Re: [gmx-users] pull code - constraint pulling - forces are zeros

2013-03-18 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi, I believe there is no force output for constraint pulling. Try umbrella. Erik On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:28 PM, raghav singh wrote: Hello Fellow Users, I am trying to pull a DNA molecule. I have fixed one end and trying to pull the other one using this .mdp file.. force output is all zeros

RE: [gmx-users] Pull code, Velocity distribution

2012-11-17 Thread Samadashvili Nino
[gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 5:04 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Pull code, Velocity distribution On 11/2/12 10:52 AM, Samadashvili Nino wrote: > Hello, > > I have

RE: [gmx-users] Pull code, Velocity distribution

2012-11-05 Thread Samadashvili Nino
[jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 5:04 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Pull code, Velocity distribution On 11/2/12 10:52 AM, Samadashvili Nino wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using the pull code for friction calculations. I am not

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code, Velocity distribution

2012-11-02 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 11/2/12 10:52 AM, Samadashvili Nino wrote: Hello, I have been using the pull code for friction calculations. I am not doing umbrella sampling but just pulling one slab of crystal on top of another with the constant velocity. I would like to know how Gromacs is calculating the pu

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with pull_geometry = cylinder generates error: Distance of pull group 1 (4.030185 nm) is larger than 0.49 times the box size (3.012310)

2012-10-05 Thread David van der Spoel
On 2012-10-04 11:50, Emma Eriksson wrote: Dear all, I am using the pull code in Gromacs 4.5.5 to constrain the distance in one direction (z) between a small molecule and a lipid bilayer. I run separate simulations with distances 0-4 nm constrained. I use pull_geometry = cylinder. The pull par

Re: [gmx-users] pull-code

2012-02-17 Thread lloyd riggs
Hello, I was following your argument but then doesnt pull_dim=Y Y Y mean it pulls in all directions at once? I use pull_dim=N N Y , or just 1 pull direction and it works. I might be wrong, but would be interesting if you got it to work like that for a small molecule. Stephan Watkins ---

[Fwd: Re: [gmx-users] pull-code]

2012-02-17 Thread Gavin Melaugh
--- Begin Message --- Hi Thomas I am sorry to bother you but if you could answer a few questions I have about how the pull-code works with respect to my system I would really appreciate it. My system is a liquid and I am trying to pull one substituent of one liquid molecule in a certain region of

Re: [gmx-users] pull-code

2012-02-17 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Thomas A few points below under your points Thomas Schlesier wrote: > Yes you are right, should be between 0 and >0. > > Do you have a window for a distance equal 0? Yes > > > This window should behave similar to the RDF-analysis. Because there > are "no directions". It doesn't. By this I mea

Re: [gmx-users] pull-code

2012-02-17 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Thomas I am sorry to bother you but if you could answer a few questions I have about how the pull-code works with respect to my system I would really appreciate it. My system is a liquid and I am trying to pull one substituent of one liquid molecule in a certain region of another liquid molecul

Re: [gmx-users] pull-code

2012-02-17 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Thomas Many thanks for the reply again. At larger distances the two curves match up quite well. The curve from the reversible work theorem is better behaved and smoother but this could be solely due to statistics. I am slightly confused about your statement "If the small circle moves between 0

Re: [gmx-users] pull code problem: between protofilaments

2011-10-03 Thread Shilpi Chaurasia
Dear Chris, Thank a lot for your reply. I am trying the pull code that you have suggested. And I would be more specific about the problem and code in my future mails. regards, Shilpi On 02/10/11, chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote: > Dear Shilpi: > > Can you use something like this? > > pull 

Re: [gmx-users] pull code: distance between pull grp and ref grp is more than usual at the begining of simulation (at 1st time frame 1 ps)

2011-09-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Shilpi Chaurasia wrote: Dear Justin, Thanks a lot for your reply. Here I am providing the data and explaining the problem in detail: I hope that it will help you in understanding in a better way. Considering the tetramer as 'abcd'. 'ab' as one dimer and 'cd' as another, I want to separate

Re: [gmx-users] pull code: distance between pull grp and ref grp is more than usual at the begining of simulation (at 1st time frame 1 ps)

2011-09-13 Thread Shilpi Chaurasia
Dear Justin, Thanks a lot for your reply. Here I am providing the data and explaining the problem in detail: I hope that it will help you in understanding in a better way. Considering the tetramer as 'abcd'.  'ab' as one dimer and 'cd' as another, I want to separate 'ab' and 'cd'. Length o

