Re: Flyers @ computer show?

2000-05-05 Thread Bobnhlinux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob, > I sent 9 press releases to the papers that I thought we had a chance to get > in for before Tues. > Charlie and I will be there to sell, support adn bring some goodies for the > attendees. > Jerry > Does this mean you are going to be at the computer show?

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Randy Edwards
> ONLY thing that keeps our environment from being 100% Linux is that our > management and staff types INSIST that we be able to read and write MS > Office formats, in order to communicate with our customers. Have you checked out the new StarOffice 5.2 beta? In my playing with it I've found i

Re: Need help restoring first 1.44 bytes of hda1

2000-05-05 Thread Jerry Callen
Jeff Macdonald wrote: > > Hi, > Like a bonehead, I did this: > > dd if=loaf1.img of=/dev/hda1 > > instead of this: > > dd if=loaf1.img of=/dev/fd0 Oooo, that hurts! I can picture this: you type the command, hit enter, nothing happens with the floppy drive, you look at the command you just t

Re: Time to buy those SCSI cards..

2000-05-05 Thread Randy Edwards
> Is this still the best-quality/best-supported card in this arena? > SCSI3, 14 devices, ultra-wide.. Best, of course, is relative. For something to factor into your equation, let me recommend AdvanSys cards as a cheaper alternative. I've bought a couple of their

Re: Need help restoring first 1.44 bytes of hda1

2000-05-05 Thread Joshua Flythe
I have used Tiramisu in the past to recover data from corrupt FAT and NTFS file systems. I usually use it if all else fails. JDF >Derek Martin wrote: > > Today, Jeff Macdonald gleaned this insight: > > > So I figured I blew the partition table, and maybe just > > command.com? Will Norton fix

Re: Need help restoring first 1.44 bytes of hda1

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Jeff Macdonald gleaned this insight: > So I figured I blew the partition table, and maybe just > command.com? Will Norton fix this? Any suggestions? And no, I don't have > a backup. "I don't think so, he's already got one, you see?" I'm no FAT expert, but you've just blown away the first

Need help restoring first 1.44 bytes of hda1

2000-05-05 Thread Jeff Macdonald
Hi, Like a bonehead, I did this: dd if=loaf1.img of=/dev/hda1 instead of this: dd if=loaf1.img of=/dev/fd0 hda1 is my windows disk. Until quicken runs natively on Linux, I will still use Windows. So I figured I blew the partition table, and maybe just command.com? Will Norton fix this? Any su

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: > > I like Linux, it is a powerful, somewhat stable OS. But compared to > > Windows, it has virtually no applications. > > Oh, not *that* argument again. Talk about your dead horses. The number of > independent programs available for an OS really do

Re: Simple network conundrum

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 5 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the simplest network imaginable. Two boxes hooked together with > two Realtek NE2000 ISA 10Base2/T cards. One is a Windows box and the > other is dual boot. They both communicate and ping in the Windows mode, > but now I want to connect in th

Re: Bandwidth degredation on a socket..

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Thomas Charron wrote: > Any large downloads or uploads to the machine gradually degregate > bandwidthwise, untill they hit a timeout.. It's not the bandwidth to the > MACHINE that degrades, just accross that oner individual socket. Sounds like a resource leak somewhere.

Microsoft's take on "LoveLetter"

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
An excerpt from their security bulletin: > Customers can avoid being affected by this virus by following standard best > practices: > > - Never run an executable from someone you don?t know. > - Always have a good-quality virus scanner > - Always keep the virus scanner?s signa

RE: TECO on *ix?

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Jerry Eckert wrote: > I wonder if there's any single piece of software that's run on more > platforms than TECO? Info-ZIP claims to the be the third most portable program in the world. The second most portable (they say) is the "Kermit" program from Columbia University.

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan wrote: >> But the plain truth is Microsoft brought computers to the masses. >> How they did it doesn't matter. If Unix had prevailed there is no way >> the common person today would be using the level of technology that >> they presently do. On Fri, 5 May 2000

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan wrote: > Please let's not turn this into the typical MS bashing Linux group. Oh, come on, is there any other kind? ;-) > I like Linux, it is a powerful, somewhat stable OS. But compared to > Windows, it has virtually no applications. Oh, not *that* argume

Simple network conundrum

2000-05-05 Thread imagelab
I have the simplest network imaginable. Two boxes hooked together with two Realtek NE2000 ISA 10Base2/T cards. One is a Windows box and the other is dual boot. They both communicate and ping in the Windows mode, but now I want to connect in the mixed mode. I'm using RH 5.2. Loop back works fi

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > brilliant businessmen and marketeers, which can't be denied; but their > > products suck. Plain and simple. > But how do you really feel? Don't hold back, now. Well, I would elaborate, but I'll just end up pissing everyone off,

Re: Time to buy those SCSI cards..

