Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:31:39 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 12:10pm, Tom Buskey wrote: >> Ummm, yahoo does lists for free & provides a web archive, etc. Granted, >> there'd be less control & ads inserted. Well, maybe there'd be more >> control. > > I, pe

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 12:10pm, Tom Buskey wrote: > Ummm, yahoo does lists for free & provides a web archive, etc. Granted, > there'd be less control & ads inserted. Well, maybe there'd be more > control. I, personally, would consider that a step in the wrong direction. :) When I say we

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread Tom Buskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we >> using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the >> complaints here! > > Because the configuration of the curr

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread Mark Gelinas
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 11:26:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:17:23 EDT > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > >On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 4:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Can someone explain exactly what M-F-T is *supposed* to do. > > > > *sigh* Did t

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:52am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not questioning that. I know full well that there are politcal > reasons for the way things are. Oh. Sorry. :-/ > I'm asking if List-* headers are even a possibility in Majordomo, which we > happen to be using because of what

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:48:08 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we >> using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the >> complain

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we > using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the > complaints here! Because the configuration of the current mailing list is limited by

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:17:23 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 4:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Can someone explain exactly what M-F-T is *supposed* to do. > > *sigh* Did this forum become write-only when I wasn't looking? :) Hey, if we actually *READ*

Re: firewall eth0 weirdness

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 10:06am, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > - I am using pump and this isn't the first time I've heard >its reliability questioned, so I'll give dhcpcd a try. It isn't so much that ISC dhcpcd is better or worse then pump; it is just that it happens to get along with some DH

Re: firewall eth0 weirdness

2002-07-12 Thread Michael O'Donnell
In response to several points raised: - Yes, all my NAT'd connections probably would have been killed as a result of the ifdown/ifup sequence, but they were dead already. - When my firewall's eth0 connection became operational again, it had the same IP addr as before. - I am using

Re: firewall eth0 weirdness

2002-07-12 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:07:31PM -0400, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > I figured that maybe I just lost my DHCP lease or > something, but the outage lasted almost 15 minutes before > I (apparently) "fixed" it by issuing those ifdown/ifup > commands, so I wonder about the DHCP theory... > My old

Re: firewall eth0 weirdness

2002-07-12 Thread Dan Coutu
Well, this may put a hiccup in the theory that the cable company's DHCP is messed up... I've seen exactly the same thing happen on my two RedHat systems (one is 7.3 and one is 7.2). I've not found any pattern that would help to identify what is really going on though. I do not use a cable mode

Re: firewall eth0 weirdness

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 7:56pm, Ken Ambrose wrote: > I see it frequently enough that I've taken to putting "pump" into cron. Try switching from "pump" to ISC "dhcpcd". A lot of people have reported trying one, having troubles, switching to the other, and that solves their problem. It appears