Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Peter Cavender
I still like the idea of collecting a reward if I find an exploit, rather than paying to find out about them. You. Will. Not. Have. To. Pay. To. Find. Out. About. An. Exploit. Can we make it any more clear for you, or are you being obtuse on purpose? I know I don't have

Re: Continuing tar ball problem...

2001-02-23 Thread Jeffry Smith
Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20 said: I don't make this stuff up - don't need to - see the URL yourselves !! They really need to read the RPM manual, and get rid of those antique 8 floppies... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/daily/detail/0,1136,375113666,00.html Pie-sized tar

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Tony Lambiris
wait wait wait... redhat is the multi-million dollar company. they shouldve tested 7.0 to mars and back before selling it to consumers. when i buy a linux distribution off the shelf, or from the company, I dont expect them to use the most bleeding edge technology (which is what red hat does in

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Rich Payne
Every system has bugs, yes... even Red Hat!!! LOL! I was never asserting Red Hat is perfect! :-) I'll just say to this that I still use RH, but I'm having serious second thoughts after the latest release disaster. With the internal and external beta testing they do, they

Locking down BIND on RHL 6.2

2001-02-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
Hello list, In an attempt to provide some *useful* information about DNS server security to the list, ;-), here is the procedure I use to lock down ISC BIND's named on a Red Hat Linux 6.2 system. I am reporting on RHL 6.2 because that is what I use, but a lot of this information applies

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Well, now, hold on there a minute, Ben There is something that has been completely missed here. Everyone keeps harping on the Security holes big enough to drive a truck through in BIND. Everyone keeps talking about how fixing BIND would require a complete rewrite, and no one wants to do that.

Continuing tar ball problem...

2001-02-23 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
I don't make this stuff up - don't need to - see the URL yourselves !! They really need to read the RPM manual, and get rid of those antique 8 floppies... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/daily/detail/0,1136,375113666,00.html Pie-sized tar balls wash up on Hollywood beach By SUSANNAH

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Thomas Charron wrote: Erm, I didn't invite anything.. That was my first reply on that entire thread.. Oops, sorry, I got a mite confused between messages and OPs there. Conversation as its been heard..

Re: djbdns and why BIND sucks flame

2001-02-23 Thread Peter Cavender
Well, now, hold on there a minute, Ben If you can hold him back, he is frothing at the bit... There is something that has been completely missed here. Everyone keeps harping on the Security holes big enough to drive a truck through in BIND. Well, yes it IS a problem, being that it

Re: djbdns and why BIND sucks flame

2001-02-23 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Peter Cavender wrote: It sounds like some supposed Linux supporters, rather than being flag carriers for new and better software, are merely geriatric Unix sysadmins who want to ride on the coattails of the movement, and refuse to aquaint themselves with new software,

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Peter Cavender
If we dismissed every service that has a history of problems, then we would have nothing. Let's see... We have to get rid of DHCP, NIS, NFS, etc., and we can't forget about the OS's. There goes Linux, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, OSF, yadda yadda yadda.. It is not the _services_ that have the

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Brian Chabot
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: A beautiful link, and totally relevant - courtesy of Microsoft Product Support Services. Not exactly http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp Translated we get: Login as: www.microsoft.com Password: item=q209354 for the

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Jeffry Smith
Peter Cavender said: For all the talk on this list about people being concerned about system security, it baffles me why, when it comes to things like BIND, people justify continuing to use it, and attack alternatives without fully evaluating them. It reminds me more and more of listening to

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Thomas Charron wrote: Erm, I didn't invite anything.. That was my first reply on that entire thread.. Oops, sorry, I got a mite confused between messages and OPs there. Conversation as its been heard.. Conversation as its been heard, here: Your preferred

Microsoft Intelligence - an oxymoron?