Re: [gmx-users] pull code: distance between pull grp and ref grp is more than usual at the begining of simulation (at 1st time frame 1 ps)

2011-09-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Shilpi Chaurasia wrote: I am trying to pull apart two dimers of tubulin protein joined together, to form two separate dimers by steered molecular dynamics using Pull code. The objective is to separate the dimers by pulling along one axis only (Y axis). I ran the simulation for 25 ps and it

Re: [gmx-users] pull code

2011-02-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Sent: 10 February 2011 12:33 To: Gromacs Users' List Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pull code Poojari, Chetan wrote: Hi Justin, Thank you very much for your suggestions. I will use constraint force to force a peptide into a membrane with pulling for longer time. yes with "POSRES_LIPID&

RE: [gmx-users] pull code

2011-02-14 Thread Poojari, Chetan
mkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: 10 February 2011 12:33 To: Gromacs Users' List Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pull code Poojari, Chetan wrote: > Hi Justin, > > Thank you very much for your suggestions. I will use constraint force to > force a peptide into a membrane with pulling for longer

Re: [gmx-users] pull code

2011-02-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
st for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pull code Poojari, Chetan wrote: Hi, I am using umbrella sampling to pull my peptide (peptide starting from above the lipid bilayer) into the hydrophobic core of the lipid bilayer. Following are my inputs i have used: title = Umbrella pulli

RE: [gmx-users] pull code

2011-02-10 Thread Poojari, Chetan
ubject: Re: [gmx-users] pull code Poojari, Chetan wrote: > Hi, > > I am using umbrella sampling to pull my peptide (peptide starting from above > the lipid bilayer) into the hydrophobic core of the lipid bilayer. > > Following are my inputs i have used: > > title

Re: [gmx-users] pull code

2011-02-09 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Poojari, Chetan wrote: Hi, I am using umbrella sampling to pull my peptide (peptide starting from above the lipid bilayer) into the hydrophobic core of the lipid bilayer. Following are my inputs i have used: title = Umbrella pulling simulation define = -DPOSRES_LIPID ; Ru

Re: [gmx-users] pull code absolute reference

2010-08-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
bv07ay wrote: Hello, i am having trouble using the pull options in gromacs 4.0.4. i am simply trying to move a protein from the top of the box to a certain point in the center. i have had no luck using a constant pulling or umbrella pulling the error i receive is: "You are using an absol

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code

2010-07-01 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Justin Thanks for your help. The two molecules are now moving together. I am however slightly confused about the parameters pull_rate1 and pull_k1. I want the molecules to come together very slowly therefore I would set the rate to be a very small value. How the does the force come into play an

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code

2010-06-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Hi Justin Thanks. If I use the pull_geometry = direction I would go for the following jus t to pull the molecules together in the z direction. pull= umbrella pull_geometry = direction pull_start = yes pull_ngroups = 1 pull_group0 = cage_1 pull_group1 = cage_2 pull

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code

2010-06-30 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Justin Thanks. If I use the pull_geometry = direction I would go for the following jus t to pull the molecules together in the z direction. pull= umbrella pull_geometry = direction pull_start = yes pull_ngroups = 1 pull_group0 = cage_1 pull_group1 = cage_2 pull_vec1 = 0.0 0.0 -1.0 pull

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code

2010-06-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Hi all I am commencing the initial stages for he calculation of potential of mean force of bringing together two cage molecules. I am following the tutorial in such an exercise at http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/05_pull.html

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-18 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, With only 1 pull dimension active (through pull_dims) all three geometries are equivalent. In 2 or 3D there are all different. With pull_geometry=direction the pull force is the force working along the direction vector. So in general you can't incorporate the direction (only sign in your c

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-15 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, I would still say pull_geometry=direction would be the easiest solution for this case, but pull_geometry=position will probably do the same thing. Berk > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:11:43 -0500 > From: chris.ne...@utoronto.ca > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Subject: [gmx-users] pull code with

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-15 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, Sorry, but I have no clue what you mean with sampling >0 and how you would end up with a bimodal distribution. You don't mean the box 0, do you? That is irrelevant. What can be a problem is that you pull distance should not be more than half the box length. Berk > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 1

