Re: [GO] sequels/series

2004-11-13 Thread Ellen Jordan
Pam writes: I wondered when book sequels & series first became common? . . .Series feature largely in GO fiction - was there anything much before Alcott / Montgomery / Oxenham series & Brazil's pairs? The earliest I can think of at the moment are The Fairy Bower and The Lost Brooch by Harriett M

Re: [GO] Buffy

2004-11-13 Thread Elspeth O'Mara
No, Spike is great. Angel just mopes around, full of angst. And his eyes are too close together. Elspeth - Original Message - From: "Sandra Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "girlsown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [GO] Buffy > Although I am a huge

Re: [GO] OT: Gaelic

2004-11-13 Thread Marcia McGinley
What you need to do Katharine is wait until you get those nasty white floaty bits in your cup of tea and then you casually remark, "Tor arn bahn-ya gair." Marcia -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives se

[GO] Wintle's Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread pat bland
Hi Marcia & others, I wonder what you found distressing in AF's Autumn Term - can you remember? I have just read it again and wonder if it was the unfairness re the expulsion from Guides. Regards, Patricia Marcia Wrote: I haven't read Wintle's Wonders since I first read it as a child. I love Noel

RE: [GO] NS Sirens Wailed

2004-11-13 Thread Susan Dunnachie
I haven't read many NS for many years except for the Vicarage family and it's sequels but I did read most as a child and I can remember being impressed and enjoying Sirens and Thursday's Child. They're the ones I've bought as an adult but I haven't had time for a reread to give you an opinion as t

Re: [GO] sequels/series

2004-11-13 Thread Nicky Smith
- Original Message - From: "kirkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: [GO] sequels/series > I've just finished watching UK terrestrial TV's premiere of 'Bridget Jones' > Diary' and noted the links between it and 'Pride & Preju

[GO] sequels/series

2004-11-13 Thread kirkhead
I've just finished watching UK terrestrial TV's premiere of 'Bridget Jones' Diary' and noted the links between it and 'Pride & Prejudice' (didn't spot the plot links on my first viewing at the cinema - doh!!). Anyway, given BJD has a sequel ('Edge of Reason'), although P & P doesn't, I wondered w

Re: [GO] OT: Gaelic

2004-11-13 Thread Valerie Wood
If it's Scots Gaelic try http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/beurla/ - that's the Gaelic college of the University of Highlands and Islands: online dictionary. And you can use the search SMO box to search for the pronounciation guides. (I find it difficult, personally, my brain and tongue are not made for

[GO] Re: GO: The appropriateness of controversial subjects

2004-11-13 Thread Liz Filleul
I don't know about the rest of the list, but I think the "who said what" postings about last week's flare-up are tedious to say the least. We all remember who said what, and anyone who doesn't and is remotely interested can go to the archives. We don't need posts repeated virtually in their ent

[GO] RE: Buffy

2004-11-13 Thread Sandra Wright
Kait said "I loved Buffy and Angel together, but since they can't be, I really want the Buffy/Spike thing to work. Spike is certainly a great character with lots of charisma, I can understand why they brought him back" I loved Buffy and Angel together too, and that episode in Angel "I will rememb

[GO] RE: Sara/h

2004-11-13 Thread Sandra Wright
Katie said "I usually work on Sarah=s-air-a and Sara=sahra, as that fits _most_ of the people I come across, but I now know a Sara who pronounces her name S-air-a, and I'm sure I knew another in the 1970's at junior school. So I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, though in the UK it does seem

[GO] Girlsown Digest, Vol 6, Issue 75 - yes all of it - truly

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
Well, after hearing from our honestly beloved leaders, but even more after reading this digest, I'm no longer fearful that GO will become wishy-washy or that its members will avoid controversy. I have Now Calmed Down. NB: Sue, what is true tolerance as opposed to laxness? I mean, how can you t

