On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Paul Lussier said:
pll> From: Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pll> To: David Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pll> Cc: Greg Kettmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GNHLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pll> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:19:46 -0400
pll> Subject: Re: My Firewall Breach. A concern.
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Jerry Kubeck wrote:
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> Fourth, it isn't necessarily the Lugs responsibility to raise alarms to the
> general public, but those who distribute and sell, except as our own desire
> to take Linux to the masses no matter the topic.
I agree 100% with this. We, the Linux community, do a lot of compla
I only want to add one thing here and it is in response to what is close to
the bottom of this message. It has to do with we don't do enough.
I have been monitoring Lugs across the country for the past 18 months or
so. Most small states have maybe one Lug and of course the bigger states
might h
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:56:10 EDT
David Roberts said:
>Paul - I agree, but not totally.
>
>Everyone keeps saying it is the user's responsibility to harden their
>system and I agree, up to a point. We (the Linux community in general)
>have also been a little too enthusiastic abou
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:23:26 EDT
"Tilly, Lawrence" said:
>Ok...WAY out of context, but I think THAT would make for an interesting
>bumper sticker
>
>"Lock up your salami, dammit!"
I knew that statement would get some attention, any one .sig'ed me
yet ;)
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Seeya,
Paul
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In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:57:35 EDT
Ed Lawson said:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:11:40 Paul Lussier wrote:
>>
>> I'm having a problem getting to it, and keep getting, of all things,
>> a MS IIS error page!
>
>Wrong URL perhaps? Works here.
Hmmm, okay, it's back up :)
Never mind!
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, mike ledoux wrote:
>> can and you keep on top of it. If you don't want your salami to be
>> used to bludgeon someone to death, make sure people with the
>> malicious intnet can't at it. So lock up your salami dammit :)
>
> Salami wants to be free.
Open Source salami?
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:13:43 CDT
"Mansur, Warren" said:
>If a thief breaks into my car, and then uses it to run over and kill 10
>people, am I responsible for the death of those 10 people? The police
>may at first suspect me because my car was used, but as soon as they
>find ou
Paul Lussier wrote:
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> Also keep in mind that you *can* in fact do an SMB scan on *your*
> segment of the M1 net and still access shares. Filtering at the port
> level requires going through a router, and everyone on your "street"
> or segment hasn't gone through a router yet :)
> --
Yes and n
OK, I'm not just "an innocent victim" and I'm responsible for
putting my high performance sports car on the net but M1/AT&T owns the
highway
and they certainly have capabilities and facilities that far outstrip what I
have on my Linux Firewall.
This, once again, raises the analogy between the h
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:11:40 Paul Lussier wrote:
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> I'm having a problem getting to it, and keep getting, of all things,
> a MS IIS error page!
Wrong URL perhaps? Works here.
Ed Lawson
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To begin, don't think I'm happy offering any defense to M1. In fact, I am
VERY anti-M1. Every couple months they alter my basic ($8.50) channel line
up, pulling another "real" channel out of the mix and giving me more
shopping/religious/ethnic channels. I have no say in this change. It is
bein
If you leave your car unlocked and the thief can take the car three times,
I'm sure the police and/or your insurance company will want
to have a chat with you.
-Mark
Mansur, Warren wrote:
> I suppose everyone has a different opinion on this, so I figure I might
> as well share mine :-)
>
> If
"Mansur, Warren" wrote:
> I suppose everyone has a different opinion on this, so I figure I might
> as well share mine :-)
>
> If a thief breaks into my car, and then uses it to run over and kill 10
> people, am I responsible for the death of those 10 people? The police
> may at first suspect me
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Greg Kettmann wrote:
> Yes, I accept my share of the responsibility but I really, REALLY think
> that M1/AT&T, who have the resources, should be doing something to try to
> actually go after the crackers.
What do you suggest they do?
What makes you think they have the re
Folks: First, I really appreciate all the feedback. Most has been excellent.
About the only area that I fundamentally disagree with is sort of the
combination "it's my fault / M1 - AT&T is doing OK". Yes, I accept my share
of the responsibility but I really, REALLY think that M1/AT&T, who have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
> > fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
> > for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
> > It would be an equivalent to
Hey, I'm in. Just give me some warning and I'll cancel all business trips.
Hey, I'll even be happy to talk about what NOT to do :-)
Mark Komarinski wrote:
> Another vote. I can demonstrate Coyote Linux (single floppy Linux
> firewall) and maybe bring along my SMC Barricade box for demo as well
I can attest first hand that this is NOT the case. My wife and I each have
Win laptops that are work issued that we use through VPN software to connect
into our businesses over cable. Mine has firewall software installed. Hers
does not. She was trying to arrange one through her place of busine
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> I can demonstrate Coyote Linux (single floppy Linux firewall) ...
This I would be more interested in. I can get a dedicated SOHO firewall at
Staples. Finding the time to check out something like Coyote is harder. :-)
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Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTEC
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Additionally, Media One (and other ISPs) take steps to protect the hordes of
> >unknowing Windoze users they provide services to. They often configure their
> >routers and firewalls to drop all traffic on ports 137-139, effectiv
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
> > fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
> > for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
> > It would be an equivalent t
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:17:15 EDT
Benjamin Scott said:
> Additionally, Media One (and other ISPs) take steps to protect the hordes of
>unknowing Windoze users they provide services to. They often configure their
>routers and firewalls to drop all traffic on ports 137-139, effe
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Greg Kettmann wrote:
> Not that I didn't stir up a hornet's nest the first time, but...
Awww, come-on, it's fun! ;-)
> This whole thing has left me with a very bad taste in my mouth.
Break-ins usually do. I've dealt with a fair number of security compromises,
and they
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
> fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
> for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
> It would be an equivalent to running something like the Linux Route
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm just not seeing this problem in the Windows space and this is making
> it sound like running Linux on the Internet is a very risky proposition
> and certainly a poor choice compared to Windows.
>
What this means is, contrary to the FUD,
***Linux is easier to us
From: Kenneth E. Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Firewall Breach. A concern.
>Whoa there, nelly. You can do an SMB mount and mount the C:\
>drive, copy a binary over, then use the remote registry administration
>tools so that every time the machine boots up it executes the bina
Ed, are there a couple websites you would recommend for someone to get a
good introduction to mixing Ham & Linux? During my time as an Airborne
Communicator in the AF I developed a strong interest in radio communication
& theory but since I've been out I haven't had any time to indulge in that.
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