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Specifically, I'm looking to buy a couple of Adaptec 2940UW PCI > cards.. unless there's something better (and equally-well supported > by Linux). > > Is this still the best-quality/best-supported card in this arena? > SCSI3, 14 devices, ultra-

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread ccb
> I never said he was a programming genius, but he is a genius. A > marketing and business genius, and a visionary. And along the way he > turned everybody on to technology. Questionable tactics? Come on, > they've said that about everybody that gets on top, it's an American > passtime, but i

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Jeffry Smith
"jim t.p. ryan" wrote: > > Yeah, we can't get our personal POP mail here so I have to use a web based E-mail >client. > > I use Linux at home with Star Office, Netscape, etc. I can do a somewhat adequate > job, but lets face it, it's no MS Office. As for installations, it's still pretty > m

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan wrote: > I don't think there are many people in the Linux/Unix community, or > any community for that matter that can match what he has done. I > always find it amusing when I see people pointing at the blue screen > or the bugs, but at the same time I don't see

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Jeffry Smith
Derek Martin wrote: > brilliant businessmen and marketeers, which can't be denied; but their > products suck. Plain and simple. But how do you really feel? Don't hold back, now. jeff Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Con

Another variant - Mother's Day order confirmation

2000-05-05 Thread Jerry Eckert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of enews Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AntiVirus / AV-alert Newsletter from Computer Associates, Version 00.32 May 5, 2000 = E

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread jim t.p. ryan
Yeah, we can't get our personal POP mail here so I have to use a web based E-mail client. I use Linux at home with Star Office, Netscape, etc. I can do a somewhat adequate job, but lets face it, it's no MS Office. As for installations, it's still pretty much a crapshoot. For example, I had

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, David Roberts wrote: > Linux is at the point now where it *DOES* have just about as many (I'm > assuming you meant) office applications as M$. It's install procedures > are just about as good as well (I have just not had to use them as > much as the M$ install procedures). I

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan wrote: > Please let's not turn this into the typical MS bashing Linux group. > I like Linux, it is a powerful, somewhat stable OS. Somewhat stable? Linux has proven itself to be very stable, except when truly stressing the machine to the limit, and Windows i

RE: TECO on *ix?

2000-05-05 Thread Jerry Eckert
Thanks Bill! I'll have to take a look at those. I wonder if there's any single piece of software that's run on more platforms than TECO? - Jerry $EX$$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Sconce Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:11 PM To: [

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Jeffry Smith
"jim t.p. ryan" wrote: > > I never said he was a programming genius, but he is a genius. A marketing and > business genius, and a visionary. And along the way he turned everybody on to > technology. Questionable tactics? Come on, they've said that about everybody that > gets on top, it's a

Re: TECO on *ix?

2000-05-05 Thread Bill Sconce
Jerry Eckert wrote: > > Does anyone know if TECO was ever ported to any variant of Unix? And, if > so, where I might get a copy? I didn't see that you got a reply, Jerry. I saw your original post, but only today, when I happened to be doing a little hacking in TECO, did I get around to it.

Bandwidth degredation on a socket..

2000-05-05 Thread Thomas Charron
I have a question people may or may not have seen before. I have a machine that is connected to an sDSL line. The line itself works great. Here's the catch.. Any large downloads or uploads to the machine gradually degregate bandwidthwise, untill they hit a timeout.. It's not the bandwi

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread jim t.p. ryan
I never said he was a programming genius, but he is a genius. A marketing and business genius, and a visionary. And along the way he turned everybody on to technology. Questionable tactics? Come on, they've said that about everybody that gets on top, it's an American passtime, but it's old

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing

2000-05-05 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
"jim t.p. ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I don't think there are many people in the Linux/Unix community, >>> or any community for that matter that can match what he has done. You're right - his total disregard for business ethics, and his absolute dominance in any activity he's ever inv

Re: ISSalert: Internet Security Systems Security Alert (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
I'm hearing unofficial rumblings that one of the copycats tells you that some amount of money is being credited to your credit card for something that you ordered and that you need to open the attachment to verify the information. Over and above the damage initially caused by the amorous VBS scr

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said >> some Congress-being who has no love for M$ also griped in session >> today about it... yay! To which Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied >>> I caught that on the evening news; a Congressman sort of dismissing >>> virus issue by saying that the person should

Time to buy those SCSI cards..