Re: [GO] OT: Gaelic

2004-11-13 Thread KGilch4198
Scots or Irish, Katharine? I think there is something - at least links to pages - off the BBC pages, for Scots Gaelic at least. I can't remember how I stumbled across this - I think it came off a page which had lots aboutelarning different languages, but I'm not sure the URL had anything that

[GO] OT: Gaelic

2004-11-13 Thread kirkhead
>Being the incredibly shallow person that I am, I'd like to learn a bit about >Gaelic* to impress someone. Ahem. Are there any websites out there that >would give me the basics of pronunciation and that sort of thing, or even an >online dictionary? >Thanks, >Katharine >*(nearly wrote 'a bit *of

[GO] OT: Gaelic

2004-11-13 Thread Katharine Considine
Being the incredibly shallow person that I am, I'd like to learn a bit about Gaelic* to impress someone. Ahem. Are there any websites out there that would give me the basics of pronunciation and that sort of thing, or even an online dictionary? Thanks, Katharine *(nearly wrote 'a bit *of* Gaeli

Re: [GO]Sara/h, was Books that make me cry

2004-11-13 Thread KGilch4198
I usually work on Sarah=s-air-a and Sara=sahra, as that fits _most_ of the people I come across, but I now know a Sara who pronounces her name S-air-a, and I'm sure I knew another in the 1970's at junior school. So I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, though in the UK it does seem to be a t

Re: [GO] off-topic, but getting back on-topic

2004-11-13 Thread Ann Dowker
I think that it's supposed to refer to people's personal behaviour, (e.g. with regard to sexual behaviour or drugs) rather than public policies such as sending troops to Iraq. I also agree that people in general don't want to do others to do the things that they disapprove of; and the issue is m

Re: [GO] Teas and Translation pendant

2004-11-13 Thread ReggieRhino
In a message dated 13/11/2004 16:53:10 GMT Standard Time, Con writes (well, quotes in her signature line): >Liberals: people who don't approve of something: so they don't do it. Conservatives: people who don't approve of something: so they don't want anyone to do it.< Mmm. A bit provocativ

[GO] Tuck

2004-11-13 Thread Avital
Oh Tuck Boxes make me cry too, but only because I can't understand how they turn Darrel & Co into svelte super swimmers and me into a lard-ass. Avital. >>Never heard of Tuck Everlasting Avity, just Tuck Box, jammed with goodies at Malory Towers or St Clares! Pammy --- Outgoing mail is certified V

Re: [GO] Wintle's Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread ReggieRhino
In a message dated 13/11/2004 15:32:47 GMT Standard Time, Nicky writes: >Perhaps I'm just very dull (and I wouldn't deny accusations of humdrummity) but even as a child I preferred Petrova and Myra Forum and Ginny Bell (and Paul whose singing voice was like a nutmeg grater) and I would have

Re: [GO] sobbing

2004-11-13 Thread Pamela Gallan
Never heard of Tuck Everlasting Avity, just Tuck Box, jammed with goodies at Malory Towers or St Clares! Pammy Did anyone mention Tuck Everlasting? I still get a bit sniffly just thinking about poor old (young) Jesse. Avital. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus

[GO] sobbing

2004-11-13 Thread Avital
Did anyone mention Tuck Everlasting? I still get a bit sniffly just thinking about poor old (young) Jesse. Avital. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 -- __

[GO] DF Bruce

2004-11-13 Thread Avital
I've just read my first Dorita Fairlie Bruce book, The Girls of St Bride's. I loved the book, but think the girls sound pretty awful on the whole, only liking people if they have done anything "for the school". And as for the "sneaking", if the other girls' lives were at risk then Winifred/Cynthia

[GO] anthea althea

2004-11-13 Thread Avital
I have knows a few AN-theas, but always imagine al-THEE-a to be pronounced like that. Having never known an Althea, I don't know why I do that, or if it is right. Avital --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus D

[GO] GO: The appropriateness of controversial subjects

2004-11-13 Thread claire
>>Yes, well, I can also say that every message I received personally was very positive, including some from self-avowed liberals. And a few expressed fear of going public to avoid being attacked as I was. -- Eleanor << Eleanor, your guy *won*. So what's the problem? Claire -- __