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-15 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, I only now noticed Justin mail on g_wham. You can probably also use pull_geometry=distance and pull_init=1, if you starting structure has group1 close to 1 nm below group 0. Berk From: g...@hotmail.com To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Subject: RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-15 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, pull_init should be 1, not 4.75, if you want group1 to be 1 nm below group0. Alternatively you can have vec = 0 0 1 and pull_init = -1. Berk > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:54:54 -0500 > From: chris.ne...@utoronto.ca > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Subject: [gmx-users] pull code with defined nega

Re: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Berk Hess wrote: Hi, You should use pull_geometry=direction. distances don't get negative. I think this presents a problem if one is intending to use g_wham to calculate PMF from the umbrella sampling protocol. When using direction for pull_geometry, g_wham fails with a fatal error: ---

RE: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements

2009-11-14 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, You should use pull_geometry=direction. distances don't get negative. Berk > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:21:39 -0500 > From: chris.ne...@utoronto.ca > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Subject: [gmx-users] pull code with defined negative relative displacements > > Hello, I am re-running some of ou

RE: Re : [gmx-users] PULL CODE AND NpT ensemble

2009-08-27 Thread Berk Hess
: Re : [gmx-users] PULL CODE AND NpT ensemble Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:03:56 -0400 From: gigita...@aol.fr Hi Berk, Thanks for your answer. I just want to be sure that the procedure is correct. No I do not look at the pressure/volume fluctutation. But I do want to make a clever choice of the

Re : [gmx-users] PULL CODE AND NpT ensemble

2009-08-27 Thread gigitang5
Berk Hess A : Discussion list for GROMACS users Envoyé le : Jeudi, 27 Août 2009 13:45 Sujet : RE: [gmx-users] PULL CODE AND NpT ensemble Hi, I would use v-rescale and Berendsen pressure coupling. Although Berendsen pressure coupling, strictly speaking, does not give the correct ensembl

RE: [gmx-users] PULL CODE AND NpT ensemble

2009-08-27 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, I would use v-rescale and Berendsen pressure coupling. Although Berendsen pressure coupling, strictly speaking, does not give the correct ensemble, in practice it produces negligible artifacts, unless you are looking at pressure/volume fluctuations. Berk To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Date: Th

RE: [gmx-users] pull code problem

2009-08-06 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, First, please switch to 4.0.5, I have put several fixes in the pull code in the 4.0 minor releases. You did not specify pull_init1, nor pull_start, this means you start pulling at a distance of 0, which means the center of the bilayer. Setting pull_start = yes should fix your problem. Berk

RE: [gmx-users] pull code problem

2009-05-11 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, Maybe there is an older grompp in your path. Type grompp -h to see which version you are using. And: which grompp to see where it comes from. Berk > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:03:07 +0300 > From: neamtuand...@gmail.com > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Subject: [gmx-users] pull code problem > >

RE: [gmx-users] pull code problem

2009-05-11 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, Do you have another line with "pull =" somewhere in your mdp file? PS You should switch to Gromacs 4.0.4, since it contains several small bug fixes for the pull code. Berk > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:38:35 +0300 > From: neamtuand...@gmail.com > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Subject: [gmx-use

RE: [gmx-users] pull code absolute reference artifacts

2009-04-17 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, I have no clue why you would want to fix the peptide in the middle of the box. But what you want seems to be more like com removal for the peptide only with the comm options. The pull code will do approximately what you want, but with pressure coupling there is the problem that your peptide w

Re: [gmx-users] pull code absolute reference artifacts

2009-04-16 Thread rversace
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Re: [gmx-users] Pull code using two reaction coordinates??

2009-03-16 Thread XAvier Periole
Hi Rodney, the other alternative is to define the springs in your topology file. You first need to merge your groups (is part of different molecules) and run the different combination you need by defining them by hand; you can easily write a awk script to generate the different topologies

Re: [gmx-users] pull code, lambda, and soft core availability

2009-02-12 Thread Matt Wyczalkowski
This seems to be a good reference for soft-core interactions. BEUTLER et al. AVOIDING SINGULARITIES AND NUMERICAL INSTABILITIES IN FREE-ENERGY CALCULATIONS BASED ON MOLECULAR SIMULATIONS. Chem Phys Lett (1994) vol. 222 pp. 529-539 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM, wrote: Does anybody know of a

Re: [gmx-users] pull code

2009-01-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
avinash kumar wrote: Hello all, does anybody possess a sample of "pull.pdo" data file for pull codes. The pull.pdo file is output, are you sure that's what you want, or do you want a pull.ppa input file? Either way, enter "pull.pdo" or "pull.ppa" into the Search page for the archive and

