tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best
On 25 April 2014 11:12, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
The term 'staging
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 02:57:15 +, Karsten Blees wrote:
...
The latter. I don't know about 'broader', but I'll try to summarize _my_
world view:
(1) Audience matters
For actual users, we need an accurate model that supports a variety of use
cases without falling apart. IMO, a working
Karsten Blees wrote:
(2) Index
An index, as in a library, maps almost perfectly to what the git index is
_and_ what we do with it.
Not really. An index in the context of a library, and in any other context, is
a tool that indicates where something is, in order to find it quickly.
That is
Am 19.10.2013 16:08, schrieb Philip Oakley:
From: Karsten Blees karsten.bl...@gmail.com
Am 15.10.2013 00:29, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we
should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past
From: Karsten Blees karsten.bl...@gmail.com
Am 15.10.2013 00:29, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we
should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for
I'm lacking time to read and answer in detail, sorry.
Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes:
It must be done is different from any change is good, as long as
it introduces more instances of word 'stage'.
I agree. Something must be done, at least to remove the cache Vs index
confusion. I'm
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Matthieu Moy
matthieu@grenoble-inp.fr wrote:
I'm lacking time to read and answer in detail, sorry.
Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes:
It must be done is different from any change is good, as long as
it introduces more instances of word 'stage'.
I
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Matthieu Moy
matthieu@grenoble-inp.fr wrote:
I'm lacking time to read and answer in detail, sorry.
Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes:
It must be done is different from any change is good, as long as
it introduces more instances of word 'stage'.
I
On 17.10.2013, at 21:50, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
[...]
However, since you asked, I would share a couple of comments
regarding the index, cache and staging area.
(1) Staging area.
The phrase staging area is not an
Am 15.10.2013 00:29, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it,
Karsten Blees wrote:
Am 15.10.2013 00:29, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should
move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Junio, can you make an exception and reply to this thread? The change
to move away from the term the index has been suggested many times
since many years ago, it is an extremely important change to users,
and all the Git developers agree it
Junio C Hamano wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Junio, can you make an exception and reply to this thread? The change
to move away from the term the index has been suggested many times
since many years ago, it is an extremely important change to users,
and all
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should move
away from the name the index.
Junio, can you make an exception and reply to this thread? The change
to move away from the term the
tl;dr: everyone except Junio C Hamano and Drew Northup agrees; we should move
away from the name the index.
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best
From: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:33 AM
[snip...]
The snapshot concept is totally orthogonal from the staging area
concept. Git works in snapshots, which are frozen images of how the
content tree was at a certain point in time; IOW; a commit.
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org wrote:
From: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:33 AM
[snip...]
The snapshot concept is totally orthogonal from the staging area
concept. Git works in snapshots, which are frozen
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki
piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote:
Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday:
http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2
The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki
piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote:
Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday:
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki
piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote:
Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał:
I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the
documentation clearer and more
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Swanson swanson...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with
On 6 September 2013 08:45, Ping Yin pkufra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Swanson swanson...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
I realize Git
Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday:
http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2
The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead he
writes in following way:
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki
piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote:
Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday:
http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2
The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki
piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote:
Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał:
I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the
documentation clearer and more succinct. The reality is that a user
needs to build a model in their mind of
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has
Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well,
unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another option starts with --work, too. So you
can have a descriptive, extra-long
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 2:46 AM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well,
unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another option
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:46 AM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well,
unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
Again, *everyone* has agreed that index needs to be renamed, and
staging area is the best option.
Do I really need to go through all the discussions and list each and
every person that participated in them,
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
IIRC, when this was discussed, many non-native speakers had trouble
with the verb to stage, not just from i18n/l10n point of view.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the threads once again:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/197111
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the threads once again:
Hi,
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
The term 'staging area' is more intuitive for newcomers which are more
familiar with English
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
add is the verb, not index (which is a noun
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
Thanks for working on this. No time for a
Matthieu Moy wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term.
Thanks for working
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Matthieu Moy wrote:
These explanations make sense. I think it would be better to put part of
it in commit messages, so that future contributors can git blame the
doc/implem of these --stage and find them (i.e. avoid the
misunderstanding
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
add an explanation in Documentation/gitstagingarea.txt
or something.
There's Documentation/gitcli.txt, that will need updating anyway (at the
bottom, it talks about --cached and --index).
--
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/
--
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that
Am 29.08.2013 20:57, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
Matthieu Moy wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Moreover, the --stage and --work
--work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately imply
working tree. It is tempting to call the option --work-tree, but
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote:
Am 29.08.2013 20:57, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
Matthieu Moy wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Moreover, the --stage and --work
--work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
Matthieu Moy wrote:
--work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately imply
working tree. It is tempting to call the option --work-tree, but git
already has a global option with that name (git --work-tree=foo bar).
Yes,
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and
it has been agreed that
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote:
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes:
It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an
appropriate description
Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał:
I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the
documentation clearer and more succinct. The reality is that a user
needs to build a model in their mind of what they are doing which maps
enough (completely is not required) to what is actually
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