Re: [GO] GO: The appropriateness of controversial subjects

2004-11-13 Thread Eleanor
At 10:30 AM 11/13/2004, Deborah A. Fleming wrote: The recent spark I started with the Pullman quote was not intended to cause anyone to come unhinged. I was genuinely shocked, despite Eleanor's unfounded accusations about my motives in posting the quote, that it would unleash such rage. I did not

[GO] Teas and Translation

2004-11-13 Thread Constance Martin
I agree with someone (Kate?) who commented recently that translators are only noticed when the translation seems awkward and ignored when their work is good. Despite this, I also noticed how prolific Anthea Bell is as a translator (fiction, non-fiction, juvenile). I seem to recall she wrote at le

[GO] GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Helen_A
Things will stay the same as they ever have been, so please stop worrying that the list will turn into a dictatorship :) The wide diversity of off topics will still happen and will not be subject to vetting unless an admin request sent to the list is ignored by one or more people after

[GO] Buffy - ON topic, I claim stoutly

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what >peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike >relationship question. Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy >to go of

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Helen_A
On 13 Nov 2004 at 16:48, KAIT BESSING wrote: > Could we know who the group of admins are, please? I know you and > Helen A, but who are the others? > > Kait Ann Dowker, Pat Hanby, Gareth Dixon, Susan Dunnachie, Pat Bland, Sally Odgers, Katherine Considine. A fairly even distribution between hem

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Helen_A
On 13 Nov 2004 at 10:23, Diane Purkiss wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes > >No, its the last resort, Diane. For use very sparingly, and only when > > admin requests have been not taken seriously. > > I know how aggravating that must be, Helen, and of co

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread KAIT BESSING
Could we know who the group of admins are, please? I know you and Helen A, but who are the others? Kait -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.2.2 - Release Date: 2004-11-12 -- Gi

Re: [GO] Buffy/Jonathan

2004-11-13 Thread KAIT BESSING
Huh. The disadvantages of being partially sighted. I don't recognise actors from one episode to the next (except the main ones), so I'd no idea he'd appeared so often! Yes, I've seen him in all those episodes, but never realised he was the same guy. Thanks for explaining it all. So what abou

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread telkomsa133851
I agree wholeheartedly with you and Diane (whose name I think I've just misspelt. Sorry!) It would be a great pity if GO were to change into yet another "Let's keep to the topic, please" sort of list so Helen's suggestion is quite a good way of avoiding this. I'm sure our list Admin., who are very

Re: [GO] Buffy

2004-11-13 Thread KAIT BESSING
Sandra Wright wrote: > Still on Buffy but totally unrelated >to Girlsown I am dying to know > what peoples' opinions are on >the whole Buffy and Angel or >Buffy and > Spike relationship question. Am >I the only one who prefers Spike >to > Angel? (Happy to go off-list!) I loved Buffy and Angel to

[GO] GO: The appropriateness of controversial subjects

2004-11-13 Thread Deborah A. Fleming
The recent spark I started with the Pullman quote was not intended to cause anyone to come unhinged. I was genuinely shocked, despite Eleanor's unfounded accusations about my motives in posting the quote, that it would unleash such rage. I did not think everyone would agree with what he said, but

Re: [GO] Wintles Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread nicky smith
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > It's my favourite NS as well: I did read it as a child, and thought that the > > ending was wonderful - I remember laughing out loud with triumph when I got > > there. It's a Cinderella story, of course, and how could one want > Cinderella > to stay sitting i

Re: [GO] Wintles Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread ReggieRhino
In a message dated 13/11/2004 12:03:01 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I only read Wintle's Wonders as an adult and liked it up until the last chapter when Rachel suddenly becomes a fabulous dramatic actress. Which I hated because it seemed as if NS had spent the whole bo

Re: [GO] Repulsive Dulcies

2004-11-13 Thread nicky smith
Quoting Ellen Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > And on the subject of repulsive Dulcies, did anyone mention the one in > Good-bye Gemma? > > I'd forgotten her but she does have my sympathy. I can't imagine a university drama group putting on a play and then not casting a student in the lead ! E