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, If you pull without a reference, you will be doing nothing in the limit of slow pulling. For fast pulling you will be doing something. pull_start=yes pull_init1=0 will initialize set pull_init to the initial distance. Berk > Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems > From

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread DimitryASuplatov
orce on the COM of the whole system. > > The AFM option is no longer there. > I never understood what the difference between Umbrella and AFM was. > But Umbrella (as well as constraint) should be able to do all things > that were possible before (and more). > > Berk > &

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread Berk Hess
to do all things that were possible before (and more). Berk > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems > From: gene...@gmail.com > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:44:36 +0300 > > OK, > I have a new problem. > I`ve started the simulation

Re: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread DimitryASuplatov
OK, I have a new problem. I`ve started the simulation with the following pull parameters  ;---PULL CODE - pull<-->=<-> umbrella pull_geometry<->= direction pull_group0<-->= r_500 pull_group1<--->= r_535 pull_vec1<->= -1.306 1.355 -0.319 pull_k1><-->= 1000

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, pullx.xvg has the coordinates of group 0 and the distances of the other groups to group 0. pullf.xvg has the force of the umbrella potential which works along the direction vector you gave, this can be positive or negative depending on the direction. Berk > Subject: RE: [gmx-users] P

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread DimitryASuplatov
OK, I did some homework and now I`m up to this: ;---PULL CODE - pull= umbrella pull_geometry = direction pull_group0 = r_500 pull_group1 = r_535 pull_vec1 = -1.306 1.355 -0.319 pull_k1 = 1000 pull_rate1 = 0.5 ; nm/ps Extreme para

RE: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems

2009-01-13 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, You don't indicate which xvg file was 0, I guess pullf.xvg. Could it be that you did not specify a force constant, meaning fc=0? Berk > From: gene...@gmail.com > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:26:47 +0300 > Subject: [gmx-users] Pull Code problems > > Hello, > > I am

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with runtype start

2007-10-20 Thread dtmirij
Mark, I just checked and it seems I was consulting a manual for an older version than 3.3.1! I guess it was taken out in 3.3.1 Sorry for not being more careful. Thank you. -Dina On 10/20/07 4:16 PM, "Mark Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dtmirij wrote: >> I searched the on line document for

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with runtype start

2007-10-20 Thread Mark Abraham
dtmirij wrote: I searched the on line document for runtype and got nothing. But in the Manual in chapter 6 there is an overveiw of the pull code options and one of the options listed is the "starting structures" and it says the keyword for runtype to use for this is "start". http://www.gromac

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with runtype start

2007-10-20 Thread dtmirij
I searched the on line document for runtype and got nothing. But in the Manual in chapter 6 there is an overveiw of the pull code options and one of the options listed is the "starting structures" and it says the keyword for runtype to use for this is "start". On 10/19/07 6:55 PM, "Mark Abraham

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with runtype start

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Abraham
dtmirij wrote: Hello everyone, I just want to clarify if the runtype "start" option works in gromacs-3.3.1. I didn't see anything in the mailings list suggesting that it doesn't. Did you try searching the manual for "runtype"? Mark ___ gmx-users mai

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code methods?

2007-08-20 Thread Maik Goette
I'm no umbrella user, but as far as I know, you have to set different parameters, according to the manual. These may be similar to the AFM parameters, but still, in the config file, they are separated. Sure, you don't define a pull rate for Umbrella, because you build, as you said, discrete syst

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code methods?

2007-08-17 Thread bmmothan
Hi Maik, Thank you for the answer. I still have some questions. I still didn't get the umberalla sampling method. It seems to me AFM and umberalla are the same except that in umberalla we dont define a Pull rate. Looking at the literature, people have been using umberalla method with discrete sim

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code methods?

2007-08-16 Thread Maik Goette
Hi You have to tell GROMACS in the parameters-file (.ppa) which kind of PMF you want to calculate (runtype=afm,umbrella). Depending on this choice it's very likely that the afm_rate is simply ignored for umbrella, no? The force constant is mimicking the stiffness of the spring. You want to o

Re: [gmx-users] Pull code with shuffle/sort options

2007-08-10 Thread Steve Fiedler
Thank you Chris for providing recognition of this issue. -Steve Chris Neale wrote: I have encountered noticeable differences while using the pull code with the -shuffle -sort options in parallel, as opposed to running in serial or in parallel without the options. Using -shuffle -sort, the dy