2000-05-05 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
I asked a few weeks ago about how to find the best prices on items, and now the time has come to actually buy some of 'em. Specifically, I'm looking to buy a couple of Adaptec 2940UW PCI cards.. unless there's something better (and equally-well supported by Linux). Is this still the best-quality

Configuring PLIP on a stock RH6.0

2000-05-05 Thread Bill Freeman
Has anyone of you configured PLIP on a stock kernel Red Hat 6.0 system? I would appreciate any information that will help me avoid re-reading myriad HOWTOs and source code (and probably still failing). linuxconf is willing to try, but fails. I've tried a few things from the root

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread David Roberts
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan said: Jim > From: jim t.p. ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim > Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:07:32 -0700 Jim > Subject: Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and Jim > kill viruswriters) Jim >

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Greg Kettmann
Jim (and all). I must adamantly disagree with your viewpoint. I've been a friend and then a foe of M$ for many years. Yes, their products are easy to use, and yes, Mr. Bill is VERY good at plagiarizing others idea and then crushing them (and yes, that is a compliment, sort of), just ask Digit

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread jim t.p. ryan
Well said. This is exactly why I hate it when I see Linux users get off on this MS bashing kick. They live in 2 different worlds, the everyday user and the technical users. I personally think Gates and crew have done amazing things given the user population that is their market. I don't t

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread ccb
The virus has done it's damage. I received a grand total of two copies of the viral message. I've received over 200 messages on various mailing lists discussing it. Virus writers are only doing their job. There should be civil liabilities law suits against Microsoft for their neglegence in th

More Re: Security Alert

2000-05-05 Thread Bruce McCulley
Yes, I heard some comment today about the imitators. I figure it's just a matter of time before the subject lines become indistingushable from real mail, let alone the garden variety spam. On a related topic, I've got some ideas for counter-measures, but I need some specialized expertise. Anyon

Re: ISSalert: Internet Security Systems Security Alert (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread Jeffry Smith
Thomas Charron wrote: > > As a small note, today we found ourselves infested by a derivative of > the original, but with a subject "Re: funnys..", and the file attachment was > named 'jokes'. Tipped me off when I saw the VBS icon on the atachment, but > I sure came close.. :-P > Listening

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and killviruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread David Roberts
On Fri, 5 May 2000, jim t.p. ryan said: Jim > From: jim t.p. ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim > Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 07:03:07 -0700 Jim > Subject: Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and Jim > kill viruswriters

Re: ISSalert: Internet Security Systems Security Alert (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread Thomas Charron
As a small note, today we found ourselves infested by a derivative of the original, but with a subject "Re: funnys..", and the file attachment was named 'jokes'. Tipped me off when I saw the VBS icon on the atachment, but I sure came close.. :-P ***

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread dwinn
I agree with you Jim, I'm an IT manager who supports 35 or so UNIX users and about 85 windows users. It's been my experience that the majority of the problems I deal with daily are not OS specific. Most of the problems seem to be between the chair and the keyboard Dave "jim t.p. ryan"

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread Karl J. Runge
> Subject: Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters) On Fri, 05 May 2000, "jim t.p. ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please let's not turn this into the typical MS bashing Linux group. I > like Linux, it is a powerful, somewhat stable OS. But compared to >

Re: Let's torture and kill...

