed against a product named professionally like PhotoShop. So you
would only be loosing bad publicity anyway as the product is muted and
can't succeed.
The name is a blocker in some US schools with teachers or student
parents that over-sensitive (and somewhat dirty-minded, since "gimp" has
other meanings in English).
By the way, one of the most popular Web server software is called
Apache. In French, it is also slang for a street robber and a
28 апр. 2015 г. 8:22 пользователь "Sam Bagot" написал:
>
> Renames have worked in the past as I see it and for the most part, as I'm
> sure you've heard people consider before, a product named gimp can't
> succeed against a product named professionally like PhotoShop.
We do not make GIMP to compet
We should call it GNUIMP (pronounced New-Imp).
"GIMP" is just crushing recursive acronyms together ;)
Seriously though, the fact that it's not commercial software is likely to
be more of an issue than the name.
"Google" is about the worst name I can think of for anything adults would
use, yet it's
Grr, when did GMail change the default from reply-to-list to reply-to-author?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
wrote:
> 28 апр. 2015 г. 8:22 пользователь "Sam Bagot" написал:
>>
>> Renames have worked in the past as I see it and for the most part, as I'm
>> sure you've heard
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Summers wrote:
> I wouldn't have wanted my name associated with something called "GIMP"
> if I had known what the word meant when I started contributing to it.
gimp
noun
1. twisted silk, worsted, or cotton with cord or wire running through
it, used chiefly
On 04/29/2015 02:47 PM, Nathan Summers wrote:
>We do not make GIMP to compete against Photoshop.
>
>GIMP_is_ used at schools. Also, USA is not the only country in the world.
>Not even the largest one out there.
>
So our target audience is non-English speaking photographic
professionals that don
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Alan Pater wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Summers wrote:
>> I wouldn't have wanted my name associated with something called "GIMP"
>> if I had known what the word meant when I started contributing to it.
>
> gimp
> noun
> 1. twisted silk, worsted
Apologies for the top post. My phone won't permit anything else. With regard to
the Firefox comparison, if the name was the only difference you'd have a valid
argument. But unless you can line up the potential contributors who were put
off by the name you're going to have to take into account th
El mié, 29-04-2015 a las 14:47 -0400, Nathan Summers escribió:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
> wrote:
>
> > Furthermore, I suggest you exercise nastyness elsewhere. This is a mailing
> > list for discussing development of GIMP.
>
> There's nothing nasty about what he sa
I'm an "American" (US citizen even), and the name GIMP is just fine. For
the record, I have no issues wearing a GIMP teeshirt.
Be thankful that the name was changed in 1995 from "The GIMP" to just
"GIMP", following the realisation that the movie "Pulp Fiction" would
forever taint the name in the mi
Come to think of it, I'd like to see more GIMP teeshirts. Is there
somewhere where we can submit designs for them, where profits go to the
project?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, C R wrote:
> I'm an "American" (US citizen even), and the name GIMP is just fine. For
> the record, I have no issu
To put it into perspective, do a Google Image search for "gimp", and see
the ratio of GIMP project images to fetishy Pulp Fiction swag. The internet
has voted on this one already, and it's an overwhelming majority in favour
of GIMP being a FOSS image manipulation program.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1
On 04/30/2015 12:07 AM, C R wrote:
> Come to think of it, I'd like to see more GIMP teeshirts. Is there
> somewhere where we can submit designs for them, where profits go to the
> project?
We have a proposal from someone who wants to create shirts - and other
stuff.
What we've been slow about
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 23:13 +0100, C R wrote:
> To put it into perspective, do a Google Image search for "gimp", and
see the ratio of GIMP project images to fetishy Pulp Fiction swag.
The more common meaning of the word in English-speaking countries is a
derogatory term for someone injured or
I'd give just about anything to be able to afford the trip to Toronto at
the moment. I may be able to do so next year. It's a long way for me, since
I'm London-based. I'd be happy to help with GIMP brand identity if that is
helpful. I do it all the time for work.
Best,
-C
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at
It's your lucky day: next LGM is in London.
Alex
30 апр. 2015 г. 16:07 пользователь "C R" написал:
> I'd give just about anything to be able to afford the trip to Toronto at
> the moment. I may be able to do so next year. It's a long way for me, since
> I'm London-based. I'd be happy to help wi
Yes, I've heard that as well. I can see your point about wearing a GIMP
shirt in that environment, but to date, I've never heard of any disabled
people taking offence to the acronym GIMP. Also, merely appending 2.8 and
showing the Wilbur logo on the shirt would probably be enough to
disambiguate.
I will definitely be there! It will be awesome to meet anyone who can come.
I'm the organiser for the London Linux Meetup here, so if anyone wants to
come out for drinks or something after the conference, I can help with that
as well. :)
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