2001-02-23 Thread Cole Tuininga
Thought y'all might get a kick out of this link: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp -- I'm going to graduate on time, no matter how long it takes. - Senior basketball player at the University of Pittsburgh Cole Tuininga Network Admin Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL

Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
You have to check this out! A beautiful link, and totally relevant - courtesy of Microsoft Product Support Services. http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: (which is what red hat does in _all_ their releases... another reason why I use debian, you have a stable branch, and an unstable branch) There is plenty of pre-release quality software in the stable distribution of Debian. For example, Mozilla M14

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:38 EST Paul Lussier said: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp Strange, this message was sent this morning at 9:35 and it's just showing up now at 16:52:34. Something wrong with the list, or is the server just that busy? --

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Tony Lambiris
Benjamin Scott wrote: There is no excuse for Red Hat shipping a product that will crash after 3 weeks no matter what system its running on. Red Hat 7.0 does appear to have been subjected to rather substandard QA procedures. On the other hand, I think you might be just a little

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Karl J. Runge
A URL can be: http://user:passwd@host:port/ So it is www.hwnd.net, right? Karl On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to check this out! A beautiful link, and totally relevant - courtesy of Microsoft Product Support Services.

Re: Bill Sconce

2001-02-23 Thread Jerry Kubeck
Dana, Glad you are doing better as well as Bill. I called him yesterday but he was sleeping. His wife Janet said he was doing lots better and could be released today or tomorrow. Bill will be home several weeks recuperating. I am sure he would appreciate emails to keep him company. His address

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Jeffry Smith
Kenneth E. Lussier said: Well, now, hold on there a minute, Ben There is something that has been completely missed here. Everyone keeps harping on the Security holes big enough to drive a truck through in BIND. Everyone keeps talking about how fixing BIND would require a complete rewrite,

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Thomas Charron
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: djbdns On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Thomas Charron wrote: I do not like software that tells me to go jump in a lake. *AHEM* Then perhaps you should start scratching your itch, so to say. Hey, you are the one who said that said I should go

Re: djbdns and why BIND sucks flame

2001-02-23 Thread Jeffry Smith
Um, some of us aren't debating that BIND has had insecurities in the past. I do argue that it has a process to find holes. My disagreements are with djb's philosophy and mistatements and attitude. Yes, the code is well-written (I did download it). I just don't like people telling me how

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Mike McKernan
Ken == Ken D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:47:59 -0500 (EST) Ken On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: Ken Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:38 EST Paul Lussier said: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
I shouldn't even be getting my hands dirty in this... On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: I always use Red Hat's text-mode install. I hate the GUI. But some people could not get by without it. Choice is the operative factor here. Believe it Don't forget that in the first

Fwd: minor linux request

2001-02-23 Thread Jerry Kubeck
I received this this morning. Thought maybe some of you would enjoy a good short story. Jerry From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 09:16:12 2001 From: Ratzan, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: minor linux request Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:14:41

Boston Linux Installfest IX Saturday, March 3, 2001

2001-02-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
Where: Mount Ida College, 777 Dedham St., Newton Center, Ma 02459 Great Room of the Student Center adjacent to the guard shack. When: Saturday, March 3, 2001 9:00AM to 5:00PM What you need to bring: Your computer, monitor, power strips and your Linux distribution. cost:It's

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-23 Thread Derek Atkins
FTR, this works with StarOffice 5.1a as well. No WONDER SO is so damn huge! -derek Jeffry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those using Star Office 5.2 - not only did they copy the bugs/bloat/bad help (OK, this qualifies as bloat). Try it. jeff

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:05:39 EST Brian Chabot said: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: A beautiful link, and totally relevant - courtesy of Microsoft Product Support Services. Not exactly http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp

Re: Go quickly, this is real

2001-02-23 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:38 EST Paul Lussier said: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp Firstly, this looks to be more of a bug in MS' site than anything else -- no matter what you put in after the @, it

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-23 Thread Rich Payne
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: wait wait wait... redhat is the multi-million dollar company. they shouldve tested 7.0 to mars and back before selling it to consumers. when i buy a linux distribution off the shelf, or from the company, I dont expect them to use the most bleeding

Re: djbdns

2001-02-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Derek Martin wrote: Gee, Derek, that's the first time I've ever seen you speechless. ;-) Hehe... No, I was going to comment, but decided that it simply isn't worth the effort, since the whole thread is nothing but one giant