Re: [GO] Re: Finding Neverland

2004-11-13 Thread nicky smith
Quoting Ellen Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Oh yes, Barbara, that was a wonderful series. I particularly liked the > way Barrie was shown as in effect flirting with the boys, offering > exciting ideas and games (and his big friendly dog) and then withdrawing > his attention until they begged him t

Re: [GO] Wintles Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread Ellen Jordan
One of the things I find interesting about Wintle's Wonders (which is one of my top 5 Streatfeild favourites) is the parallels between Rachel and Sorel in Curtain Up, both retiring good girls who become obsessive about ensuring the future of a sibling, and both turning out to be really fine actress

Re: [GO] Re: Finding Neverland

2004-11-13 Thread Ellen Jordan
Oh yes, Barbara, that was a wonderful series. I particularly liked the way Barrie was shown as in effect flirting with the boys, offering exciting ideas and games (and his big friendly dog) and then withdrawing his attention until they begged him to play with them. I don't suppose this film goes o

RE: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Anita Graham
As the person who made the proposal, then announced it, I need to say that it is intended as a last resort. This is not about the normal OT discussions, which have been a part of girlsown since day 3, I think. This is about a temporary sanction to be used when people ignore the list admin's reque

[GO] Buffy/Jonathan

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >>Jonathan's speech when >presenting that daft >> umbrella at the Prom get me >every time: > >Is this the same Jonathan who's part of the three villains later? He's in a lot of episodes. A few examples: In Inca Mummy Girl the Inca

[GO] Books and knives

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
> >Another thing about books and Feng Shui is that the space on a shelf, at the >edge, can be considered a knife...not a good thing thing in Feng Shui. To help >to manage that energy, books should be lined flush with the edge of a shelf, >not pushed back on the shelf with space between the edge of

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Jane Twitty
I was relieved when I heard there was to be a possiblility of moderating & I didn't see it as a way of stiffling OT discussions, but of stopping them when the request to stop had not been heeded. I was getting very unhappy about the debate which occassioned this ultimate sanction. Yes, I was de

[GO] Wintles Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread LHermann2
I adore this book although (probably because) I only discovered it, in a charity shop, at the age of 25. I especially love the ending which I won't spoil for anyone! Rachel and Hilary do strike me as more planted in reality than the Fossils. Lisa -- ___

Re: [GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Ann Dowker
I also love the permeability of GO. And I think it's very important to be able to discuss politics and religion, as these are really central to much of the literature that we discuss. It would be difficult to discuss Pullman, C.S. Lewis, Antonia Forest, or most 19th-century authors without some re

Re: [GO] Wintle's Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread nicky smith
Quoting Marcia McGinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I haven't read Wintle's Wonders since I first read it as a child. I love > Noel Streatfeild but even when I'm have an NS binge I get to Wintle's > Wonders and think oh no, that's the one with the awful bit about the > birthday chair. I have almost

Re: [GO] Wintle's Wonders

2004-11-13 Thread Marcia McGinley
I haven't read Wintle's Wonders since I first read it as a child. I love Noel Streatfeild but even when I'm have an NS binge I get to Wintle's Wonders and think oh no, that's the one with the awful bit about the birthday chair. I have almost no recollection of the story but there must have bee

[GO] Getting OT? GO Admin

2004-11-13 Thread Diane Purkiss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >No, its the last resort, Diane. For use very sparingly, and only when >admin requests have been not taken seriously. I know how aggravating that must be, Helen, and of course I trust you. But although I don't want to be the Nita

[GO] free to good home CS books

2004-11-13 Thread Kathy & Kev
Don't get too excited though folks they're really not thrilling. Was about to throw them out but thought i'd offer first. CS and Barbara, 1967 holding together but ripped spine Peggy of the CS 1967, all pages there but its coming apart quite badly CS and Richenda 1984, about the same as Peggy, on