Re: More debian apt-get help

2003-03-10 Thread pll
In a message dated: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:54:21 EST Jefferson Kirkland said: Ok, I am looking to install Gnome after finally getting Xwindows installed. I did the following: apt-get update apt-cache search 'gnome' list Try: $ apt-cache pkgnames task | grep gnome and $ apt-cache

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:06:35 EST David Andrew - Sun MDE said: If everyone top-posted, the thread would be intact, and it would save a lot of wasted time searching through the message to get the part added with the new e-mail. It would also make every e-mail incredibly huge,

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread David Andrew - Sun MDE
Paul, I am not advocating keeping entire message history, unless absolutlely needed for context. And I specifically addressed interleaving, with an added 1-liner as an intro. I can't see how that would add more than a few bytes to notes. On the other hand, your message from gnhlug-discuss

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:45:00 EST David Andrew - Sun MDE said: Paul, I am not advocating keeping entire message history, unless absolutlely needed for context. Okay, then I mis-understood the point you were trying to make. And I specifically addressed interleaving, with an

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless, AFAIK, all lists managed by MailMan add the following lines to the header: X-BeenThere: X-Mailman-Version: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: I really like mailing lists that use MailMan and I think

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:58:19 EST Erik Price said: If you've ever been a list manager and inundated with requests from subscribers to 'please unsubscribe me from this list', then you'd quickly come to appreciate these footers. It's funny b/c I see these happen all the

Re: More debian apt-get help

2003-03-10 Thread pll
In a message dated: 23 Feb 2003 15:08:39 EST Kenneth E. Lussier said: the easiest way of doing this would be to use Ximian-Gnome. Have they fixed this? The last time I tried using Ximian-Gnome on Debian, if completely fscked up my system. I had to manually remove all the ximian packages and

Re: Top posting

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny b/c I see these happen all the time on lists that /do/ offer the footer. I do too :) And, as has oft been stated before, and will no doubt be stated again, technology is not the solution for what is a human behavioral

Re: SCO sues IBM over Linux

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
My guess is that IBM is first on the hit list? Perhaps the deepest pockets. Would this case (as they see it) also apply to SUN who supports Unix/Linux as well. Anyone else on deck? I see this as a half-hearted attempt to blackmail IBM to settle out of court, and I think that SCO underestimates IBM

Re: SCO sues IBM over Linux

2003-03-10 Thread David Long
This is not a strategy any business leader would willingly follow and funding a huge lawsuit against IBM could cost them tens of millions per year. It could also be a situation like the OSF faced many years ago when Sun was secretly funding some company (name escapes me) to sue the OSF

Re: SCO sues IBM over Linux

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:07:00AM -0500, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: My guess is that IBM is first on the hit list? Perhaps the deepest pockets. Would this case (as they see it) also apply to SUN who supports Unix/Linux as well. Anyone else on deck? I see this as a half-hearted attempt to

Re: SCO sues IBM over Linux

2003-03-10 Thread bscott
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, at 10:07am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that IBM is first on the hit list? Perhaps the deepest pockets. Would this case (as they see it) also apply to SUN who supports Unix/Linux as well. Anyone else on deck? HP... Red Hat... SuSE... Mandrake... Microsoft...

slow initial ssl sessions

2003-03-10 Thread Derek Doucette
I have set up a virtual host on my server to access my mail. It is a Redhat 7.3 box with the following: squirrelmail 1.2.10 apache 1.3.2 mod_ssl 2.8.12 openssl 0.9.6b php 4.3 Whenever I log into squirrelmail, the initial page takes forever to load, up to a minute or more. Once this page has

Re: slow initial ssl sessions

2003-03-10 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 11:22, Derek Doucette wrote: Whenever I log into squirrelmail, the initial page takes forever to load, up to a minute or more. [snip] Sounds to me like there's a chance that your apache server is trying to do a reverse lookup on the ip your web browser is coming from.

Re: slow initial ssl sessions

2003-03-10 Thread Derek Doucette
Cole Tuininga said: On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 11:22, Derek Doucette wrote: Whenever I log into squirrelmail, the initial page takes forever to load, up to a minute or more. [snip] Sounds to me like there's a chance that your apache server is trying to do a reverse ... This is just a guess

SuSE is Reevaluating Our Relationship with SCO Group

2003-03-10 Thread Bayard Coolidge
More collateral damage from the SCO legal action against IBM. I happen to be a SuSE customer, so I was rather interested in this: http://linux.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=817 This article was referenced by Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/10/212241.shtml?tid=143tid=106 Bayard

Mass. Dept. of Revenue Considers Linux

2003-03-10 Thread Jefferson Kirkland
I don't know how many people read slashdot, but this is a story that hits close to home. Good news for Linux!!! http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/10/2156202mode=threadtid=106 Regards, Jeff Kirkland ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL

Re: SCO sues IBM over Linux

2003-03-10 Thread Tom Buskey
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 12:55, David Long wrote: It could also be a situation like the OSF faced many years ago when Sun was secretly funding some company (name escapes me) to sue the OSF (can't remember the complaint either). When the lawyers demanded that the secret source of funding be