Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-25 Thread Alvin Orzechowski
I'm gonna declare myself stalemated, Marko. End of the debate for me. Both sides won... or lost depending on your temperament. Enjoy the new Compose in peace and happiness. The Gmail developers are as proud of you as they are as frustrated with me. Shalom, Salaam, Alvin *“Not a shred of eviden

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-24 Thread Alvin
> Back to the new compose window, if you bring up the formatting options > while you happen to be editing the bottom line, it moves the text up so > that it doesn't 'clutter' the last line as you say. > > That wasn't my experience, Marko. Could be that the new Compose performs differently in

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-24 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Alvin Orzechowski < alvin.orzechow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought I quoted a corollary to Murphy's Law, Marko. And yes this > discussion--which is off the original topic--is about Gmail compose that's > what I was talking about because the old Gmail compose is a

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-24 Thread Alvin Orzechowski
I thought I quoted a corollary to Murphy's Law, Marko. And yes this discussion--which is off the original topic--is about Gmail compose that's what I was talking about because the old Gmail compose is almost exactly like the Google Groups post compose. I meant to make it easy to reference, and I

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-23 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Andy wrote: > I think he is referring to the "new new" compose window, when composing a > new message, with the new "full-screen" option enabled. (Not really > full-screen, but that is Google's term for it. In other words, not the > "old new" compose window in th

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-22 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Alvin Orzechowski < alvin.orzechow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought "You will notice that when *these posts*..." made it clear I > meant the Group Interface, Marko. Alas, there's a corollary to Murohy's > Law that goes, " > If you can explain something so clearly

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-21 Thread Karin Anders
Sure did On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Marko Vukovic wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, karina wrote: > >> Tabs just a bit *too* much. >> > > Just turn them off then? > > -- > Marko > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Gma

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-21 Thread Alvin Orzechowski
I thought "You will notice that when *these posts*..." made it clear I meant the Group Interface, Marko. Alas, there's a corollary to Murohy's Law that goes, "If you can explain something so clearly that no one can misunderstand, someone will misunderstand." A short video comparing the old and ne

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-21 Thread Andy
> > You will notice that when these posts are being composed there is a >> nice row of formatting options above, *all* visible *without* hovering >> or clicking, which make them obvious, easy to get to and use, and they >> don't clutter the last line; usually the one being typed. Maybe I'm just a

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-21 Thread Andy
> > The new compose requires many more steps (usually more mouse clicks, >> sometimes twice as many) to get the same job done. Maybe you don't see >> that as "worse". I'm sure there are some who are delighted to click away >> until the cows come home. But for me, fewer steps are better, more ste

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Alvin wrote: > You will notice that when these posts are being composed there is a > nice row of formatting options above, *all* visible *without* hovering or > clicking, which make them obvious, easy to get to and use, and they don't > clutter the last line; usua

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, karina wrote: > Tabs just a bit *too* much. > Just turn them off then? -- Marko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gmail-Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Marko Vukovic
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Andy wrote: > ... >> We've heard many complaints about the new compose but I've yet to hear >> one that offers any compelling evidence as to why it is worse, or why the >> old one is better. >> > > You might not have been paying much attention to them. > > Here's

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Andy
Marko wrote: ... > We've heard many complaints about the new compose but I've yet to hear > one that offers any compelling evidence as to why it is worse, or why the > old one is better. > You might not have been paying much attention to them. Here's a few. The new compose requires many more s

[Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread karina
I agree Alvin, Tabs just a bit *too* much. If sorting email is an asset to some users then a "Sort By" option, like the "Mark Important or Unimportant" would be less intrusive. On Friday, July 19, 2013 9:19:10 PM UTC-4, Alvin wrote: > Sorry, the New Inbox does not do anything for me.

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Alvin
Hey, Marko. You will notice that when these posts are being composed there is a nice row of formatting options above, *all* visible *without* hovering or clicking, which make them obvious, easy to get to and use, and they don't clutter the last line; usually the one being typed. Maybe I'm just

Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-20 Thread Marko Vukovic
Hi Alvin On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Alvin wrote: > Sorry, the New Inbox does not do anything for me. I don't have--or > want--a social networking account, and it looked like one of the tabs was > just another way to get advertised at. > Of course you can just turn off the Social tab if y

[Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-19 Thread Alvin
Sorry, the New Inbox does not do anything for me. I don't have--or want--a social networking account, and it looked like one of the tabs was just another way to get advertised at. What I am a fan of is that it was easy, and obvious, how to get back to the original Inbox. Kudos to the Gmail

[Gmail-Users] Re: New Inbox Becoming Default

2013-07-19 Thread berneAI
I agree that having a choice is important, but I agree with paradox (below) that I have found the new interface very useful and a bit help dealing with my daily load of approx 100 emails. Being able to prioritize this way is a bonus over having to go through and set filters and manually label la