2000-05-05 Thread Bob Bell
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 07:17:37PM -0400, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: > Did anybody actually get this thing ? I must've received about half a dozen copies here at work, and this is a UNIX shop! I'm assuming (hoping) they mostly came from other parts of Compaq. -- Bob BellCompaq

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread John Chambers
Derek Martin writes: Sure. But if people Stopped using MS Office for creating e-mail, and just wrote it in a text editor or the e-mail client's editor, this would not be a problem. Sure, but this would imply that they were concerned with making sure that recipients

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread Robert L Krawitz
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 16:14:02 -0400 From: Jerry Callen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The solution, as I see it, is strong authentication and encryption. If I am SURE (thanks to a digital signature) that an attachment comes from someone I trust, then I can open the document in confidence. B

I guess it's a "Nevermind" now - sorry

2000-05-05 Thread Maria
She has just talked to someone specializing in that area.. so I guess she doesn't want any help or rather, "can't talk about it anymore" So no ruffling of feathers I guess Thanks anyhow guys Maria PS. I believe I may have to trademark my nickname, just so I don't get harassed for h

Re: "The right hand writes to the list" Help -- Rather Off topic

2000-05-05 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
I'm guessing this is plain intimidation... I can recommend a very nice/smart/wired lawyer friend in Norwood for her to talk to... he might, for a very small fee, be able to write a letter that will demonstrate enough committment to get them to back down... his name: Andy Kisseloff his number:

Re: Gratuitous Microsoft Bashing (was: let's torture and kill viruswriters)

2000-05-05 Thread jim t.p. ryan
Please let's not turn this into the typical MS bashing Linux group. I like Linux, it is a powerful, somewhat stable OS. But compared to Windows, it has virtually no applications. When, and I hope it does, have as many disparate (sp??) vendors writing to it, and as many users using it as Wind

ISSalert: Internet Security Systems Security Alert (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread Niall Kavanagh
Thought it might be nice to have some "semi-official" information on the subject. ;) -- Niall Kavanagh, [EMAIL PROTECTED] News, articles, and resources for web professionals and developers: http://www.kst.com -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:35:35 -0400 From: [EMA

"The right hand writes to the list" Help -- Rather Off topic

2000-05-05 Thread Maria
Hi guys and gals. It's me, Maria! I need help. or rather a friend does. Recently (yesterday) a friend of mine received a notice from iVillage saying that her parenting website is too confusingly similar to their parenting section website. and therefore, they want her site down. I am won

Re: Today's reason not to run Windows

2000-05-05 Thread Bill Sconce
Tom Rauschenbach wrote: > > Did anybody actually get this thing ? I got 14 warnings about it, the NPR news > is full of it. I don't have it and I want to see it! As it happens, yes. I received three copies of it. I don't run Outlook, of course. BUT... At work (my client's site, which i

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread Dave Cherkus
Michael O'Donnell writes: |> I love the sentiment, but here's hoping we're all careful |> not to describe Linux as "immune" since to do so only |> does us all a disservice. Linux is NOT immune; it |> just seems that way (for now) because we're much more |> secure from the start, we (so far) haven

Last nights meeting

2000-05-05 Thread Jerry Kubeck
We had a great turnout for last nights Install/Playfest. 17 people, 5 laptops, 5 desktops and more goodies than people. Bruce McCulley of McCulley Associates donated a boxed copy of Corel 2.2 for a door prize and we gave away an AlphaProcessor backpack as well as the assorted disks, etc. Everyo

RE: Today's reason not to run Windows

2000-05-05 Thread Jerry Eckert
That appears to be a user comment (from someone who didn't even bother to supply a fake name, much less a real one). To me, that is at best anecdotal evidence. The story associated with this message board makes no mention of any effect of the message being displayed in a preview pane; it does ex

Re: let's torture and kill virus writers

2000-05-05 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>I think I saw something like this on a list once: >A good virus scanner - $50 >A corporate virus scanner - $200 >A free system immune to viruses - priceless I love the sentiment, but here's hoping we're all careful not to describe Linux as "immune" since to do so only does us all a disservice

[OFF-TOPIC] More MS Flames (was: let's torture and kill virus writers)

2000-05-05 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Mike Bilow wrote: > First, and WAY off topic, Outlook Express (and all of IE5) should be > installed in a corporate environment from a local server. Right. And everyone should run MS Small Business Server, and use MS Exchange for mail, and MS Proxy for Internet, and the onl

RE: Today's reason not to run Windows

2000-05-05 Thread Marc Evans
See http://www.zdnet.com/tlkbck/comment/22/0,7056,88759-421762,00.html to support my assertions. - Marc On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jerry Eckert wrote: > Marc Evans wrote: > > > >I beg to differ, but this is hadly the forum. The VB file attached is > >immediately executed upon retrieval from the POP b