Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >So, is it safe to plug a TVSS into a UPS? The only sure answer I can give > is "I don't know". Given that it's trivial to get an RPT without TVSS, I > would say you're safest going that route. That is what I saidjust use a common extension cord with a couple o

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread L.B. MCCULLEY
Ben, thanks for the most informative response in this thread to date (and there have been some other good ones!). I really appreciate your sharing the fruits of your research. The explanation about UL 1449 FUD was very useful! And the explanation of direct lightening strike consequences was, w

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
This is a surprisingly complicated topic. Power Taps -- First, the easy one: The technical term for the "octopus" that Bill Sconce was describing is "relocatable power tap" or "RPT". This just takes one plug and turns it into multiple plugs. No protection of any kind is implied

Re: cdrecord problems with CD-RW on FC3

2005-06-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Jun 15 at 9:25am, Larry Cook wrote: Any one else experience similar problems? I'm wondering if it's the media, my hardware, or something with FC3. In addition to things others have mentioned... I can say that FC3 is quite capable of burning CDs on at least some hardware without proble

Re: HD partitions?

2005-06-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Jun 15 at 6:25pm, Peter wrote: I am new to Linux, and by new I mean that I have yet to install it, but that will be happening shortly. Anyway, I was hoping to get suggestions on partition sizes. I have a 200GB HD. This system will be small, maybe three or four home users, and may or may no

Re: HD partitions?

2005-06-15 Thread Kevin D. Clark
"Peter" writes: > I hope that I am posting this in the right place. If not, please forgive > me. > I am new to Linux, and by new I mean that I have yet to install it, but > that will be happening shortly. Anyway, I was hoping to get suggestions > on partition sizes. I have a 200GB HD. This system

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/15/05, Bob Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:13:02AM -0400, Larry Cook wrote: ... > >I'd also like to put the router and DSL modem on there. Any reason I > >shouldn't use a power-strip to add these two devices to the last remaining > >outlet? ... > Finally, I'm not

Re: MerriLUG meeting *tomorrow* night.

2005-06-15 Thread Ted Roche
I'll do my best to make it in time for dinner. I haven't been before. How are these for directions? http://www.blu.org/directions/illuminata.html On Jun 15, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: [Argh. Second try, this time from someone the list will recognize. Please excuse any duplicat

HD partitions?

2005-06-15 Thread Peter
I hope that I am posting this in the right place. If not, please forgive me. I am new to Linux, and by new I mean that I have yet to install it, but that will be happening shortly. Anyway, I was hoping to get suggestions on partition sizes. I have a 200GB HD. This system will be small, maybe three

Speakers for BLU for July and August

2005-06-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
Currently the BLU is looking for speakers for the July 20th and August 17th meetings. We have a couple of proposals for half the time, so if anyone has a shorter subject they would like to present, they could share the meeting with David Kramer who will be talking about Jedit. -- Jerry Feldma

MerriLUG meeting *tomorrow* night.

2005-06-15 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
[Argh. Second try, this time from someone the list will recognize. Please excuse any duplicates.] Okay, folks. We -had- had a speaker lined up for tomorrow, but he slipped through the infamous cracks of schedule conflictdom. So, no go. Therefore, I suggest we do the dinner thing at 6:00, a

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Since surge protectors are usually to protect the device from spikes in the electrical current, and since the UPS usually does this anyway, why use a powerstrip that has a surge protector? Just use a non-protected one. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) e

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:20:53 -0400 Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 15, 2005, at 12:17, Bill Sconce wrote: > > > (I don't use MOVs at all, actually.) > > Well don't just leave us in suspense - are you forgoing surge > suppression or do you have superior technology? Oh, right

Mandriva announces acquisition of main Lycoris assets

2005-06-15 Thread Dan Jenkins
http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2556 Mandriva, formerly known as Mandrakesoft, to purchase several assets from Lycoris. Lycoris' founder and CEO Joseph Cheek is joining Mandriva. Mandrake and Connectiva merged a few months back, and now the combined company is acquirin

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Michael ODonnell
MOV = (Metal Oxide Varistor) A discrete electronic component that diverts excessive voltage to the ground and/or neutral lines. http://www.answers.com/topic/varistor ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.g

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Interestingly, all the Leviton whole-house surge arrestors I can find on their site are MOV-based. (I was considering one after you mentioned it..seems like a good idea.) Do they have any that are not MOV-based? --Drew On 6/15/05, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, I don't use MOV-based

RE: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Brian
FWIW, I don't use MOV-based devices as any sort of surge-protector either. I'm well aware of their limitations. I've always had Leviton whole-house surge suppressors on my houses. They install right at the electrical panel and have a far greater chance of being effective than a power-strip solut

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 15, 2005, at 12:17, Bill Sconce wrote: (I don't use MOVs at all, actually.) Well don't just leave us in suspense - are you forgoing surge suppression or do you have superior technology? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Hom

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
I don't have a link handy, but the further responses seem to be more descriptive anyway. I would think still that the two small devices wouldn't be a problem, since they'd be putting so little stress on the surge protector's circuit, but I'm not as familiar with AC and power electronics to say

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:39:15 -0400 "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting, I've never heard of that problem before. Most surge protectors > are really only a couple of MOV's anyway. Do you have a link or something > handy that has more detail? There are actually two discussions g

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Bob Bell
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:13:02AM -0400, Larry Cook wrote: I've got the APC 500 ES (which by the way is on sale at Staple for $15 off and a $15 rebate for a final cost of $29.99), but it only has three battery backup outlets. I'm using one for the computer and one for the monitor. I'd also l

Re: cdrecord problems with CD-RW on FC3

2005-06-15 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 09:25 am, Larry Cook wrote: > I'm having intermittent problems with some CD-RW media... I had to replace both a TEAC W512S whose problems started just as you describe. Unlike most electronic parts which fail catastrophically, the CD-ROM lasers can deteriorate slowl

Re: cdrecord problems with CD-RW on FC3

2005-06-15 Thread Dan Jenkins
Larry Cook wrote: I'm having intermittent problems with some CD-RW media on FC3. I'm using cdrecord to blank it first and then write to it. Most of the time I don't have a problem, but occasionally the blanking (both fast and all) gets a media error and occasionally there is an error fixating

RE: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Brian
Interesting, I've never heard of that problem before. Most surge protectors are really only a couple of MOV's anyway. Do you have a link or something handy that has more detail? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Neil Joseph Sche

Re: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
It's considered bad practice to do that because surge protectors are bad at evenly distributing power to devices when you mix devices with larger power draws and smaller ones. Realistically, a modem and router aren't going to cause any problems like that, so you should be fine. -N On Wednesday

cdrecord problems with CD-RW on FC3

2005-06-15 Thread Larry Cook
I'm having intermittent problems with some CD-RW media on FC3. I'm using cdrecord to blank it first and then write to it. Most of the time I don't have a problem, but occasionally the blanking (both fast and all) gets a media error and occasionally there is an error fixating. Ejecting and ret

RE: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Brian
Shouldn't be a problem at all, just don't exceed the VA (wattage) rating of your UPS. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Cook > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:13 AM > To: GNHLUG > Subject: Is it okay to plug a power-strip into

Is it okay to plug a power-strip into a UPS?

2005-06-15 Thread Larry Cook
I've got the APC 500 ES (which by the way is on sale at Staple for $15 off and a $15 rebate for a final cost of $29.99), but it only has three battery backup outlets. I'm using one for the computer and one for the monitor. I'd also like to put the router and DSL modem on there. Any reason I s